US seeks india's help against Pakistan

[pakdefender]

NEW DELHI: US defence chief Leon Panetta acknowledged Wednesday that India and the United States had "often deep" differences with Pakistan but said Washington and New Delhi needed to work to overcome them.

"Pakistan is a complicated relationship for both of our countries but one that we must work to improve," he was to say in a speech in New Delhi where he is meeting the country"s leaders to discuss China and Afghanistan.

"India and the United States will need to continue to engage Pakistan, overcoming our respective " and often deep " differences with Pakistan to make all of South Asia peaceful and prosperous," he added, according to prepared comments released ahead of the address.

Panetta welcomed steps taken by India and Pakistan to normalise their trade relations, a new focus by the neighbours who are hoping greater commerce can pull them together.

Pakistan has promised to let more Indian imports in by year-end and they opened a second trading post in April along their heavily militarised border.

India has said it is ready to end a ban on investment from Pakistan and the countries are planning to allow multiple-entry business visas to spur exchanges " a key demand by company executives.

Nuclear-armed India and Pakistan have fought three wars since independence in 1947, while US-Pakistan relations have often been strained by Washington"s efforts to stabilise Afghanistan.

Panetta is pressing Pakistan to open its border to Nato supply convoys, which Islamabad has blocked since a US air strike in November killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

The United States has had to rely since then on a more costly, cumbersome route to the north through Central Asia. AFP

US, India must overcome Pakistan problems: Panetta | 1 Pakistan News


US is pinning its hopes on india to take on Pakistan , the recent statments about asking india to take a more active role in afghanistan also point in this direction.

 

[VelocuR]

Russia seek Pakistan, US seek India.

From Russia with love

KARACHI - Recognising the important role being played by Pakistan in the contemporary world, Russia Wednesday offered assistance in the face of oil and gas supplies to the energy-scarce South Asian country. On the stratego-diplomatic front, Moscow confirmed that President Putin would visit Pakistan “soon”, and that his role in ensuring regional stability, security and economic integration, particularly in the settlement of Afghanistan issue, must not be underestimated.
The Russians also offered help to Pakistan in modernising the ailing Pakistan Steel Mills (PSM) project inaugurated by then USSR some three decades back.
“We all know that Pakistan is experiencing energy deficit. But let us not forget that Russia is the world's biggest energy supplier,” said Russian Consul General Andrey V Demidov while talking to media on the occasion of the Russia Day.
“Our assistance in the field of energy can be rendered in the form of oil and gas supplies,” he added.
Urging the two sides to take their bilateral relations beyond the PSM cooperation, Demidov said his country was ready to help Pakistan in the modernisation of PSM that, he said, required upgradation and new machinery for enhanced production.
“We are prepared to come and modernise the project,” the CG said adding “The machinery built in the Soviet Union, although old, is still working without any serious technical problem”.
The Russian official said Russia’s main approach toward the issue of bilateral relations with Pakistan was that the ties should be mutually beneficial. “The basic factor that enables us to seek closer ties is the absence of a single political problem that divides us,” he said.
He said Russia recognised the important role of Pakistan in modern world and believed that Pakistan was one of the leading states in Islamic world and the only Muslim nation possessing nuclear weapons. Pakistan was playing a vital role in the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, SAARC and others, he said.
“We do not underestimate the role of Pakistan in ensuring regional stability and security in the settlement of Afghan issue in promoting regional economic integration,” the consul said.
He said political leaders of the two countries have been engaged on regular basis. During 2011 presidents of Russia and Pakistan have met six times at the sidelines of different international forums. Both sides emphasise the importance of developing bilateral economic cooperation and trade.
“The fields of energy, steel production, telecommunications, space technologies, oil and gas were mentioned as leading areas of cooperation,” he said.
Recalling his country’s October 2011 emergency assistance to flood victims in Sindh, Demidov said last May we witnessed a very important visit to Russia of President Asif Zardari followed in November 2011 by “successful visits” to Moscow and Saint-Petersburg of two Pakistani delegations – a delegation headed by the chief minister of Sindh, and a delegation led by the president of the federation of Pakistani chambers of commerce and industry.
About the “landmark” visit to Moscow of Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar and her talks with her counterpart Sergey Lavrov, the consul general said the two ministers had admitted that contacts between Russia and Pakistan were getting “more and more active”.
“There are good prospects for bilateral cooperation between Russia and Pakistan in realising big transnational energy project, connecting Central Asia and South Asia,” he said.
Hopeful of early materialisation of the agreements reached during those visits, the Russian official said Prime Minister Gilani during the telephone conversation with President Vladimir Putin after the latter's victory in the Presidential Elections in March (2012) had invited him to visit Pakistan. “The invitation was accepted. We expect to see our new President in Pakistan soon,” he said.
Dwelling on Russia’s economic situation, Demidov said his was the only G8 country without a budget deficit in 2011. “In fact we even have a small surplus. As of April 1, 2012 Russia's international reserves amounted to more than $ 513.9 billion,” he said.

 

[Secur]

International diplomacy , thou art a heartless *****

 

[Omar1984]

How things have changed in these past 30 years.

1982:

Pakistan and U.S.
India and Soviet Union




2012:
Pakistan and Russia
India and U.S.





Can't wait for 2042

 

[Kaniska]

2042:
Pakistan and China
India and Sh*t

No you are wrong..

2012 ~ 2042:
Pakistan and China
India and Inidia Only...

 

[surya kiran]

How things have changed in these past 30 years.

1982:

Pakistan and U.S.
India and Soviet Union

2012:
Pakistan and Russia
India and U.S.
Can't wait for 2042

Correction. Pure diplomacy not military.

2012
Pakistan, SA, Iran and China
India and NATO, Iran, BRICS, GCC, ASEAN, Israel, Africa.

Militarily it was, is and always will be

Pakistan
India

 

[Baby Leone]

lets see when emricans cannt do anything wht thier slaves can do..

 

[MilSpec]

Russia is building a steel plant and promising to install a pipeline and members here are already ready to jump in their lap, Do you guys even have the slightest idea of Indo-Russia Bilateral relations.
As far as India is concerned India's Foreign Policy secures Indian interests First. .........India First, Always

Doesn't matter what USA wants, India has and will always put Indian interests first. Indo china relations will remain the same, they will remain India's largest trading partners and Russia will remain the largest military contributor and strategic ally irrespective of what other idiots wish for.

Indo-US relations will augment the acknowledgement of the rise of India's power in the region.

 

[tarrar]

I have been telling this for quiet sometime that US is trying to make India a strong country in the region in both Military power & economic power, India is blocking all the waters of Pakistan & it was all planned by US & Israel to destroy Pakistan slowly.

Mian Bastard sharif is still blind & he is trusting Indians for everything he has skipped the true friend of Pakistan who is ready to help Pakistan any day. It is like I have said before & I will say it again these corrupt Politicians are a threat to Pakistan & they need to be wiped out of Pakistan so that Pakistan can think properly of the threats that lies across both sides of the borders.

Judging by what’s happening these days, how US is changing its colors daily & is accusing Pakistan for everything now. I think a silent war has been launched against Pakistan & most importantly Pakistan is getting staged for a big event.

Pakistan needs to free itself from the current situation that Pakistan is in thanks to these corrupt politicians they need to be wiped out this is a very important step for Pakistan this needs to be done. Pakistan must be ready to face all enemies US, Afghanis, Israel, EU & India. Pakistan security has been breached thanks to these corrupt politicians & Pakistan has been threatened openly.

Russia is building a steel plant and promising to install a pipeline and members here are already ready to jump in their lap, Do you guys even have the slightest idea of Indo-Russia Bilateral relations.
As far as India is concerned India's Foreign Policy secures Indian interests First. .........India First, Always

Doesn't matter what USA wants, India has and will always put Indian interests first. Indo china relations will remain the same, they will remain India's largest trading partners and Russia will remain the largest military contributor and strategic ally irrespective of what other idiots wish for.

Indo-US relations will augment the acknowledgement of the rise of India's power in the region.

The only thing India knows good is how to lift balls of US & other countries & serve their so called jabroni friends with Bollywood.

No you are wrong..

2012 ~ 2042:
Pakistan and China
India and Inidia Only...

Lozzzzzz. It's like I said the onlything India knows well is to lift the balls of US very nicely & serve them with Bollywood.

 

[VelocuR]

2012
Pakistan, SA, Iran and China
India and NATO, Iran, BRICS, GCC, ASEAN, Israel, Africa.

You are poor knowledge. BRICS economy not military? Which Russia side ? Iran both side? GCC? South Arabia? ASEAN, Africa????

 

[tarrar]

Panetta officially admits that the US is at war in Pakistan.

Spencer Ackerman | Wired.com

“We are fighting a war in the FATA, we are fighting a war against terrorism,” said Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on Wednesday, referring to the tribal areas of Pakistan that the U.S. has spent three years bombing heavily.

Was that so hard to admit?

For years, it has been. Neither the Bush nor Obama administration has been forthright about the starkest fact of the recent war on terrorism: most of it takes place in western Pakistan. As CIA director and now Pentagon chief, Panetta has been one of the key architects of the accelerated drone-and-commando war the U.S. wages there in what amounts to an open secret.

In 2009, the critical year in that acceleration, Danger Room boss Noah Shachtman started pressing the Obama administration for disclosure about a war the U.S. waged in all but name.

It may be late, but at least now it’s happened. The day after the U.S. claimed that its latest drone strike in tribal Pakistan killed al-Qaida’s second in command, Abu Yahya al-Libi, Panetta used the W-word to angrily dismiss the Pakistani government’s complaints about the U.S. infringing on its sovereignty.

“We have made very clear that we are going to continue to defend ourselves,” Panetta said in New Dehli.

The war has remained undeclared for two reasons. First, it’s awkward and potentially destabilizing to say Pakistan is a U.S. ally but the U.S. has to fight a war against terrorists on its soil. Second, it’s politically perilous to ask a war-weary public to get used to fighting what’s effectively a third war in a decade, even if this one relies far more on remote controlled robots than ground troops. That’s suited the Pakistani government: it’s given the U.S. tacit support for the drone strikes and enough cynical public denunciation of them to ward off popular upheaval. It’s unknown how many civilians die in the drone strikes, but it’s undeniable — except, sometimes, by the White House — that some do.

But that’s gone out the window as U.S.-Pakistani relations have deteriorated over the past year. Pakistan kicked the U.S. out of an airbase used for the drone strikes and shut down a critical overland resupply route for the Afghanistan war. Panetta appears to be at his wits’ end. His stark admission that the U.S. is at war in Pakistan followed a Tuesday tongue bath for Pakistan’s arch-rival, India.

In case you’re wondering, there aren’t many legal implications or obligations prompted by Panetta’s admission. The 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force, the legal wellspring of the war on terrorism, clearly authorizes attacking the perpetrator organization of 9/11 unbounded by geographic limits. Besides that, the short document is vague enough to fly a Predator through. There is little upside and much risk for any politician arguing it’s time to end the 9/11 Era. To paraphrase Oliver Wendell Holmes, the life of the war has not been law; it has been politics.

It’s hard to imagine the reverberations Panetta’s comment will have amongst Pakistanis: polls indicate most don’t realize there’s a drone war going on at all. Americans are understandably preoccupied with domestic economic anxiety. The U.S. government, in other words, might have obscured its shadow war for nothing.

 

[Screambowl]

I am sure IF the US had offered such kind of collaboration to Pakistan to destabilize India, you guys have accepted warmly Once Again, which we have rejected!! So you should thank us Instead of making fun.

India's interest is to build Afghanistan bring infrastructure and education to Afghanistan and trade with it. Nothing beyond that is our Motive. India believes in peaceful co-existence.

 

[MilSpec]

The only thing India knows good is how to lift balls of US & other countries & serve their so called jabroni friends with Bollywood.

I would love to answer you back in exact language and tell you exactly what pakistan has been doing for last 4 decades wrt US and genitalia metaphor, but I wont stoop to you level, Mods will let you go, but will serve me an infraction within minutes.

If you have an ounce of brain, look into the foreign policy of India and point me out when have we served others interests, i can keep counting pakistani foriegn policy blunders one after the other

 

[vsdoc]

How things have changed in these past 30 years.

1982:

Pakistan and U.S.
India and Soviet Union




2012:
Pakistan and Russia
India and U.S.

What is it that Pakistan is getting from Russia?

What is India getting from Russia?

The waving crescent and sickle pompoms will have to wait. India is not going anywhere.

You on the other hand are the jilted lover on the rebound.

 

[khanboy007]

india has to be political here because, india will remain a neighbor to pakistan for ever and to maintain peace and stability in the region it has to think for the benifits of both, even if it thinks of destabilizing pakistan or teasing it, it can certainly lead to a disaster in the region for both the countries. it (india) must then opt for a political path to keep out of this and be with pakistan instead, just to maintain peace for the people of both the countries.