US officials in Turkey to promise delivery of F-35 If Turkey cancel S-400

[xenon54 out]

I thought it was about the wonderful innocent pastor, is Trump lying to us?

 

[Hassan Guy]

US officials "promise"

 

[T-123456]

I thought it was about the wonderful innocent pastor, is Trump lying to us?

One might think that this is just a game,played by the three stooges.
Just watch,in the end,we will get both the S 400 and the F 35.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If Turkey does not cancel S-400 deal with Russia then America won't sell F-35 to Turkey but so what? Turkey can buy MiG-35 from Russia which also has AESA. Turkey can in addition join FGFA which is two seat version of Su-57. America is going down. Demographic collapse. Russia is the future. Turkey is smart to align with Russia instead of America.

 

[Trango Towers]

India is not a NATO country and has not bought the F-35. I'm guessing that part of the reason for this debacle is that the US does not want the two systems to live together in the same armed force.

Not true bro.
Greece is NATO ans has S300

Simply put...turks are muslim ...period

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Not true bro.
Greece is NATO ans has S300

Simply put...turks are muslim ...period

That's right. Greece bought S-300PMU1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Turkey is so much inundated with the US promises....

 

[Thorough Pro]

It's up to Turkish leadership but seriously who would trust a country that went back on an earlier agreement?
These Americans have zero credibility, lies circulate in their veins faster than blood.

 

[$@rJen]

I think this offer get turned down by Turkey. This ain't a deal. It's a threat. Turkey is a sovereign state, not a puppet state.

the day they signed into NATO their Sovereign

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Not true bro.
Greece is NATO ans has S300

Simply put...turks are muslim ...period

Maybe Greece is not allowed to buy the F-35 either, and have been told so.
They are upgrading their F-16s where the US do not care about these things.
It has no stealth to protect.

What is stopping Russia from secretly recording stuff which can be sent out inside the radar signal? It is after all a pretty strong transceiver which can reach Russians, if not on land, definitely on a ship in the Black Sea.

It is an unnecessary risk.

 

[Jamaal Yelmaaz]

Taking next 5-10 years into account, if we come to face with 2 options, F-35 or S-400 we must choose S-400 without any hesitation.

Because Turkey is now under serious military, politic and economic treats coming from US, Israel and their vassals Egypt, KSA, UAE and Greece.

Add: even we back down from purchasing S-400 US never sell TR F-35 again......
Turkey foreing policy totally clashing with US and Israel policies in the midfle east.
As long as Turkey act as a sovereign independent country, troubles between Turkey and US, Israel and their vassals will go on even will deepen and grow more...

 

[500]

If Turkey does not cancel S-400 deal with Russia then America won't sell F-35 to Turkey but so what? Turkey can buy MiG-35 from Russia which also has AESA.

Mig-35 doesn't have aesa nor stealth.

Turkey can in addition join FGFA which is two seat version of Su-57. America is going down. Demographic collapse. Russia is the future. Turkey is smart to align with Russia instead of America.

It's the opposite. US population is growing Russian falling.

That's right. Greece bought S-300PMU1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system

Greece did not buy S 300.

 

[Trango Towers]

Maybe Greece is not allowed to buy the F-35 either, and have been told so.
They are upgrading their F-16s where the US do not care about these things.
It has no stealth to protect.

What is stopping Russia from secretly recording stuff which can be sent out inside the radar signal? It is after all a pretty strong transceiver which can reach Russians, if not on land, definitely on a ship in the Black Sea.

It is an unnecessary risk.

No Greece bought the s300 a while back and there was none of this nonsense. Fact is america is a bully. This is showing the true colours of america. Remember how they let us down in 1971 and 65. How we were memeber of Cento.

 

[OldTwilight]

India is not a NATO country and has not bought the F-35. I'm guessing that part of the reason for this debacle is that the US does not want the two systems to live together in the same armed force.

Just imagine that S-400 analysis F-35 radar signature in daily basis and send the data to Russian via some encrypted signals or when Russian technicians come to see it , they store the gathered data ...

And they need one. My hunch is that even if this particular problem goes away and Turkey doesn't buy the S-400, the US will find another excuse to delay the F-35 program.

They don't want to repeat their mistake about selling F-14 to Iran with F-35 and Turkey .... although they already put n thousand backdoor in the export version F-35 ....

If Turkey does not cancel S-400 deal with Russia then America won't sell F-35 to Turkey but so what? Turkey can buy MiG-35 from Russia which also has AESA. Turkey can in addition join FGFA which is two seat version of Su-57. America is going down. Demographic collapse. Russia is the future. Turkey is smart to align with Russia instead of America.

the problem is that downgraded version of Russian system ( export version ) are 10 times worse than USA exported systems , and Russians don't offer good support for their systems ....

 

[MMM-E]

TURKEY needs Air defense Systems against Israel,Greece and Egypt ( only threat to Turkey in the world )

Israel,Greece and Egypt many times threatened Turkey
Israel,Greece and Egypt + 80.000 Pkk/Ypg terrorists are waiting for order from the US to attack on Turkey

-- The Eastern Mediterranean's New Great Game Over Natural Gas
-- to create terror coridor by the US in Syria

1 -- so lets buy S400 Air defense System to turn enemy fighter jets to burned bird
2 -- to develop KORKUT , HISAR-A and HISAR-O Air defense Systems to intercept enemy Cruise Missiles
3 -- to develop 280-1000+ km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles to engage on Athens , Tel Aviv and Cairo
4 -- to develop GEZGIN land-naval Cruise Missile to engage on military and strategic targets in Greece-Israel and Egypt
5 -- to arm all Aegean and Mediterranean coasts with land based ATMACA anti ship Missiles to burn enemy Navies

and Turkish Airforce F-4 , F-16 Fighter Jets can carry SOM Cruise Missiles ( land attack / anti ship )


the US-Israel wants to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity and they attacks on Turkey to do it since 2013