US says it doesn’t support Balochistan’s independence

[Perpendicular]

The one who sold your country high tech defense equipment.

True. But so does rest of the world.
By selling us and buying from them, both countries might influence their foreign policy to some extent to certain aspects but can't define it. It is in India's interest only that Pakistan remains intact and functional enough. And we have been successful at that so far. Actually India is not doing suspicious activities in Balochistan to the extent it is blamed for, which hardly means that it is not capable of.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How does US support make a difference ?

US did not support Indian action in East Pakistan that led to creation of Bangladesh.

Pretty retarded to compare balochistan with east Pakistan..


It's impossible for India..... Stroke it more you will force Pakistan to fuk and pay you in kind..

Make enemy out of Iran...

Double whammy.

Your moaning and support for terrorism is a nuisance at best... Better worry about IOK or 7 sister states .. Shyt is already hitting the fan .. Killing
Hundreds and imposing curfew won't do you any good nor would moaning and getting embarrassed by counter reactions.

They shared it with Dawn news come on it's the site you guys trust the most in Pakistan so what happened now?
@WaLeEdK2


Wait just now you said it's a made up story? clear your mind man why so confused?
@WaLeEdK2 @Arsalan @Moonlight

They will change their father for benefits.

 

[ito]

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I forgot what the book was called, sorry.

That is not US government support. A comment by US senator won't count. If that is the case there are lot of US senators that support Balochistan independence.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/338079/...esolution-calling-for-independence-of-baloch/

 

[jha]

Hmmm...it's a start. People talking about Balochistan is a start.

 

[sbh02]

The difference between Balochistan and Kashmir:

According to the US:

a) Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan, and needs to be discussed between them.

(There is confusion on the Indian side, whether it is a bilateral issue between the two nations, or India's internal matter.

When Pakistan tried to bring in the UN/US into the Kashmir dispute, it said it was a bilateral issue with no third party involvement.

Now, it is saying it isn't a bilateral issue, but India's internal matter.)

b) Balochistan is the internal matter of Pakistan, unlike Kashmir, which is a bilateral issue.

 

[Genghis khan1]

 

[HAIDER]

True. But so does rest of the world.
By selling us and buying from them, both countries might influence their foreign policy to some extent to certain aspects but can't define it. It is in India's interest only that Pakistan remains intact and functional enough. And we have been successful at that so far. Actually India is not doing suspicious activities in Balochistan to the extent it is blamed for, which hardly means that it is not capable of.

Right , Yadav found selling flowers in Baluchistan . Your monkey was a top rank officer not a some low rank hawaldar, sepai etc. Plus, US govt has right whenever they want they can unplug the part supply for these high tech planes.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Nor does US supports independence for Kashmir.

Robert Oukely (the US Ambassador in Pakistan when the Kashmir insurgency erupted in late 1989) believed that the initial popular uprising in Kashmir was “primarily spontaneous” ...


On December 15, 1990 the US Ambassador to India Frank Weisner reiterated that Kashmir was a dispute between India and Pakistan and maintained that his country favoured a dialogue between the two countries for resolving the dispute.


In May 1992, the US senator, Dan Steven, also supported Kashmiris right of self determination.


In the same month, the Chairman of House Committee and of US Congress Mr. Dante Fascell, and the Chairman of the sub-committee on Human Rights sent joint letters to the US Secretary of State James Baker and the Indian Ambassador in the United States condemning India’s violation of Human Rights. They complained, “we can only conclude that torture committed by government authorities is taking place in India on regular and systematic basis”

A strong US policy statement on Kashmir appeared in October 1993, when the US Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs, Robin Raphel made a statement that:

"We view Kashmir as a disputed territory and that means we do not recognize that instrument of accession as meaning that Kashmir is forever more an integral part of India."


And recently:

Kashmir is a disputed territory: US

 

[Spectre]

A strong US policy statement on Kashmir appeared in October 1993, when the US Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs, Robin Raphel made a statement that:

"We view Kashmir as a disputed territory and that means we do not recognize that instrument of accession as meaning that Kashmir is forever more an integral part of India."

Same Robin Raphael which was charged by FBI for getting too close to Pakistanis? Unfortunately charges had to be dropped as evidence was found for mere mishandling of classified information - if charged it would have connotations on Clintons (whom she was close with) as they had the similar issue with emails..

Still one thing is sure - She was tainted and would never work for US Gov again.

And do you have any statements by US which says they favor independence or merger of Kashmir with Pakistan?

 

[cloud4000]

people here had us believe how super powers will run with the BLA cause & reprimand Pakistan, Well .............**** you fuckers.

Who ever said India was seeking US approval for what it was doing in Balochistan? Again this is the fantasy of some Pakistanis on PDF, who are eager to make connections where none are to be found.

A strong US policy statement on Kashmir appeared in October 1993, when the US Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs, Robin Raphel made a statement that:

"We view Kashmir as a disputed territory and that means we do not recognize that instrument of accession as meaning that Kashmir is forever more an integral part of India."

This is a different way of saying the same thing: Yes, US agrees Kashmir is disputed territory. US has also stated that Kashmir be settled bilaterally.

 

[M. Sarmad]

And do you have any statements by US which says they favor independence or merger of Kashmir with Pakistan?

There are a lot of statements (even Resolutions) that talk about Kashmiris' right to self-determination. You want me to quote them here ?

 

[Spectre]

There are a lot of statements (even Resolutions) that talk about Kashmiris' right to self-determination. You want me to quote them here ?

Just show me a recent statement by US Govt spokesperson saying that they support either merger of Kashmir with Pakistan or independent Kashmir.

No deflections pls.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Just show me a recent statement by US Govt spokesperson saying that they support either merger of Kashmir with Pakistan or independent Kashmir.

No deflections pls.

Why would the US say that they support merger of Kashmir with Pakistan (or India for that matter) ?

The right to self determination is a universally recognized principle. And everyone (Except Indians) supports it.

 

[Spectre]

Why would the US say that they support merger of Kashmir with Pakistan (or India for that matter) ?

The right to self determination is a universally recognized principle. And everyone (Except Indians) supports it.

Then show a recent statement (last 15 years or so) by US Govt Spokesperson (state dept spokesperson or press secretary) saying that they support Kashmir's right to self determination

 

[M. Sarmad]

Then show a recent statement (last 15 years or so) by US Govt Spokesperson (state dept spokesperson or press secretary) saying that they support Kashmir's right to self determination

As made clear by the US spokespersons on several occasions, The US position on Kashmir has remain unchanged. The US recognizes Kashmir as a dispute that has to be resolved by India and Pakistan.

And Can you show us any statement (last 60 years or so) by US Govt. Spokesperson saying that they do NOT support Kashmiris' right to self determination ?