US Navy commander implies that Chinese naval ships can't 'fight their way out of a wet paper bag'

[F-22Raptor]

In a brief but illuminating interview, US Navy Vice Admiral Tom Rowden, the commander of the US Navy's Surface forces, told Defense News' Christopher P. Cavas a key difference between the ships of the US and Chinese navies.

Cavas asked Rowden about China commissioning a 4,000 ton frigate and deploying it just six weeks later, a start-to-finish speed inconceivable in the US Navy, where ships undergo many rounds of testing and often take more than one year to deploy.

When asked about the differences between the US and China's processes, Rowden explained that while a US and a Chinese ship may both appear combat-ready,"[o]ne of them couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag and the other one will rock anything that it comes up against."

Rowden couched his criticism well, but the meaning is clear. The US doesn't test its ships for fun, or to spend excess money in the budget, but "to be 100 percent confident in the ship and confident in the execution of any mission leadership may give them."

Rowden wouldn't speculate much on China's process, but he made himself clear to begin with.

Tensions between China and the US stand at a high over perceived shifts in US policy towards Taiwan, China's seizure of a US Navy drone, and years of China militarizing the South China Sea and bullying its neighbors.

Surely Rowden has sized up China's fleet and its rapidly burgeoning navy, and his assessment in this interview is telling.

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-navy-cant-fight-their-way-out-of-a-wet-paper-bag-rowden-2017-1

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Hmm is that why America abandoned their mutual defence treaty with the Philippines when China seized their territory in 2012?

Anyone who wants to test China's large arsenal of Carrier-killer ballistic missiles (the first in the world) they are very welcome to try and stop our island building in the South China Sea.

But apparently no one has the guts to do that. So our island building in the South China Sea is still going ahead at full speed.

Wake us up when you have the guts to fire on our islands, otherwise keep crying and drawing red lines that even your own allies laugh at.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

China has tons(literally) of wet paper bag coming up

 

[Beast]

This US admiral does not appear professional at all. Maybe it's a new trend in USN to have more and more of these sub standard admiral.

 

[truthseeker2010]

In a brief but illuminating interview, US Navy Vice Admiral Tom Rowden, the commander of the US Navy's Surface forces, told Defense News' Christopher P. Cavas a key difference between the ships of the US and Chinese navies.

Cavas asked Rowden about China commissioning a 4,000 ton frigate and deploying it just six weeks later, a start-to-finish speed inconceivable in the US Navy, where ships undergo many rounds of testing and often take more than one year to deploy.

When asked about the differences between the US and China's processes, Rowden explained that while a US and a Chinese ship may both appear combat-ready,"[o]ne of them couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag and the other one will rock anything that it comes up against."

Rowden couched his criticism well, but the meaning is clear. The US doesn't test its ships for fun, or to spend excess money in the budget, but "to be 100 percent confident in the ship and confident in the execution of any mission leadership may give them."

Rowden wouldn't speculate much on China's process, but he made himself clear to begin with.

Tensions between China and the US stand at a high over perceived shifts in US policy towards Taiwan, China's seizure of a US Navy drone, and years of China militarizing the South China Sea and bullying its neighbors.

Surely Rowden has sized up China's fleet and its rapidly burgeoning navy, and his assessment in this interview is telling.

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-navy-cant-fight-their-way-out-of-a-wet-paper-bag-rowden-2017-1

USA has become just another country, empty words and nothing else............

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

In the Koren war when the disparity of technology was highest, the Americans claim to finnish the war by its first Christmas. Then when the PVA arrived they ran and ran and ran and even the south Korean capital was lost.

Its a tradition of theirs to talk tough and belittle their foes. Then gtfo when shit gets real.

 

[Beast]

It those same US admiral to talk about China will take few years (4-5 years) after commissioning CV-16 Liaoning to have a first successful touch down which appears to be false?

Same old US Air Marshal to say PLAAF will have J-20 commissioned only in 2020-2025.

So we can conclude all these high ranking US officers words are so far just BS and very immature comments?

If you can take these US admiral words for China as real. The earth will be cube.

 

[terranMarine]

For US Generals it was a sure win victory back in the Korean War era. The Yankees had planes, advanced weaponry, called in over a dozen of allies to fight DPRK. The poorly and backward Chinese army wouldn't dare to help his neighbor, not in a millions years at least that was the general idea of these politicians - arm chair generals. Much to their surprise: we came and slaughtered - they crapped and fled.

Six decades later US Vice Admiral is convinced their ships will rock anything that is in their way while the US Generals are wise enough not to open their mouth after DPRK's couple of nuclear tests. Shortly after China's massive exercise in SCS US Admiral rushed to Beijing on the double in order to De-escalate the tension. So much for the rock anything that's standing in their way Still you guys ain't seen nothing yet wait till 3-5 decades from now, we will have an abundance of DF-21D, DF-41 and Chinese Armada (052C/D,054,055 and perhaps even newer types accompanying our ACs in combination with many nuclear subs). Even today the US can't do sh!t about Chinese defense missiles on our islands other than hyping up Chinese arming the islands through their MSM.

 

[Globenim]

Yeah we sure saw how they where rocking those riverbeds and tugboats.

I wouldn't jinx it mouthing of about "wet paperbags" at this time.

 

[Mrc]

Sounds like a drunk person. Unprofessiinal comment from a person representing a professional navy

 

[In4ser]

I don't think he necessarily believes his own statement, he's trying to argue why USN needs a lot funding and time to build its ships compared to China. So he's going with the whole Quality vs. Quantity argument for China. MIC needs to keep the pork from Congress flowing...

 

[xunzi]

The wet paper bag is good enough to scare a lot of states. LOL

 

[GR!FF!N]

Actually,he put his argument delicately.

I want to highlight a similar example from history...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Yalu_River_(1894)

Outgunned and outnumbered Japanese Navy beating Chinese Navy.Japan also pointed out similar deficit in Chinese Navy a century earlier.No doubt about PLAN's capability,but somehow,USN always retained more quality than the rest of the world since 1940s.

 

[Maddd]

@Abingdonboy @Levina @ranjeet @TEJAS @SarthakGanguly @JanjaWeed

 

[帅的一匹]

Actually,he put his argument delicately.

I want to highlight a similar example from history...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Yalu_River_(1894)

Outgunned and outnumbered Japanese Navy beating Chinese Navy.Japan also pointed out similar deficit in Chinese Navy a century earlier.No doubt about PLAN's capability,but somehow,USN always retained more quality than the rest of the world since 1940s.

Hello, now is year 2017, not year 1894. Now the China regime is under Han's control, not some corrupted and incompetent Manchu. Now we can beat the shit out of anyone, including Japan and India.