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US played big role in botched Philippine raid - Senate - Vanguard News

US forces played a “substantial” role in a botched anti-terrorism raid in the Philippines that left 44 local police commandos dead, according to a Senate report released Tuesday.

The raid, known locally as Oplan Exodus, has plunged President Benigno Aquino’s administration into crisis and jeopardised efforts to end a decades-long Muslim separatist insurgency.

“US personnel played a role in the training before, and monitoring, of the… operation,” Senator Grace Poe told reporters as she released the findings of a committee inquiry into the January 25 raid.

“The committee found that the United States substantially in the entirety of Oplan Exodus. It provided equipment, training and intelligence.”

The raid sought to capture or kill two men on the US government’s list of “most wanted terrorists” who were living among Muslim rebels in southern Philippine farming communities.

One of the men, Malaysian national Zulkifli bin Hir who had a $5-million bounty on his head, was reported killed.

But the other, Filipino Abdul Basit Usman, escaped as rebels surrounded the police commandos and killed 44 of them.

A police inquiry earlier outlined a multitude of tactical errors that led to the slaughter of the commandos.

The Senate report said Aquino must “bear responsibility” for the deaths.

But it also raised questions about the accountability of the United States, a longtime military ally of the Philippines that has so far declined to outline its role in the operation.

Three unidentified Americans were brought into the local army brigade headquarters during the operation, creating tensions with the Filipino military commander at a crucial time, the Senate report said.

“One of the Americans ordered Maj. Gen. Edmundo Pangilinan to fire the artillery,” the report stated.

“However Pangilinan refused and told him: ‘Do not dictate to me what to do. I am the commander here’.”



- Concerns over US influence -


Responding to the Senate report, a US government official told AFP: “This operation was planned and executed by Philippine authorities. We refer you to them for details of the operation.”

The United States provides military training and intelligence to the Philippines in its counter-terrorism efforts.

US forces are not allowed to engage in combat under the terms of an agreement between the allies — a Poe said there was no evidence to suggest had been breached.

But, citing US training, equipment and intelligence, she said there were concerns that Washington’s influence on the Philippine National Police (PNP) was too strong.

“This raises a question of whether the PNP leadership would have entered into such a risky and hazardous operation without the support of the United States and the five-million reward offered for Marwan’s capture.”

Aquino’s public support has plummeted to its lowest level since he took office in 2010 because of the botched raid, according to a released on Tuesday.

His public approval ratings fell to 38 percent in the first week of March, from 59 percent last November, polling firm Pulse Asia said.

Aquino’s term ends in the middle of next year and the constitution does not allow him to run for re-election.

But his plunging popularity could weaken his ability to secure congressional support for his most important remaining initiatives, as well as damage the election chances of his hoped-for successor.

Aquino is also hoping to finalise a peace pact with the nation’s biggest rebel group, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), and end a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives since the 1970s.

But the raid has left the peace process in jeopardy, with Congress suspending hearings on the proposed law that would implement the pact.


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All thanks to Aquino so trusted of the Americans. I dont know why Pinoy loves to bend down to US imperialist so much.
 
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US played big role in botched Philippine raid - Senate - Vanguard News

US forces played a “substantial” role in a botched anti-terrorism raid in the Philippines that left 44 local police commandos dead, according to a Senate report released Tuesday.

The raid, known locally as Oplan Exodus, has plunged President Benigno Aquino’s administration into crisis and jeopardised efforts to end a decades-long Muslim separatist insurgency.

“US personnel played a role in the training before, and monitoring, of the… operation,” Senator Grace Poe told reporters as she released the findings of a committee inquiry into the January 25 raid.

“The committee found that the United States substantially in the entirety of Oplan Exodus. It provided equipment, training and intelligence.”

The raid sought to capture or kill two men on the US government’s list of “most wanted terrorists” who were living among Muslim rebels in southern Philippine farming communities.

One of the men, Malaysian national Zulkifli bin Hir who had a $5-million bounty on his head, was reported killed.

But the other, Filipino Abdul Basit Usman, escaped as rebels surrounded the police commandos and killed 44 of them.

A police inquiry earlier outlined a multitude of tactical errors that led to the slaughter of the commandos.

The Senate report said Aquino must “bear responsibility” for the deaths.

But it also raised questions about the accountability of the United States, a longtime military ally of the Philippines that has so far declined to outline its role in the operation.

Three unidentified Americans were brought into the local army brigade headquarters during the operation, creating tensions with the Filipino military commander at a crucial time, the Senate report said.

“One of the Americans ordered Maj. Gen. Edmundo Pangilinan to fire the artillery,” the report stated.

“However Pangilinan refused and told him: ‘Do not dictate to me what to do. I am the commander here’.”



- Concerns over US influence -


Responding to the Senate report, a US government official told AFP: “This operation was planned and executed by Philippine authorities. We refer you to them for details of the operation.”

The United States provides military training and intelligence to the Philippines in its counter-terrorism efforts.

US forces are not allowed to engage in combat under the terms of an agreement between the allies — a Poe said there was no evidence to suggest had been breached.

But, citing US training, equipment and intelligence, she said there were concerns that Washington’s influence on the Philippine National Police (PNP) was too strong.

“This raises a question of whether the PNP leadership would have entered into such a risky and hazardous operation without the support of the United States and the five-million reward offered for Marwan’s capture.”

Aquino’s public support has plummeted to its lowest level since he took office in 2010 because of the botched raid, according to a released on Tuesday.

His public approval ratings fell to 38 percent in the first week of March, from 59 percent last November, polling firm Pulse Asia said.

Aquino’s term ends in the middle of next year and the constitution does not allow him to run for re-election.

But his plunging popularity could weaken his ability to secure congressional support for his most important remaining initiatives, as well as damage the election chances of his hoped-for successor.

Aquino is also hoping to finalise a peace pact with the nation’s biggest rebel group, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), and end a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives since the 1970s.

But the raid has left the peace process in jeopardy, with Congress suspending hearings on the proposed law that would implement the pact.


- See more at: US played big role in botched Philippine raid - Senate - Vanguard News



All thanks to Aquino so trusted of the Americans. I dont know why Pinoy loves to bend down to US imperialist so much.

Simple, because US helped developed the Philippines until Japan came here.

And why bother creating a separate thread? There is already one the discusses this topic in another thread.
 
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Simple, because US helped developed the Philippines until Japan came here.

And why bother creating a separate thread? There is already one the discusses this topic in another thread.
Lol. So now you say US develop Philippine and put you in the right track. Why bother to ask for independent? Would it be better to let US continue be yr master? Your comment is one of the most dumb I ever heard.

Colonial master will always treat their subordinate with contempt. Don't be naive they are doing for the good of you. You pinoy can never raise yr head high. no wonder u don't mind pinoy women get raped and fellow commando killed. Ending the day as long as those killed or raped is not related to u. Why care?
 
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Lol. So now you say US develop Philippine and put you in the right track. Why bother to ask for independent? Would it be better to let US continue be yr master? Your comment is one of the most dumb I ever heard.

Dumb eh?

When Spain left, we were not developed. When Americans came they at least developed our country but our politicians were too eager for independence.

Besides, many here say were are not Asians at all. So better be under the US rather than be insulted.

And oh, is this a bait to get me banned again? :devil:
 
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Dumb eh?

When Spain left, we were not developed. When Americans came they at least developed our country but our politicians were too eager for independence.

Besides, many here say were are not Asians at all. So better be under the US rather than be insulted.

And oh, is this a bait to get me banned again? :devil:
Yes yes, end of the day you are a pinoy without Pride and a selfish fellow. Don't complian that day yr related get raped or killed by American. Becos u are not going to do anything about imperialist. :P
 
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Yes yes, end of the day you are a pinoy without Pride and a selfish fellow. Don't complian that day yr related get raped or killed by American. Becos u are not going to do anything about imperialist. :P

Being selfish huh? What about China claiming everything? :cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

Who now trying to use personal attacks now eh?

You are really trying to bait me to getting banned? Why, you can't get other Pinoy members here to get banned eh? :devil:
 
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Being selfish huh? What about China claiming everything? :cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

Who now trying to use personal attacks now eh?

You are really trying to bait me to getting banned? Why, you can't get other Pinoy members here to get banned eh? :devil:
Becos indeed those island and sea belongs to us. At least we do not touch yr women and Chinese are law abiding. If they indeed commit crime in philippine ,feel free to lynch them.

We do not treat pinoy as unequal and master and slave manner. US did.
 
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Becos indeed those island and sea belongs to us. At least we do not touch yr women and Chinese are law abiding. If they indeed commit crime in philippine ,feel free to lynch them.

We do not treat pinoy as unequal and master and slave manner. US did.

According to history, the Chinese did try to colonized or at least influence the multiple fiefdoms here in the PH before the Spanish came and it is called "Tributary System," so don't dare to say that you don't treat anyone as unequal.
 
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According to history, the Chinese did try to colonized or at least influence the multiple fiefdoms here in the PH before the Spanish came and it is called "Tributary System," so don't dare to say that you don't treat anyone as unequal.
Nonsense. If we want colonies, our Zheng he fleet will have done that. Bandit and non recognised chinese group do not represent Chinese stance. From what I see , u like to be a slave and continue be colonist by the whites. You are a shame of Asia. Pinoy can never be respected. They deserve to be trample.
 
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According to history, the Chinese did try to colonized or at least influence the multiple fiefdoms here in the PH before the Spanish came and it is called "Tributary System," so don't dare to say that you don't treat anyone as unequal.
Nonsense. If we want colonies, our Zheng he fleet will have done that. Bandit and non recognised chinese group do not represent Chinese stance. From what I see , u like to be a slave and continue be colonist by the whites. You are a shame of Asia. Pinoy can never be respected. They deserve to be trample.

Traditionally colonization was not the culture of the Middle Kingdom, rather it stressed harmony, responsibility, and hence it gave rise to the "Tributary System" in which China was supposed to protect the less-military-oriented agricultural civilizations like the Philippines while engaged use of force only to the military-oriented nomadic civilizations like the northern Huns. The system fell apart in the last 2 centuries when the Middle Kingdom failed to keep up with Industrial Revolution, failed to protect the ex-vassal states which ended up brutally colonized in a Western way. If contemporary China can resume its competitiveness after two centuries of dark ages, it should thrive to rebuild a harmonious Sinosphere in which various civilizations can co-exist peacefully, enjoy economic progress and free from colonization threats.

On the case of Philippines, it was still relatively in better situation than the others since US was a completely different hegemon compared to the European colonialists, way more liberal, civilized and multicultural, and these are also traits of the Middle Kingdom. Wish China and Philippines can rebuild a harmonious relationship!
 
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Not with pdf chinese lol. Outside pdf, it's totally different world.
 
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Being selfish huh? What about China claiming everything? :cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

Who now trying to use personal attacks now eh?

You are really trying to bait me to getting banned? Why, you can't get other Pinoy members here to get banned eh? :devil:

We know that you have your own right to love this and hate that.
Why someone keep complaining about that?
 
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We know that you have your own right to love this and hate that.
Why someone keep complaining about that?

The problem here is that why do some Chinese members here make fuss about something that involves the US and internal matters of another country
 
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The problem here is that why do some Chinese members here make fuss about something that involves the US and internal matters of another country

Actually, they feel annoyed when someone else ( not them ) is beloved by their neighbors. Every time.

Or their neighbors love each other.
PH and US
PH and VN
PH and Japan
PH and Korea
Vietnam and India
Vietnam and Russia
Vietnam and Japan
Vietnam and PH

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