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US ready to act on Syria outside UN?

West fooled Russia and China in Libya and they can doing this again (IMO) .... but Iran , absolutely no , that why they have so much problem with IRI ... the problem is that we haven't enough fire power to stand against all o western country !!!

IMO in next years West will keep china under his control by economic policy ...
1 west don't fool Russia and china in Libya because if they don't act the Libyan will be killed with Gaddafi war machine
and syria the same if we Arab and west don't act the poor Syrian they will be body count ( on your hands )
2 Russia all way give here ally to the west ( in Syria it is different story called Tartous naval base )
3rd iran it is the major problem
 
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I hope you learned your lesson and next time think before spreading more stupid conspiracies.

Look who's talking, after training the Jandallah terrorists the term 'conpsiracy' from you has an extra dimension!
 
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1 west don't fool Russia and china in Libya because if they don't act the Libyan will be killed with Gaddafi war machine
and syria the same if we Arab and west don't act the poor Syrian they will be body count ( on your hands )
2 Russia all way give here ally to the west ( in Syria it is different story called Tartous naval base )
3rd iran it is the major problem

1- Western oil company kicked out Chinese ...
2- why he assad should ignore mojority who support him and give the power to some salafi to being genocid in syria and making it Afghanistan 2
3- for sure Iran is a major problem for Zionist , west and their puppets ...
 
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1- Western oil company kicked out Chinese ...
2- why he assad should ignore mojority who support him and give the power to some salafi to being genocid in syria and making it Afghanistan 2
3- for sure Iran is a major problem for Zionist , west and their puppets ...

What majority? When was the last time free elections took place in Syria? And I am not talking about Iranian style elections when the degenerate regime is defeated in the polls, makes the necessary frauds and butcher his opponents in the streets.
 
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IMO it's nothing but a pressure tactic.By giving such statements they hope Russia will give in.
 
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1- Western oil company kicked out Chinese ...
2- why he assad should ignore mojority who support him and give the power to some salafi to being genocid in syria and making it Afghanistan 2
3- for sure Iran is a major problem for Zionist , west and their puppets ...
1 to you Libyan people get genocide batter than have freedom
2 Syrian bashar Al goat loyals , he don't have any only few Alawites and the rest is scared by the goat war machine
3 If u ask any Arabian he will tel u that Iran is problem must be eliminated , and Zion it is a problem too
and to me batter live in a nation ally with USA than the anti religion communists like china and Russia and north Korea

Iran all ready helping Bashar al Goat killing his people

so why we don't go and help the free army

 
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What majority? When was the last time free elections took place in Syria? And I am not talking about Iranian style elections when the degenerate regime is defeated in the polls, makes the necessary frauds and butcher his opponents in the streets.

First our election was free but some capital peoples think they should decide for all country not all of Iranian , Ahmadinejad had more supporter in other cities but in tehran he hadn't it ....
secod is that was a western plan to crush our government but of cource when people find out the truce even in Tehran they come to street and support Islamic Republic of Iran ...

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At least Assad has support of 40 percent of Syrian and they don't want some Salafi and Wahhabi obtain power and rule them and crushing their country just like Afghanistan in Taliban era .... and rebels are only 10 -15 percent and most of them are Wahhabi and some of their leader are Alqaede's commander who USA free them from prison to come and make chaos in Syria ....

and other sunni may have some problem with bath regime but most of them don't want crush their country in civil war ....they are human and they want security in their country ....

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and this a joke that Syrian sworn enemy are trying to defend Syrian peoples , right !?


IMO the only one who will be happy with a civil war in Syria is a big military base in west of Syria ( occocpy Palestine , evil Zionist regime )

at least be a man and say the truth ... useless Zionist ....
 
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Opponents of intervention in Syria won’t take lectures from the hawks
By Mehdi Hasan Published 05 March 2012



The clamour for military action in Syria grows with each passing day, exacerbated by the relentless brutality of the Assad regime. Saudi Arabia wants to arm the rebels; Qatar has called for an Arab-led force to impose a ceasefire. Meanwhile, neoconservatives and liberal interventionists in the west demand that Nato enforces "no fly zones" and "safe corridors".

We have been here before. Each and every time a foreign conflict or humanitarian crisis erupts, the debate yo-yos between the extremes: bomb or invade, on the one hand, or do nothing, on the other. There is, it seems, no middle ground, no peaceful alternative, no compromise position. A negotiated, non-violent settlement? Don't be silly. Diplomacy is for wimps, restraint is for the cold-hearted.

“The upshot of inaction is murder," wrote Philip Collins, Tony Blair's former speechwriter, in his Times column on 24 February. "The rhetorical naivety in this appeal is deliberate. When you see children slaughtered by state-backed monsters, there is nothing wrong with being reduced to cliché. This cannot be allowed to happen . . . Something must be done."

Something indeed must be done to stop the ongoing carnage in Syria. But military action cannot just be an expression of moral outrage; it has to be a viable and legitimate method for halting the killings and restoring the peace.

Those of us who oppose a western military intervention in Syria are as repulsed and horrified by the violence as the hawks. Personally, I object to taking pompous lectures from those who offer simplistic solutions to complex, faraway conflicts under a cloak of "morality" and "conscience". Nor will I take ethical lessons from the gaggle of hawks who launched an illegal war in Iraq that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, the torture and abuse of detainees and the biggest refugee crisis in the Middle East since the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948.
Selective outrage

Then there is the issue of selective moral outrage. Where was the anguish from Collins and other Blairite bombardiers when their lodestar, the then prime minister Tony Blair, was turning a blind eye to the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006, including the massacre of 28 civilians in the village of Qana, 16 of them children? Blair refused to intervene or even call for a ceasefire.

Today, western governments denounce Iran's support for Assad and condemn the inaction of China and Russia. Our leaders piously call for freedom and democracy in Syria - as part of an anti-Assad coalition that includes liberal paragons such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Hamas and al-Qaeda. Shamefully, we choose to ignore the motivation of the Sunni-led Gulf autocracies, who want Assad out for cynical, sectarian reasons. Opposition groups such as the Syrian National Council (SNC) and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) have had to downplay the fact that they are drawn largely from Syria's Sunni majority and have denied claims that their protests and anger are aimed at the quasi-Shia, Alawite minority that rules the country.

Yet, in July 2011, just six months after the start of the Syrian uprising, the International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based foreign-affairs think tank, revealed how opposition groups "edit out sectarian (ie, anti-Alawite) slogans" from the videos of the protests that they post online.

In recent weeks, members of the FSA - a loose network of armed, military defectors - have admitted to kidnapping Alawites to use as bargaining chips against the regime. Last month, FSA fighters bragged to the BBC that they had summarily executed a group of prisoners. Are those in the west who breezily advocate arming the FSA aware of such reports? If so, does it not bother or worry them?
Unknown factions

To point out the crimes of some Syrian rebels is not to question the opposition's right to resist or offer support - "objective" or otherwise - for the Assad regime. But it should make us pause and think twice before giving weapons, cash or diplomatic recognition to such unknown quantities, thereby making us complicit in any abuses that they are bound to commit.

To claim that the people of Syria, or even the members of Syria's fractured opposition, are united in their call for foreign military intervention is also disingenuous. Take Mohammed Saleh, a Homs-based activist who spent 12 years in jail for his opposition to the late president, Hafez al-Assad. "Anyone who supports us with weapons just wants Syrians to kill each other," he told the Daily Telegraph on 26 February. "We will triumph by man, not by arms. If we win through the weapons, militants will take charge, and we will need another 40 years for a new Syria."

That the phrase "Syria isn't Libya" is now a cliché doesn't make it any less true. Some might argue that Libya isn't Libya - that is, a model or template for liberal intervention. A year on from the uprising against Colonel Gaddafi, Human Rights Watch (HRW) has estimated that there are now 250 different, armed militias vying for control of the Libyan coastal city of Misurata. "People are turning up dead in detention at an alarming rate," HRW's Peter Bouckaert told the New York Times last month. "If this was happening under any Arab dictatorship, there would be an outcry."

We have short memories - and shorter attention spans. Stephen Walt, professor of international affairs at Harvard's John F Kennedy School of Government, has compared the west's foreign policy elite to "a kid with ADD". "A crisis erupts, and there's a sudden flurry of interest and activity," he wrote on 21 February. "And then the moment passes (often as soon as the former ruler does), and attention moves on to the next set of headlines. A year ago, Libya; today, Syria, tomorrow, who?

New Statesman - Opponents of intervention in Syria won
 
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First our election was free but some capital peoples think they should decide for all country not all of Iranian , Ahmadinejad had more supporter in other cities but in tehran he hadn't it ....
secod is that was a western plan to crush our government but of cource when people find out the truce even in Tehran they come to street and support Islamic Republic of Iran ...

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At least Assad has support of 40 percent of Syrian and they don't want some Salafi and Wahhabi obtain power and rule them and crushing their country just like Afghanistan in Taliban era .... and rebels are only 10 -15 percent and most of them are Wahhabi and some of their leader are Alqaede's commander who USA free them from prison to come and make chaos in Syria ....

and other sunni may have some problem with bath regime but most of them don't want crush their country in civil war ....they are human and they want security in their country ....

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and this a joke that Syrian sworn enemy are trying to defend Syrian peoples , right !?


IMO the only one who will be happy with a civil war in Syria is a big military base in west of Syria ( occocpy Palestine , evil Zionist regime )

at least be a man and say the truth ... useless Zionist ....

Your elections were rigged by the Ayatollahs who control Iran without need to stand for any elections, this is the Iranian style democracy. When your own people went to the streets to protest it your security forces shot them.

Now, your country helps Assad to have the same "democracy".

Please give the source of your numbers about the support in Assad, how can you tell? From your fantasies? Assad obviously has opponents all around Syria and he butcher them, even innocent women and children. His Iranian masters taught him well.

Of course Israel will be happy when Assad falls, every dissent human being should be happy when a murderous dictator falls. Your support for this dictator is the ugly truth.
 
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Your elections were rigged by the Ayatollahs who control Iran without need to stand for any elections, this is the Iranian style democracy. When your own people went to the streets to protest it your security forces shot them.

Now, your country helps Assad to have the same "democracy".

Please give the source of your numbers about the support in Assad, how can you tell? From your fantasies? Assad obviously has opponents all around Syria and he butcher them, even innocent women and children. His Iranian masters taught him well.

Of course Israel will be happy when Assad falls, every dissent human being should be happy when a murderous dictator falls. Your support for this dictator is the ugly truth.

What democracy are you talking about??

Look at America where AIPAC has subverted democracy. No American political leader dares to oppose Israel cos your lot are bribing them. You can keep that democracy.


Why do Americans want to invade. You do not bring democracy by bombing people. Why does America and the rest favour bombing and killing Syrians to give them human rights and democracy why not push for elections and dialogue??
 
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What democracy are you talking about??

Look at America where AIPAC has subverted democracy. No American political leader dares to oppose Israel cos your lot are bribing them. You can keep that democracy.


Why do Americans want to invade. You do not bring democracy by bombing people. Why does America and the rest favour bombing and killing Syrians to give them human rights and democracy why not push for elections and dialogue??

In America people are not butchered by their own security forces, In Iran and Syria they do. In America there are free elections and the people decide who will be the leader, in Iran and Syria there are degenerated regimes which does not answer to anyone.

I will prefer the US in any day, and so the overwhelming majority of people on earth, only someone like you who lost his capability to differentiate between right and wrong can imply that US democracy is worst that the governing system in the most horrible countries in the world - Iran and Syria.
 
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In America people are not butchered by their own security forces, In Iran and Syria they do. In America there are free elections and the people decide who will be the leader, in Iran and Syria there are degenerated regimes which does not answer to anyone.

I will prefer the US in any day, and so the overwhelming majority of people on earth, only someone like you who lost his capability to differentiate between right and wrong can imply that US democracy is worst that the governing system in the most horrible countries in the world - Iran and Syria.

Obviously you believe what you are fed by the Zionist press. White-good, black-evil, Jew/Christian= good , Muslims evil and the rest of the crap
 
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Obviously you believe what you are fed by the Zionist press. White-good, black-evil, Jew/Christian= good , Muslims evil and the rest of the crap

You did not deny anything that I said. You also knows the truth but too degenerate to admit it.
 
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You did not deny anything that I said. You also knows the truth but too degenerate to admit it.

Whats the point have done it on many occasions. You lie and are in denial.

Look at how US supported by Israel and others have introduced democracy to Iraq Afghanistan and Libya. In libya we have now 250 independent military "gangs" and people being killed on a daily basis. Your posts and comments are self serving and serve Israeli and American ulterior motives and now you have that doyen of dictators Saud advising you on democracy.

Give me a break stop being transparent Muslims do not need advise from expert Muslim killers like your country
 
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Whats the point have done it on many occasions. You lie and are in denial.

Look at how US supported by Israel and others have introduced democracy to Iraq Afghanistan and Libya. In libya we have now 250 independent military "gangs" and people being killed on a daily basis. Your posts and comments are self serving and serve Israeli and American ulterior motives and now you have that doyen of dictators Saud advising you on democracy.

Give me a break stop being transparent Muslims do not need advise from expert Muslim killers like your country

Your accusation against the US regarding Libya are ridicilous: if the West did not help the rebels you would attack the West for being indifferent for the mass killing of innocents by Qaddafi.

The situation in Libya is the responsiblity of the people of Libya, they are the one who decides to kill each other or not to do it. This time the US did not invade (like you blame it for the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan) and let the people to build their own democracy, but still the US should be blame.

Let me summarise your logic:

Instability in an Arab country and the US do nothing when people are being killed - the US is evil.

The US helps to overthrow the dictator and to stop the killing - the US is evil.

The US invade and remove the dictator by itself - the US is evil.

The US let the people to remove the dictator - the US is evil.
 
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