US recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital would be 'major catastrophe' - Turkey

[Beny Karachun]

Just because you are completely ignorant does not change the History

"Palestine" 2000 years ago referred to the Greek Philistines that the Jews literally exterminated, not some fake Arab Muslim national identity created in the 1900s. Jews were not "Palestinians"/Philistines, they were a mortal enemy of the Philistines.

The People's Alliance, the alliance structure in which Akp is a member, incorporated the New Welfare Party led by Erbakan. As a result of the negotiations on this agreement, the articles put forward by the YRP were accepted and now included in the election manifesto of the alliance. Regarding the issue of Quds, there is an article stating that 'maximum sensitivity will be shown to the red line issues regarding Quds'. I haven't checked the AKP's election manifesto, but there are definite statements and red lines on Quds, and TR led the convening of the UN a few years ago with this agenda.

On the other hand, in the foreign policy section of the election manifesto of the Nation alliance (Chp is leading party in it), the second largest alliance, on the Palestinian issue: "Turkiye will negotiate with all relevant parties to find a permanent solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict within the framework of UN resolutions and on the basis of two states, and Turkiye will play a role as a reliable facilitator on the Palestinian issue." In addition, Saadet Party, which is in the alliance, includes in its party program the statement 'The Israel must abide by UN resolutions, even force to comply when necessary. TR should play a more active role for the establishment of fair and indipendent Palestinian State', which is in line with other conservative parties.

In short, after the elections, we should not expect a major change in TR's state policies on issues where Israel is at the root of the problem.

No country besides Israel has a say on what happens or not in Jerusalem.

The People's Alliance, the alliance structure in which Akp is a member, incorporated the New Welfare Party led by Erbakan. As a result of the negotiations on this agreement, the articles put forward by the YRP were accepted and now included in the election manifesto of the alliance. Regarding the issue of Quds, there is an article stating that 'maximum sensitivity will be shown to the red line issues regarding Quds'. I haven't checked the AKP's election manifesto, but there are definite statements and red lines on Quds, and TR led the convening of the UN a few years ago with this agenda.

On the other hand, in the foreign policy section of the election manifesto of the Nation alliance (Chp is leading party in it), the second largest alliance, on the Palestinian issue: "Turkiye will negotiate with all relevant parties to find a permanent solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict within the framework of UN resolutions and on the basis of two states, and Turkiye will play a role as a reliable facilitator on the Palestinian issue." In addition, Saadet Party, which is in the alliance, includes in its party program the statement 'The Israel must abide by UN resolutions, even force to comply when necessary. TR should play a more active role for the establishment of fair and indipendent Palestinian State', which is in line with other conservative parties.

In short, after the elections, we should not expect a major change in TR's state policies on issues where Israel is at the root of the problem.

This is nothing but cheap way of attracting Islamic voters.

 

[Iñigo]

Beny Romanum

it is quite probable (G-d forbid) that this remake ("Our colonial proyect") of the old movie will end up (a hundred years from now) like the first version.

 

[khansaheeb]

"Palestine" 2000 years ago referred to the Greek Philistines that the Jews literally exterminated, not some fake Arab Muslim national identity created in the 1900s. Jews were not "Palestinians"/Philistines, they were a mortal enemy of the Philistines.


No country besides Israel has a say on what happens or not in Jerusalem.


This is nothing but cheap way of attracting Islamic voters.

You will get the mercy you show when the Muslim armies liberate Jerusalem again. Stop fabricating stuff , you are just descendants of Egyptians and don't you forget it, that is the bottom line of your history.

AL-AQSA PEDIA

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[dBSPL]

No country besides Israel has a say on what happens or not in Jerusalem.


This is nothing but cheap way of attracting Islamic voters.

This is one of the few issues where there is 90% consensus in the country, not just among conservatives (I am referring to the two-state solution within the framework of UN resolutions and the Quds issue). I am not talking about relations with Israel. Even though the topic is going in a different direction, I wanted to give this anecdote since the title of the thread and the first post are about this.

 

[Beny Karachun]

You will get the mercy you show when the Muslim armies liberate Jerusalem again. Stop fabricating stuff , you are just descendants of Egyptians and don't you forget it, that is the bottom line of your history.

AL-AQSA PEDIA

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Now we're descendants of Egyptians? Lmfao. Every day a new story.

We're waiting to kick your Muslim armies yet again.

 

[khansaheeb]

Now we're descendants of Egyptians? Lmfao. Every day a new story.

We're waiting to kick your Muslim armies yet again.

You are descendants of that renegade Pharo Akhenaton of Egypt as I have proved in my previous posts. Now be good little Egyptian and go back to Egypt.

 

[Iñigo]

No

"yhwꜣw in the land of the Shasu"

Shasu - Wikipedia

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"Yahveh" is an Arab divinity

Archaeological and literary tradition sources coincide with

Êxodo 3​

"1 Now Moses was looking after the flock of Jethro, his father-in-law, the priest of Midian: and he took the flock to the back of the waste land and came to Horeb, the mountain of G-d."

Midian - Wikipedia

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"Mount Sinai is in Arabia" (Saul/Paul, letter to galathian)

The song of Deborah (Judges 5):

“When you, Lord, went out from Seir,
when you marched from the land of Edom,
the earth shook, the heavens poured,
the clouds poured down water."


"Yahveh of Tayma" (Kuntillet Ajrud)

Kuntillet Ajrud - Wikipedia

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Tayma - Wikipedia

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And ... And ...

Amarna letters - Wikipedia

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[Iñigo]

Here there is a huge confusion between 5 History:

(1) "Our colonial proyect" (Jabotinsky)

(2) the Yiddish people, A people that the rabbis forged when they decided NOT to be a religion

(3) A religion that in Roman, Greek and Persian times spread like wildfire among women and that was in "all the nations of the world", i.e. the sum of the Persian world, the Greek world and the Roman world.

(4) An Aramean ruling class (= Jacob)

(5) Hebrews, which is the name given to tribes of Arabian and Canaanite goatherd tribes, who have in common the fact that they live outside the coercive and fiscal power of the Egyptian empire, are the "escapees, fugitives" that the scribes of the palaces call "outlaws". "Hebrews" = "escapees, fugitives, outlaws" seen from the Egiptian Empire

 

[Iñigo]

...

The hatred of the pig is the hatred of the slavery of the valley under the power of the tributary palaces of the Egyptian empire, as opposed to the freedom of the goat that roams the mountain and leads to the great free space: the desert.

 

[Iñigo]

Look

Tayma

"Yahveh of Tayma"

Benjamin of Tudela - Wikipedia

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[Iñigo]

When ...

... the Yehudim tired of Christian-Roman-Byzantines became Mohammedans, the step was very easy because their religious culture was neither sadducean Priestly judaism nor medieval Rabbinic judaism, but something very similar to primitive Islam.

 

[Iñigo]

...

At the end of the Late Antique period, the bulk of Judaism was made up of Persians and Berbers.

But at the end of the 19th century, 90% were the Yiddish people who in the past had triumphed in Poland-Lithuania by finding a place in the Totem Pole:

(A) Catholic aristocracy
(B) Yiddish people
(C) Christian peasantry

Until the Flood came, and then came the big mess.

Deluge (history) - Wikipedia

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And out of the flood, "Deluge", comes the settlement area

Pale of Settlement - Wikipedia

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[Iñigo]

And

And hence comes the animosity against Russia of the American grandchildren of the Yiddish people. For example the grandfather of the Secretary of State in Washington was from Kiev.

And, on the other hand, the Poles and Ukrainians who founded "our colonial project" in "the land of Canaan" want to get along with the Russian establishment to bomb Syria.

The rest is children's literature for Europeans, fantasies of Roman-Christian fools and Roman-Angloimperial 2.0 propaganda.

 

[Iñigo]

Shasu - Wikipedia

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To become a "Hebrew" means from the point of view of the palace scribes to become a "brigand".

Canaanite peasants "tired and burdened with debts" left and joined Arab tribes. This can be seen even in David's time. And when the Egyptian imperial power collapses in the land of Canaan then these tribes of Arab nomads - that is: the "Hebrews" - settle down.

Tabernacle - Wikipedia

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[Iñigo]

This Tradition

This Tradition is an anti-imperial tradition (with only one exception: the Persian Empire) and there is nothing strange about this tradition since the desert was similar to the Asian steppes.

A stele from the time of Sargon says something like: "Arab, free man of the desert, who does not pay taxes". "Hebrew" is not in Egiptian times an ethnicity as is not a carpenter or plumber, but it became one and the Ethno-genesis is from Arab tribes and peasants escaped from the coercive and fiscal power of the Egyptian empire.

And this is symbolized by "Moses" as a figure opposite to ThutMoses III, Pharaoh of Egypt.