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16 March 2009

United States forces shot down an Iranian drone aircraft that ventured inside Iraq last month, U.S. and Iraqi officials said on Monday, an incident that highlights deep U.S.-Iranian tensions.

A U.S. military spokesman said that U.S. jet fighters shot down the unmanned Iranian aircraft on Feb. 25 approximately 60 miles northeast of Baghdad.

"The UAV had been tracked by coalition air forces for nearly 1 hour and 10minutes before it was engaged and shot down well inside Iraqi airspace," he said. The Iranian unmanned plane was identified as Ababil 3 model.

Major-General Abdul Aziz Mohammed Jassim, head of military operations at the Iraqi Defence Ministry, said he believed the plane's entry into Iraq was likely a mistake.

"According to the report received by multinational forces, this drone entered Iraq mistakenly at a point 100 from Baghdad. It crossed 6 miles into Iraq," he said.

"It's most likely that its entrance [into Iraq] was a mistake," he said.

The three weeks of silence from U.S., Iraqi and Iranian officials about the unusual incident underscores the sensitive nature of any contact between Iran and the U.S.

Iranian officials had no immediate comment on the incident.

The U.S. military has long accused Iran of arming militants and meddling in neighboring Iraq, where tens of thousands have died in sectarian violence since the U.S.-led invasion to oust Saddam Hussein in 2003.

But relations between the government of Iraq's Shi'ite Muslim Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Iran, a fellow majority Shi'ite nation, are mostly friendly.

In recent months, as violence has dropped sharply across Iraq, U.S. officials have spoken less forcefully about Iran's purported role in Iraq. Tehran denies backing Iraqi militants.

British defense analyst Tim Ripley said the incident was a symptom of ongoing U.S.-Iranian tensions, but said it wouldn't necessarily escalate those strains immediately.

"It's one of those things you put in a file and when things kick off, you wheel it out to support your case," he said.

The United States has about 140,000 troops in Iraq, but combat operations will cease by the end of August 2010 under Obama's withdrawal plan, and all U.S. forces are due to leave the country by the end of 2011.

The coming withdrawal raises doubts about whether local security forces, increasing leading military operations but still reliant on U.S. forces, will be able to stave off the
threat of resurgent violence on their own.

Ripley said that such an incident may be even more sensitive for Iraqi officials than U.S. counterparts, especially among those in the Iraqi government who fear the influence of Iran.

"They will use this as evidence of Iranian plots," he said.

In a shift from the Bush administration, U.S. President Barack Obama, who took office in January, has said he would be open to engaging with Iran on a range of issues, from nuclear ambitions to how Iran might assist in Afghanistan.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said he also is open to talks with Washington, but demands fundamental changes to U.S. policy in the Middle East.

Underlying U.S.-Iranian tensions is Iran's nuclear program, which Washington believes is aimed at building atomic weapons. Iran insists it seeks only power generation.
 
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Hey, neat! Pakistan should send some pilots to Iraq for training in drone killing by the USAF! Might come in handy.
 
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Hey, neat! Pakistan should send some pilots to Iraq for training in drone killing by the USAF! Might come in handy.
Pakistani Pilots shot down Indian drone back in 2000 i think it was operated by Israel for India as it was recently purchased by India.:sniper::sniper:
 
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"Don't worry we have the taliban, they will shoot em down."

Don't hold your breath. You might self-suffocate.:lol::usflag:
 
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Shooting down american drone is no child's joke. I somehow still doubt did Taliban down that last american drone or was it just a human error by american side. What does Taliban have to shoot down american drone?
But do american allow pakistan to use their drone on taliban? ( kind of lame question since we all know the answer -but still)
Good one- S-2 - good sense of humor.
 
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Shooting down american drone is no child's joke. I somehow still doubt did Taliban down that last american drone or was it just a human error by american side. What does Taliban have to shoot down american drone?
But do american allow pakistan to use their drone on taliban? ( kind of lame question since we all know the answer -but still)
Good one- S-2 - good sense of humor.

thats 2, i was in 2008 n 1 was now. If they did shoot it down, it is hard to believe. According to news and sources it was taliban.

No, but ISI cooperate with CIA, with the targets.
 
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"Don't worry we have the taliban, they will shoot em down."

Don't hold your breath. You might self-suffocate.:lol::usflag:

Don't worry abt me, i'll be fine. :enjoy::cheers:

Plus i made a valid point, since ur in the army, u can tell us how taliban managed to take down 2 drones??
 
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Yeh its common sense - we all know - Americans cant fight this war without regional help.
Its like hitting targets blindfolded, Because its a well known fact there is nothing to destroy in afgan now.
But how can taliban with their limited resources can shoot down american drone ?
Is it because ( they steal american equipment and use them back on Americans?)
 
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Yeh its common sense - we all know - Americans cant fight this war without regional help.
Its like hitting targets blindfolded, Because its a well known fact there is nothing to destroy in afgan now.
But how can taliban with their limited resources can shoot down american drone ?
Is it because ( they steal american equipment and use them back on Americans?)

Its a posibility, i have seen videos of Apaches being shot down, by Taliban using American weapons from the Russian war.

Maybe S-2 knows...
 
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" i have seen videos of Apaches being shot down, by Taliban using American weapons from the Russian war."

I haven't but I know that Apaches hit a sh!tstorm on a raid in Iraq in 2003. The best part of an attack company was put on the deck for some time. It can be done and without Stinger.

I have seen a video placed by Qsaark, I believe, that showed some guys nailing an Mi-24 HIND with a Stinger in Chechnya. NO WAY was it Afghanistan and Qsaark agreed after checking.

PREDATOR? I dunno. REAPER looks large enough to possibly sustain some very light small arms fire. I'm sure, though, that the "golden bullet" rule always applies. Operator error drop the altitude enough to bring it into DshK HMG range and I'm SURE that would do the trick. Still, with a single weapon (even a HMG) it's no easy target at that height and speed.

STINGER. I'm really certain that if any stocks remained from back in the day, they'd be hauled out by now. Like the Mi-24 HIND, Apache kicks serious azz on the Afghan side. Soo too Cobra in Pakistan. No STINGERS for Cobra, I doubt there's anything available like that then for PREDATOR.

Golden bullet theory largely at work.:lol:

And it happens.

Finally, sh!t happens. You could hit a bird and auger in with PREDATOR. Damned easy and happens a LOT with aircraft. Too much actually. HUGE problem there, btw, at Bagram AFB.
 
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