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US retreat from Afghanistan is a geopolitical masterstroke


LOL you lost and we won. End of discussion.
nope, 9·11 was the real masterstroke that bought China lots of time. we should thank bin Laden and recognize him a true hero

Get ready Chinese friend. The Afghan and Central Asian riches are waiting for us.
 
Masterstroke.

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By: Striver44

Nobody ever realized that by letting Taliban ruled over Afghanistan once more, The US not only lifted itself out of the burden of endless counterinsurgency, it also potentially brings a huge geopolitical impact to the two most important US rivals in the region namely Iran and PRC.

Since the US started it's hasty retrogade from Afghanistan 1st of May this year, the Taliban has thus far captured 32 districts while besieging many provinicial capital such as Lashkar Gah, while cutting the main roads from Kabul to Kandahar. Thus if it continue n this trajectory, it will be (in my best estimate) a year or two before the Taliban once again ruled over Kabul.


By having an puritanical Islamic militants ruling over Afghanistan once more, the relative safety provided by the US +NATO presence in the decade since 2001 would all be over and the geopolitical reality were once more shifting, most notably countries that will be most affected by this is the PRC, Pakistan and Iran.

The Taliban like most islamist militant group despised China, due to the latter mass incarcerations of muslims in Xinjiang, by having Kabul administration replaced by the Talibs, the PRC which lays close . This could in fact affect their BRI projects.
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and Beijing realized this and isn't cool either with the prospect.

you could sense this from their mouthpiece Xinhua, who do some sort of influence operation to keep the US stay in AFghanistan.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/24/c_137696107.htm

so does global times

and by their statements from their MoFA,
"At present, the unilateral withdrawal of US and NATO troops at the critical stage of the peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan has brought uncertainties to Afghanistan's domestic situation and regional security landscape. As neighbors,"


also from Hua Chunying:

It needs to be pointed out that the recent abrupt US announcement of complete withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan has led to a succession of explosive attacks throughout the country, worsening the security situation and threatening peace and stability as well as people’s life and safety. China calls on foreign troops in Afghanistan to take into full account the security of people in the country and the region, pull out in a responsible manner and avoid inflicting more turmoil and suffering on the Afghan people.


another plus to having a unstable Afghanistan, is that China for once more need's to ramp up it's land force and increase it's scpe of internal security in Xinjiang, this could increase the cost and burden as China is also facing the Quad alliance currently being propped up by the Biden admin.

China already spent more on internal defense than their external defense, especially since Xi Jinping tightens it's grip on power



On the contrary, now the US could harness all of it's power and resurces against China on a multi theater front, the most notable is the Pacific. The US compared to China, didn't have any significant ideological or military fore right his fence. The US could better use the money and resource originally for it'expense in Afghanistan into building and enhancing alliance in particular the QUAD and keeping ASEAN from ever getting very close to China.

another thing to consider is that once more the US Navy is given priority over the US Army, as the battlefields have now changed from the rough desert and mountains of Afghanistan to the open ocean of the Pacific. This will prioritize long range firepower like hypersonic and ballistic missile, something that China have an advantage over the US until very recently as well as ships and long range aviation.

another potential country that could be affected by the Taliban return to power is none other than Iran, not that Iran shares hundreds of kilometres of border with the Taliban, as history suggest , Taliban which is a Sunni militant group had a natural hatred of the Shiite country next door. Taliban doesn't have a friendly history with both Shiite inside and outside the country.


also the the likelihood of the Hazaras (an ethnic Shiite) living in Afghanistan getting persecuted by the Taliban could potentially forced Iran to create some sort of Afghan Hezbollah, possibly creating enmity between Iran and the Sunni Pashtun dominated Taliban. Iran could found itself entrenched in a two front conflict with Israel+GCC in the West and Taliban in the East.
@Dalit
that's a brain stroke to you...
 
By: Striver44

Nobody ever realized that by letting Taliban ruled over Afghanistan once more, The US not only lifted itself out of the burden of endless counterinsurgency, it also potentially brings a huge geopolitical impact to the two most important US rivals in the region namely Iran and PRC.

Since the US started it's hasty retrogade from Afghanistan 1st of May this year, the Taliban has thus far captured 32 districts while besieging many provinicial capital such as Lashkar Gah, while cutting the main roads from Kabul to Kandahar. Thus if it continue n this trajectory, it will be (in my best estimate) a year or two before the Taliban once again ruled over Kabul.


By having an puritanical Islamic militants ruling over Afghanistan once more, the relative safety provided by the US +NATO presence in the decade since 2001 would all be over and the geopolitical reality were once more shifting, most notably countries that will be most affected by this is the PRC, Pakistan and Iran.

The Taliban like most islamist militant group despised China, due to the latter mass incarcerations of muslims in Xinjiang, by having Kabul administration replaced by the Talibs, the PRC which lays close . This could in fact affect their BRI projects.
o8uCjr__Fyl-T4_4Q-W4fEEk88TmqGvdX7XTmavKFv5sLqwdkNKKbHWXEYuLyJHM8uypE0dH2U8ajGT3rXVxhYHpudaELLIKPc3t-RTzo__mTl2yKhxM6w

and Beijing realized this and isn't cool either with the prospect.

you could sense this from their mouthpiece Xinhua, who do some sort of influence operation to keep the US stay in AFghanistan.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/24/c_137696107.htm

so does global times

and by their statements from their MoFA,
"At present, the unilateral withdrawal of US and NATO troops at the critical stage of the peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan has brought uncertainties to Afghanistan's domestic situation and regional security landscape. As neighbors,"


also from Hua Chunying:

It needs to be pointed out that the recent abrupt US announcement of complete withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan has led to a succession of explosive attacks throughout the country, worsening the security situation and threatening peace and stability as well as people’s life and safety. China calls on foreign troops in Afghanistan to take into full account the security of people in the country and the region, pull out in a responsible manner and avoid inflicting more turmoil and suffering on the Afghan people.


another plus to having a unstable Afghanistan, is that China for once more need's to ramp up it's land force and increase it's scpe of internal security in Xinjiang, this could increase the cost and burden as China is also facing the Quad alliance currently being propped up by the Biden admin.

China already spent more on internal defense than their external defense, especially since Xi Jinping tightens it's grip on power



On the contrary, now the US could harness all of it's power and resurces against China on a multi theater front, the most notable is the Pacific. The US compared to China, didn't have any significant ideological or military fore right his fence. The US could better use the money and resource originally for it'expense in Afghanistan into building and enhancing alliance in particular the QUAD and keeping ASEAN from ever getting very close to China.

another thing to consider is that once more the US Navy is given priority over the US Army, as the battlefields have now changed from the rough desert and mountains of Afghanistan to the open ocean of the Pacific. This will prioritize long range firepower like hypersonic and ballistic missile, something that China have an advantage over the US until very recently as well as ships and long range aviation.

another potential country that could be affected by the Taliban return to power is none other than Iran, not that Iran shares hundreds of kilometres of border with the Taliban, as history suggest , Taliban which is a Sunni militant group had a natural hatred of the Shiite country next door. Taliban doesn't have a friendly history with both Shiite inside and outside the country.


also the the likelihood of the Hazaras (an ethnic Shiite) living in Afghanistan getting persecuted by the Taliban could potentially forced Iran to create some sort of Afghan Hezbollah, possibly creating enmity between Iran and the Sunni Pashtun dominated Taliban. Iran could found itself entrenched in a two front conflict with Israel+GCC in the West and Taliban in the East.
@Dalit
US should have never invaded fully Afghanistan in the first place. Was a major strategic mistake and only led to useless economic/financial/military/manpower losses. It also helped bog down the country and allowed its rivals a good breathing space.
So its good the US is finally leaving. Let the country's neighbours also get involve and share the burden. China is already worried(for a good reason) since it borders their restive Xinjiang region and harbours their Uyghurs Islamic jihadists militants. Iran is equally worried, If anything the Taliban coming back to power doesn't bode to well for Iran who was the most anti Taliban country in the region and even the world prior to US invasion( reason they even cooperated with the US to topple the Taliban). Strange alliances in the middle east as always. The region is a geo political chess piece mess :lol:
 
US retreat from defeat in Afghanistan is a geopolitical masterstroke reality.
 
Taliban will win, US cleverly retreat, China anxious, there fix that for u
Are you retarded or something? After spending a trillion $ and thousands killed, you retreat and call it a masterstroke. Only an Indian would say that, apparently Covid handling by Modi was also a master stroke, it's to reduce population and to help firewood prices, genius..
 
By: Striver44

Nobody ever realized that by letting Taliban ruled over Afghanistan once more, The US not only lifted itself out of the burden of endless counterinsurgency, it also potentially brings a huge geopolitical impact to the two most important US rivals in the region namely Iran and PRC.

Since the US started it's hasty retrogade from Afghanistan 1st of May this year, the Taliban has thus far captured 32 districts while besieging many provinicial capital such as Lashkar Gah, while cutting the main roads from Kabul to Kandahar. Thus if it continue n this trajectory, it will be (in my best estimate) a year or two before the Taliban once again ruled over Kabul.


By having an puritanical Islamic militants ruling over Afghanistan once more, the relative safety provided by the US +NATO presence in the decade since 2001 would all be over and the geopolitical reality were once more shifting, most notably countries that will be most affected by this is the PRC, Pakistan and Iran.

The Taliban like most islamist militant group despised China, due to the latter mass incarcerations of muslims in Xinjiang, by having Kabul administration replaced by the Talibs, the PRC which lays close . This could in fact affect their BRI projects.
o8uCjr__Fyl-T4_4Q-W4fEEk88TmqGvdX7XTmavKFv5sLqwdkNKKbHWXEYuLyJHM8uypE0dH2U8ajGT3rXVxhYHpudaELLIKPc3t-RTzo__mTl2yKhxM6w

and Beijing realized this and isn't cool either with the prospect.

you could sense this from their mouthpiece Xinhua, who do some sort of influence operation to keep the US stay in AFghanistan.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/24/c_137696107.htm

so does global times

and by their statements from their MoFA,
"At present, the unilateral withdrawal of US and NATO troops at the critical stage of the peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan has brought uncertainties to Afghanistan's domestic situation and regional security landscape. As neighbors,"


also from Hua Chunying:

It needs to be pointed out that the recent abrupt US announcement of complete withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan has led to a succession of explosive attacks throughout the country, worsening the security situation and threatening peace and stability as well as people’s life and safety. China calls on foreign troops in Afghanistan to take into full account the security of people in the country and the region, pull out in a responsible manner and avoid inflicting more turmoil and suffering on the Afghan people.


another plus to having a unstable Afghanistan, is that China for once more need's to ramp up it's land force and increase it's scpe of internal security in Xinjiang, this could increase the cost and burden as China is also facing the Quad alliance currently being propped up by the Biden admin.

China already spent more on internal defense than their external defense, especially since Xi Jinping tightens it's grip on power



On the contrary, now the US could harness all of it's power and resurces against China on a multi theater front, the most notable is the Pacific. The US compared to China, didn't have any significant ideological or military fore right his fence. The US could better use the money and resource originally for it'expense in Afghanistan into building and enhancing alliance in particular the QUAD and keeping ASEAN from ever getting very close to China.

another thing to consider is that once more the US Navy is given priority over the US Army, as the battlefields have now changed from the rough desert and mountains of Afghanistan to the open ocean of the Pacific. This will prioritize long range firepower like hypersonic and ballistic missile, something that China have an advantage over the US until very recently as well as ships and long range aviation.

another potential country that could be affected by the Taliban return to power is none other than Iran, not that Iran shares hundreds of kilometres of border with the Taliban, as history suggest , Taliban which is a Sunni militant group had a natural hatred of the Shiite country next door. Taliban doesn't have a friendly history with both Shiite inside and outside the country.


also the the likelihood of the Hazaras (an ethnic Shiite) living in Afghanistan getting persecuted by the Taliban could potentially forced Iran to create some sort of Afghan Hezbollah, possibly creating enmity between Iran and the Sunni Pashtun dominated Taliban. Iran could found itself entrenched in a two front conflict with Israel+GCC in the West and Taliban in the East.
@Dalit







Credit were it's due. Even in the midst of a heavy defeat, indians can spin it in to a victory........... :lol:
 
It is humiliating defeat, nothing more nothing less. Like it was for USSR and British Empire in past centuries. Welcome to the club, Uncle Sam.
 
It is better late than never. They should not have been there in the first place.
 
Okay CIA cheerleader Andy.

ignore this chimpanzee

he's desperate to appease Taliban and is peddling circle jerk fantasies to create triangles

1 . the chinese dont like taliban , oh well

2. iran will create another IRGc, wow


typical banya a$$ wipe . he cant even reveal his true ID !
 
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