US set to clash with China at UN over bid to blacklist JeM's Masood Azhar

[Path-Finder]

There is already a thread running on the same topic.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-s...klist-jems-masood-azhar.610560/#post-11320854



Well if the Yank's want India as the biggest Non NATO strategic partner as they prefer to say time and again, they will have to earn that I guess.

Haha I guess its now become key and keyhole important. Sorry as important as a key is to the keyhole vice verse.

Why America or UK or France never even bother to bring forward a resolution to declare Umar Khalid Khurasni a Terrorist ? head of JuA who claimed responsibility of Sehwan mazar Attack ? and many others like it .. ?

The yanks have blocked resolutions against afghani based terrorists!!! This is enough to show the two faced serpents they are.

 

[Tom M]

Haha I guess its now become key and keyhole important. Sorry as important as a key is to the keyhole vice verse.

Well there are 15 members in UNSC out of which 5 have veto as we all know the P5. Again this matter is before UNSC for almost 10 years now and out of the 15 all 14 are in favour of the request made in 1267 brought by France lately. And China's technical hold is nothing more than a joke among other nations. Its really a shame that they couldnt examine and study the matter for long 10 years (a usually fast China when it comes to other things LOL)

Now let the Chinese explain in detail the importance of the key or keyhole, whatever it maybe. But UNSC expect a detailed explanation if they prefer to use VETO this time. That's all.

 

[Path-Finder]

Well there are 15 members in UNSC out of which 5 have veto as we all know the P5. Again this matter is before UNSC for almost 10 years now and out of the 15 all 14 are in favour of the request made in 1267 brought by France lately. And China's technical hold is nothing more than a joke among other nations. Its really a shame that they couldnt examine and study the matter for long 10 years (a usually fast China when it comes to other things LOL)

Now let the Chinese explain in detail the importance of the key or keyhole, whatever it maybe. But UNSC expect a detailed explanation if they prefer to use VETO this time. That's all.

look, the members of taliban were declared global halabaloo and put in guantanamo. what is the status now its been revoked and being revoked for others members because of their interest. So all this technical jargon of UN has least value than taking an open air dump.

So this notion that xyz is backing your claim gives you a new reason to strut, good for you. But its only mind games at best. These europeans with veto always look for their interests what has masood azhar got to them when they have blocked/veto other terrorists that Pakistan has put forward. The key and keyhole need one other.

 

[Tom M]

look, the members of taliban were declared global halabaloo and put in guantanamo. what is the status now its been revoked and being revoked for others members because of their interest. So all this technical jargon of UN has least value than taking an open air dump.

So this notion that xyz is backing your claim gives you a new reason to strut, good for you. But its only mind games at best. These europeans with veto always look for their interests what has masood azhar got to them when they have blocked/veto other terrorists that Pakistan has put forward. The key and keyhole need one other.

Well the matter has least to do with Azhar or Pakistan anymore. It has more to do with China and China's clout in UN in general and UNSC in particular. Just wait and see what China is gonna do (of course it will be a VETO). But wanna know what they will say in public for first time as far as the matter is concerned.

Regarding the terrorists that Pakistan had put forward and Vetoed away by Europeans, there is simply one phrase, "you can't have the cake and eat it at the same time" hope you got the point.

 

[Path-Finder]

Well the matter has least to do with Azhar or Pakistan anymore. It has more to do with China and China's clout in UN in general and UNSC in particular. Just wait and see what China is gonna do (of course it will be a VETO). But wanna know what they will say in public for first time as far as the matter is concerned.

Regarding the terrorists that Pakistan had put forward and Vetoed away by Europeans, there is simply one phrase, "you can't have the cake and eat it at the same time" hope you got the point.

yeah again, "you can't have the cake and eat it at the same time" your own bold quote is a door that swings both ways as its application is universal!

 

[khail007]

US is very very slow learner ... 17 years ago the declared terrorists those were in jails now sitting in front of them on negotiating table.
Now they are after Azhar ... US and India both want this world to serve their wishes and instead they are getting @$$ beating.

 

[Tom M]

yeah again, "you can't have the cake and eat it at the same time" your own bold quote is a door that swings both ways as its application is universal!

Indeed. And FYI, I didn't understood a single word from the link you provided since it seem to be Punjab right ??

But again track record of nations does matter. And you very well know the track records of our respective nations as far as terrorism is concerned. So let's wait and see which way the door swings more. Why simply speculate.

 

[HAIDER]

I think Pakistan need to get rid of these liabilities. Obviously ,Indian lobby is pressurizing US govt to prove Pakistan is terrorist state any cost. Specially, after humiliating border skirmish ...Now Indian members are not giving any breathing space in FATF regulations.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

How can India be regional super power when it needs help from other countries to get its sh1t done? They should be like, okay I'm going in for the k1ll instead of like papa US or mama France look what pakistan is doing to us plez help...

 

[Meengla]

Let's be clear on one thing. America has no self-security or even moral interests in Masood Azhar. He's just one more of the militant groups spread over the world, such as in Ukraine or Philippines or Nigeria. For all America would care, Mr. Azhar could kill ten thousand Indians and no sweat. But the intense focus on Azhar by the US/UK/France shows a determined effort to neutralize China by damaging one of China's strongest allies. And the by product of that will be commercial interests and selling more weapons to India. The Chinese are paying attention to all this. They are a quiet nation but they are not blind or deaf. And neither are Russians.

The hoopla about 'terrorism' is just that--a hoopla.

 

[Arsalan 345]

what is our government? our diplomacy? united states is now a strategic partner of india and it's supporting india everywhere.what is our government doing?

 

[YeBeWarned]

The yanks have blocked resolutions against afghani based terrorists!!! This is enough to show the two faced serpents they are.

and it will come to bite them just like those white Supremacists crazies .

 

[Meengla]

Well there are 15 members in UNSC out of which 5 have veto as we all know the P5. Again this matter is before UNSC for almost 10 years now and out of the 15 all 14 are in favour of the request made in 1267 brought by France lately. And China's technical hold is nothing more than a joke among other nations.

UNSC is indeed a joke, especially the Veto power.
But... just like America Vetoes anything against Israel when all other UNSC members are for the Resolutions, China does the same. Also, in the UN General Assembly, the votes are overwhelmingly against Israel. You can bet that the UNGA will not be against Pakistan similarly. Pakistan will win the high moral ground in UNGA.

PS. I bet the strategic thinkers in America must be cursing allowing China the Veto power in UNSC. It was good to have China against USSR but it was not thought that so soon China would become a major power challenging America.

 

[Chhatrapati]

China should VETO such a move and explain why they support this terrorist.

Works for us just fine.

 

[Imran Khan]

paksitan should do something its not worth man . we are using our ally in UNGA for a bunch of guys ? not good at all we are misusing veto power .