US NAVAL BASE ,On BD !! True Or Lie ??

[eastwatch]

Sorry To Say That, Are You A Prophet Or A Magician Who Can See The Future Or Can Hear News From Future U said very illogicaly tht," Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf " , here I Oppose.If Muslims Were Un-educated as you say they could never invent several inventions before christian civilizations.If muslims are un-educated then no muslim nation today,cannot become able to produce nuks.Iran,Pakistan,Turk...Almost Each and everyone is raising.Yes you can say this about bd , but yes very soom there will be nuclear power plant in BD in near future coz in parliamnt the bill has been passed.
If Quran's prophecy about Christians & Yahudi Become True Today , Then About Muslim Ofcourse Be True.
Yes In Some Country Muslims are ignorent,but you cant say almost every muslim nation are uneducated .

In kazakhstan literacy rate : 99.6 %
In Tazikhstan L.R : 99.6 %
In Azarbaijan L.R : 99.5 %
Turkmenistan L.R : 99.5 %
Kyrgyzstan L.R : 99.3 %
Albania : 99.2 %
bosnia : 99 %
in palestain : 94.6 %
but yes in BD only 55%
In saudia 85 % male and 70 females are educated .so how can you say muslims nations will remains always behind and we are un-educated !!

A literate person may or may not be educated, and an educated person may or may not be enlightened with the virtue of knowledge. Hope, you understand the differences among the three stages. Muslims are not educated and a very few of them are enlightened. This makes them believe in superstitions, and as a result, they will remain in the dark without being enlightened with knowledge. The last thousand years of history says what I am saying here.

A person does not have to be a prophet to know the future. Nobody really knows about the future, a person can only project. It is just like the economic projection of a country. The last thousand years of superstitious beliefs will keep on influencing to guide the muslims to the same dark future. All other religionists have already foresook many of their make-beliefs and superstitions, but Muslims are still tied to the legacy of the past with a static mindset.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

A literate person may or may not be educated, and an educated person may or may not be enlightened with the virtue of knowledge. Hope, you understand the differences among the three stages. Muslims are not educated and a very few of them are enlightened. This makes them believe in superstitions, and as a result, they will remain in the dark without being enlightened with knowledge. The last thousand years of history says what I am saying here.

A person does not have to be a prophet to know the future. Nobody really knows about the future, a person can only project. It is just like the economic projection of a country. The last thousand years of superstitious beliefs will keep on influencing to guide the muslims to the same dark future. All other religionists have already foresook many of their make-beliefs and superstitions, but Muslims are still tied to the legacy of the past with a static mindset.

You are wrong... it is evangelical christians those who have believe in superstition then any other religious group.

As I told you earlier for now those country which were colonized by western country lagged behind the west but this trend is changing. N what thousand year of history you are talking about??? Decline of muslim state was not the reason of Islam but the destruction of Baghdad by the mongols. It was the early true islamic teachings and thought which had brought the golden age of islam. But unfortunately at later stages hard liners took over the power and colonialism which has lagged the muslim society.

Enlightenment with the virtue of knowledge is not always necessary to be scientifically developed country. Even in USA more then 50% adult still think nano tech research is something like playing with god but they are not backward society. N future trend always plays a big role to lay out the plan...how to move ahead.

Current trend is clear western countries are declining in terms of science and technology. If you go to any grad engineering classes of western countries any one will see this trend. As I said have some self belief not just a lackey o western people....People of china have such self belief that why they are developing. Even in 1970s they were behind then Bangladesh.

Never mind.

 

[eastwatch]

1) As I told you earlier for now those country which were colonized by western country lagged behind the west but this trend is changing. N what thousand year of history you are talking about??? Decline of muslim state was not the reason of Islam but the destruction of Baghdad by the mongols. It was the early true islamic teachings and thought which had brought the golden age of islam. But unfortunately at later stages hard liners took over the power and colonialism which has lagged the muslim society.

2) Enlightenment with the virtue of knowledge is not always necessary to be scientifically developed country. Even in USA more then 50% adult still think nano tech research is something like playing with god but they are not backward society. N future trend always plays a big role to lay out the plan...how to move ahead.

3) Current trend is clear western countries are declining in terms of science and technology. If you go to any grad engineering classes of western countries any one will see this trend. As I said have some self belief not just a lackey o western people....People of china have such self belief that why they are developing. Even in 1970s they were behind then Bangladesh.

1) So, why all the muslim countries were colonized by the Christian west in the first place? Can you answer that? You are exchanging cause with the outcome. Why the infidel Mongols of Halaku Khan could have defeated the Muslims in 1258? It is because muslims depended more on divine power to save them than to upgrade their military technology levels.

Note one muslim superstition. When Halaku Khan ordered the death of Caliph Mustasim Billah, one Muslim soldier of Halaku cautioned him not to wet the earth with the blood of a divine Mustasim because it will cause destruction of the entire world. Halaku smiled and ordered Mustasim to be tied in a carpet before being killed by horse hoofs pounding on him to avoid blood flowing out on the earth. I am just giving one example of a muslim superstition.

2) Normal people are a bunch of sheep to be guided by a group of enlightened leaders - political, social or otherwise. However, when did you survey the American public opinion?

3) Western people usually go to work after high school graduation because even with that kind of academic qualification they can land a good paying job, their economy is so strong. As a result, US and western Universities hire many non-western graduates into their graduate schools, many of whom stay behind and work in high paying jobs in the host countries. They essentially belong to those countries where they work. They are not valued in and do not contribute to the well-being of their home countries.

 

[Md Akmal]

Look, SEATO and CENTO (Central Treaty Organization) were military treaty and cannot be compared with economic blocks like EU and ASEAN. These are regional blocks of which India or Bangladesh will have no entry. ASEAN Secretariate never said anything about the possible entry of BD. Can BD enter ASEAN because PDF BD members are wishing so?

@ Is it your argument ? Why not Bangladesh can join with ASEAN ? Bangladesh is just after Burma and it is linked with Loas and Vietnam.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

1) So, why all the muslim countries were colonized by the Christian west in the first place? Can you answer that? You are exchanging cause with the outcome. Why the infidel Mongols of Halaku Khan could have defeated the Muslims in 1258? It is because muslims depended more on divine power to save them than to upgrade their military technology levels.


Note one muslim superstition. When Halaku Khan ordered the death of Caliph Mustasim Billah, one Muslim soldier of Halaku cautioned him not to wet the earth with the blood of a divine Mustasim because it will cause destruction of the entire world. Halaku smiled and ordered Mustasim to be tied in a carpet before being killed by horse hoofs pounding on him to avoid blood flowing out on the earth. I am just giving one example of a muslim superstition.

Muslims were not defeated at that battle of 1258 due to lack of military technology but due to lack of soldier and the corrupt caliph of that time was busy more with asking beautiful womans for him then to prepare for the war. N one of his adviser who was bribed by the mongol gave a false impression that mongol were weak and even couple of thousand woman just by throwing stone can defeat them. At that time Baghdad was peak in terms of science and technology. Illiterate turk or mongol had no match with that.

Now regarding military technology it is the muslim who used canon power for the 1st time in 1260 in battle of ain jalut which not only defeated the mongols but also broke their back such that they never dare to attack back. Gradually all those mongols were defeated and converted to islam.

Having super natural belief at that time was higher then most other time as people were busy at that time fighting religious war saying our god is better then yours. But it is the evengelical christians who hold such belief that destruction of al aqsa mosque is necessary to return the 2nd coming of christ and also it is necessary to remain attach with the jews people for the same reason and for the Armageddon where jews will fight against the evil muslims...

This is happening in USA and many policy makers even support such cultic thought. I just wonder how you will term them...

2) Normal people are a bunch of sheep to be guided by a group of enlightened leaders - political, social or otherwise. However, when did you survey the American public opinion?

Not it was not me but many other org conducted such survey... Many USA adult term most of the science and research as playing god. One of them is genetic research. You can find plenty by searching. Just have a look at the following news where 2 scientists were accused of playing god.

American scientist who created artificial life denies 'playing God' - Telegraph

3) Western people usually go to work after high school graduation because even with that kind of academic qualification they can land a good paying job, their economy is so strong. As a result, US and western Universities hire many non-western graduates into their graduate schools, many of whom stay behind and work in high paying jobs in the host countries. They essentially belong to those countries where they work. They are not valued in and do not contribute to the well-being of their home countries.

You are right ... but they are lagging in producing science and engineering graduate. Their economy is strong for now for the innovation, science and technology. Once there will not be any science and technological achievement it will be lagged behind and this is as simple as this one. Even counting those foreign born national US is producing only 70K engineers a years where as India is producing 350K, China 650K, Iran 200-300K. Once these numbers will turn into quality fate of western countries will be sealed. But now students of many countries like south korea, taiwan, Japan, China prefer to return after their study instead of staying there.

But I can not agree with your notion that well educated people those who do not stay in their mother land does not contribute to their country. They contribute financially and many other ways. If they return to their mother land what will be their use for now!!! Then they will not even be able to contribute financially.

 

[Md Akmal]

1) So, why all the muslim countries were colonized by the Christian west in the first place? Can you answer that? You are exchanging cause with the outcome. Why the infidel Mongols of Halaku Khan could have defeated the Muslims in 1258? It is because muslims depended more on divine power to save them than to upgrade their military technology levels.


Note one muslim superstition. When Halaku Khan ordered the death of Caliph Mustasim Billah, one Muslim soldier of Halaku cautioned him not to wet the earth with the blood of a divine Mustasim because it will cause destruction of the entire world. Halaku smiled and ordered Mustasim to be tied in a carpet before being killed by horse hoofs pounding on him to avoid blood flowing out on the earth. I am just giving one example of a muslim superstition.


2) Normal people are a bunch of sheep to be guided by a group of enlightened leaders - political, social or otherwise. However, when did you survey the American public opinion?

3) Western people usually go to work after high school graduation because even with that kind of academic qualification they can land a good paying job, their economy is so strong. As a result, US and western Universities hire many non-western graduates into their graduate schools, many of whom stay behind and work in high paying jobs in the host countries. They essentially belong to those countries where they work. They are not valued in and do not contribute to the well-being of their home countries.

@ Great eastwatch, donnot make fun with the muslim sentiment ????????

@ Your argument is wrong . It is true that muslims always had a faith on God and with this faith they had conquired the world with a sword. Side by side they also developed their armaments, war tactics and war strategy. Muslims were the good war planners. Have you forgotten about the leadership of Tarique once he landed at the shore of Gibralter and burned all the ships ?

@ At the Battle of Yarmouk the Romans were defeated by the muslims with only 40,000 troops as against more than 3 lacs modern troops.

@ For your information once Halaku Khan attacked Bagdad, at that times muslims were divided and Bagdad was a very small muslim sultanate. That is why we always say that if we are divided than we are finished.

@ It was not only the fall of Bagdad but also Ottaman Empire also failed to defend them aginst the West. As you know Ottaman Empire was known as "Sickman of Europe". Infact after the Industrial Revolution in Europe the muslims were lagged behind and remained isolated. That was an another conspiracy of Europe.

@ Finally believing and having a faith on "Allah" is not a superstition. Better learnt it in Japan as because they also had a great faith on something like ..... sorry I have forgotten.......

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

@ Great eastwatch, donnot make fun with the muslim sentiment ????????

@ Your argument is wrong . It is true that muslims always had a faith on God and with this faith they had conquired the world with a sword. Side by side they also developed their armaments, war tactics and war strategy. Muslims were the good war planners. Have you forgotten about the leadership of Tarique once he landed at the shore of Gibralter and burned all the ships ?

@ For your information once Halaku Khan attacked Bagdad, at that times muslims were divided and Bagdad was a very small muslim sultanate. That is why we always say that if we are divided than we are finisehed.

@ It was not only the fall of Bagdad but also Ottaman Empire also failed to defend them aginst the West. As you know Ottaman Empire was known as "Sickman of Europe". Infact after the Industrial Revolution in Europe the muslims were lagged behind and remained isolated. That was an another conspiracy of Europe.

@ Finally believing and having a faith on "Allah" is not a superstition. Better learnt it in Japan as because they also had a great faith on something like ..... sorry I have forgotten.......

You are right... turk and mongol were nomad people and in terms of science and technology they had no achievement. They were good fighter and that was their recognition only. Both ottoman empire and mughal empire was ruled by these mongol and turks those who were in earlier time were slaves. As usual they gave very less emphasis in education, science and technology when Europe was focusing more on science and technology despite having a big fortune, wealth and economy.

As they were muslim so some people try to associate Islam with it. But their lack of vision of future was one of the prime reason for the downfall of the muslims in south asia and midlle east in 19th and 20th century.

 

[eastwatch]

@ Is it your argument ? Why not Bangladesh can join with ASEAN ? Bangladesh is just after Burma and it is linked with Loas and Vietnam.

You are putting a lame argument of geographical link between Burma and Bangladesh. Now, if ASEAN accepts your viewpoint then it will have to include India, too, because India's NE is far nearer to Burma and other ASEAN countries. I am not saying I am against the inclusion of BD into ASEAN. But, it is upto ASEAN countries to decide whether they will include BD. Note, after this inclusion ASEAN may have to include India and then also Pakistan and so on.

Historically, ASEAN and South Asian regions are separated without a commonality. Love or hate, Bd people know Indians far better than the same BD people know about the Burmese. Southeast asian history was never connected with the history of South Asia. There are ethnic and cultural differences between the two regions. An organization, when overstretched in numerous countries with less understanding among them, a kind of friction arises that destroys such an organization.

After saying all these above I hope, though I do not expect, an inclusion of Bangladesh into the ASEAN main body.

 

[Talha Khan Abid]

Muslim birth rate is really high then the Indian hindus. I would like to remind you that in India there are 350 million untouchable hindus those who are leaving hinduism at an alarming rate. On top of it many hindus of other castes are also leaving it. So in 2 decades to 3 decades from Bangladesh to Afghanistan it will be muslim majority land. I would like to further add that the number of muslims in India is much higher then official estimates and some people put it in between 20-30% of total Indian population.

Sir that falsehood. I hear Muslim birth rate in India come down and the population over reported. Hindu Nationalist do it to make Muslim look bad sir.

 

[eastwatch]

@ Great eastwatch, donnot make fun with the muslim sentiment ????????

@ Your argument is wrong . It is true that muslims always had a faith on God and with this faith they had conquired the world with a sword. Side by side they also developed their armaments, war tactics and war strategy. Muslims were the good war planners. Have you forgotten about the leadership of Tarique once he landed at the shore of Gibralter and burned all the ships ?

@ At the Battle of Yarmouk the Romans were defeated by the muslims with only 40,000 troops as against more than 3 lacs modern troops.

@ For your information once Halaku Khan attacked Bagdad, at that times muslims were divided and Bagdad was a very small muslim sultanate. That is why we always say that if we are divided than we are finished.

@ It was not only the fall of Bagdad but also Ottaman Empire also failed to defend them aginst the West. As you know Ottaman Empire was known as "Sickman of Europe". Infact after the Industrial Revolution in Europe the muslims were lagged behind and remained isolated. That was an another conspiracy of Europe.

@ Finally believing and having a faith on "Allah" is not a superstition. Better learnt it in Japan as because they also had a great faith on something like ..... sorry I have forgotten.......

Do not waste your time by teaching me history. Rather, tell me why the same glorious muslims were enslaved by the Christian west during the next 800 years? Talk logic and do not talk emotion.

 

[TopCat]

For how many centuries the poor Muslims of South Asia will keep on believing in this number game? When in the past has a demographic number had brought dominance of a people over another group of people. I just do not understand how the uneducated, poor Muslims can ever dominate over any groups of well-educated non-Muslims just by shear number?

It is not the number of heads that should be counted. Rather, it is the volume of brains that should be counted. In terms of brains all other religious groups have gone a lightyear ahead of the Muslims.

Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf which always fails to come by.

There is already a sea change in Muslim psycho in the last 50 years or so. Besides Muslims are not as vulnerable as it was in 1947. With the number you have in hand in the SAARC muslim can surely keep parity with Hindus now for sure.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Do not waste your time by teaching me history. Rather, tell me why the same glorious muslims were enslaved by the Christian west during the next 800 years? Talk logic and do not talk emotion.

Not 800 years but 300 years. Same can be said about west. The main reason for colonialism was that mongol and turk ruler did not contribute much towards education for centuries which had made the south asia and middle east lagged behind Europe. This happened not only to the muslim countries but also to south americans, africans, south east asians and even to China. But due to western decline in terms of science and technology it is reversing. Within next 20-50 years it will be a complete different world where west will lagged behind asia to a big margin. Alreagy downfall of some western countries like greece, spain, italy etc have begun.

 

[RAJPUTAANA]

Muslim birth rate is really high then the Indian hindus. I would like to remind you that in India there are 350 million untouchable hindus those who are leaving hinduism at an alarming rate. On top of it many hindus of other castes are also leaving it. So in 2 decades to 3 decades from Bangladesh to Afghanistan it will be muslim majority land. I would like to further add that the number of muslims in India is much higher then official estimates and some people put it in between 20-30% of total Indian population.

how will it help u if the whole world becomes muslim.... even then u all will fight with each other.... there is much more to life than religion..... majority of muslims in pakistan and bangladesh are screwed up in head..... am happy for indian muslims, that they remained in india.....u make ur and others life hell here in this world and dream about getting heaven on judgement day

 

[TopCat]

Sir that falsehood. I hear Muslim birth rate in India come down and the population over reported. Hindu Nationalist do it to make Muslim look bad sir.

Well I go by the stats not sheer presumption.
In the last 800 years share of Muslim population in Indian subcontinent increased by .05% a year. But in the last 60 years in India only (not the whole subcontinent) the share of Muslim populations increasing at a rate of .1% year.

 

[Edevelop]

how will it help u if the whole world becomes muslim.... even then u all will fight with each other.... there is much more to life than religion..... majority of muslims in pakistan and bangladesh are screwed up in head..... am happy for indian muslims, that they remained in india.....u make ur and others life hell here in this world and dream about getting heaven on judgement day

What do you mean by remained in India? They are Indians and will always be. They have nothing to do with Pakistan and its provinces ethnically and culturally period.