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US senators introduce bill to block F-35 delivery to Turkey

This is a posturing move, and Israeli interests do not have much to do with it. Also, the pastor does not have much to do with it either.

The US is actively leveraging their military industrial complex and weapon exports to discourage everyone from trading with Russia. They are using the law that Trump signed last August for this. For reference:

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Some U.S. allies caught in crossfire of sanctions on Russian arms


Under a law that U.S. President Donald Trump signed in August, any country trading with Russia’s defence and intelligence sectors will face sanctions.

The law is designed to punish Russian President Vladimir Putin for the 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine, involvement in the Syrian civil war and meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

But American allies who buy weapons and equipment from Russia, the world’s second-largest arms exporter, could suffer as well.

The highest-profile example is India, which wants to buy five S-400 long-range surface-to-air missile systems that the country’s military sees as a game changer. The systems are touted as being able to counter the ballistic missiles and stealth aircraft that China is developing, while overwhelming the capabilities of Pakistan, India’s other main adversary.

The deal, which Putin and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi struck as part of an inter-government agreement in 2016, has run headlong into the U.S. sanctions law, two officials in Delhi said.

Indonesia and Vietnam also buy weapons from Russia while being regional partners of the United States. Jakarta closed a $1.14 billion pact for Sukhoi fighters recently, while Vietnam is seeking more jet fighter-bombers from Russia.

And with both Almaz-Antey Air and Space Defense Corporation, which makes the S-400, and Rosoboronexport, which negotiates Russian export deals, listed as under sanction, those deals have become trickier.

“The optics of a major arms purchase from Russia looks quite ‘iffy’ from the point of view of Western capitals, especially at a time when Russia-West relations are at an all-time low and India seeks strategic convergence with the West, including with the U.S.” said Abhijnan Rej, a defence strategy expert at Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi think tank.

The U.S.-led airstrikes this month against facilities of the Syrian government, an ally of Russia, has further aggravated tensions between the superpowers.

A Russian source close to the Indian S-400 deal said “a lot will depend on the confidence and sanity of our Indian partners.”

WIDER IMPACT
The effects of the U.S. sanctions law could be more sweeping than intended, said Cara Abercrombie, a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Vietnam, whose air force flies Russian-made Su-30 fighters and uses the S-300 air defence system, wants to continue modernising its inventory.

Vietnamese military scholar Carl Thayer said he believed Moscow was still pushing Hanoi to invest in state-of-the-art S-400 missile defences as part of its long-term military plans.

“I think it is clear that Russia is still pressing Vietnam for big deals,” Thayer said, noting that the two countries already have had reciprocal visits by defence ministers this year.

But with the United States working hard to promote sales of American military hardware, and sanctions against Russia’s exporting agencies, Vietnam’s plans could prove overly costly.

Indonesia, meanwhile, said the delivery of the first couple of Sukhoi Su-35 jets out of a total of 11 is on track for this year. Officials said that so far they did not anticipate any changes to the deal with the Russians.

Indonesian defence officials declined to describe what, if anything, they might do to tackle the fallout of the sanctions imposed on Russian arms sales.

A THORNY PROBLEM
Indian Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale and Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra held discussions with U.S. officials in Washington last month to try to find a solution, a second Indian official said.

The issue is crucial to the Indian military, because without Russian parts, supplies and maintenance help, “our ships won’t sail, our planes won’t fly,” the official said. “We can hardly be the regional security provider that America wants us to be at this rate.”

One way to avoid secondary sanctions would be if the U.S. determines that India is reducing its dependence on Russian arms, said Atman Trivedi, managing director of Hills & Company, a Washington-based firm that advises on international trade and investment.

Russian hardware represented 62 percent of the country’s total weapons imports during the past five years, compared with 79 percent in 2008-2012, the Stockholm Peace Research Institute said in a report last month.

The U.S. administration could also declare that imposing sanctions on India, a major defence partner, would hurt U.S. national security interests. That would allow a waiver permitting India to do business with Russia.

The United States has emerged as India’s No. 2 weapons supplier, closing $15 billion worth of deals over the last decade. Now Lockheed Martin and Boeing are leading the race to provide India with a fleet of new fighter-bombers, one of the world’s largest open tenders.

“The intent of the legislation was never to disrupt U.S.-India defence relations, which Congress has repeatedly recognised in law as a strategic priority to the U.S.,” said Benjamin Schwartz, aerospace and defence head at United States India Business Council.

Abercrombie of Carnegie added that if Congress grants waivers to India, it may also need to do so for other countries such as Vietnam and Indonesia.

“The bottom line: India warrants an exemption from these secondary sanctions, as does any country with which the U.S. is forging new and strategically important defence relations,” she said.


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Also, it needs to be said that there really is no easy way for Turkey to be pushed out of the F-35 program. As a major NATO ally and a level 1 participant into the program Turkey would have to do something extremely stupid (like leaving NATO) to even be considered an export liability.

Turkey does not tend to do stupid things, as far as its foreign policy is concerned..
 
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Jewish Lobby activated -
Really? Look at the two senators introducing the bill: Lankford isn't Jewish (nor does he have many Jewish constituents) and Shaheen is a big supporter of the Iranian nuclear "deal".
 
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You can not block share partner, if they would do something like that. That will cost a lot of, not only they will be missing billions of order but they will pay billions of fine...
 
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Those are the last moaning of US since TF-X project passed into a new stage.
Aselsan and TAI signed a deal to develop optics, electronic warfare and AESA radars of TF-X !
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They can't block Turkey from this JSF Project.

1) Turkish companies build critical parts of the F-35.
2) Turkey is responible for ENGINE overhaulins.
3) Turkey is a NATO Member, Incirlik Airbase is important for NATO, and Kurecik radar base for Europes saftey.
4) Turkey is ready to purchase 100+ F35s worth $10 billion.

But if they dumb enough to block us because of Greek and Armenian Lobbies, it would be another step out of NATO.
Also Lockheed Martin can't afford it to lose their Turkish partners and money because of some whiny fa.gots.

That BEAUTY/BEAST is our hope.
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I think plans are in place to transfer Turkish F35's to Saudia. Copy paste job of Pressler Ammendments. Turkey should open a ruskie naval base on western borders.

One more thing, time to annex some Arabistan.
 
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Would be very stupid of the US if it did this. But America is known for its stupidity.
 
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I think plans are in place to transfer Turkish F35's to Saudia. Copy paste job of Pressler Ammendments. Turkey should open a ruskie naval base on western borders.

One more thing, time to annex some Arabistan.

Thats one hell of a claim. Care to explain bro.
 
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I think plans are in place to transfer Turkish F35's to Saudia. Copy paste job of Pressler Ammendments. Turkey should open a ruskie naval base on western borders.

One more thing, time to annex some Arabistan.

Talk about talking out of the arse, have you no knowledge of geopolitics.

Russian naval base in Turkey? transferring Turkish jets to Saudis? I’ll wait for pigs to fly.

Syriarabistan is a good start.

Apparently the 500 millionz Arabs can stop us lol
 
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Apparently the 500 millionz Arabs can stop us lol

The only reason why the whole Arab world is NOT under Turkish rule is because of the westerners.

As for 500 million Arabs LOL. Not even 1 billion Arabs could stop us. And we're nowhere near as strong as our ancestors once were. :lol:
 
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Precedence my friend. Same game different players and timeline. Let's see if Turkish F35's make it to Turkish squadrons.

And for the other guy who'd like to see pigs fly, lol. Open your eyes pezevenk.

Thats one hell of a claim. Care to explain bro.
 
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Precedence my friend. Same game different players and timeline. Let's see if Turkish F35's make it to Turkish squadrons.

And for the other guy who'd like to see pigs fly, lol. Open your eyes pezevenk

Ha siktir lan, when Turkey gets its first delivery I want to see you post this crap again about no F35s and Russian basses lol
 
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