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The island-hopping campaign against Japanese forces during World War II was perhaps the U.S. Marine Corps’ finest hour. Today, Marines are trying to ready themselves for a potential conflagration against another Indo-Pacific adversary that has emerged as a great power competitor in the 21st century — China.

After the 9/11 attacks and the U.S. invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, counterinsurgency became the service’s main focus. But not anymore.

The Corps has been conducting “a lot of COIN ops for the last two decades,” Lt. Gen. Mark Wise, deputy commandant for aviation, noted at the Navy League’s Sea-Air-Space conference in August.

However, “the potential adversaries that we have out there have been watching closely and not standing idly by,” he said. “They have been increasing in complexity, they’ve been increasing in capacity, and they’ve been doing all of that over the last 20 years. And it’s only accelerating right now.”

Who are these potential adversaries?

“The pacing threat is China,” said Lt. Gen. Eric Smith, commanding general at Marine Corps Combat Development Command and deputy commandant for combat development and integration. “We shouldn’t sugarcoat that and talk in vague terms. We’re talking about China as a pacing threat because of their bellicose actions and language.”

The Corps is not as well postured as it should be to address the challenge, officials say. To get after the problem, the service is pursuing new technologies, force structure changes and operating concepts.

Operating concepts that the Marines are looking to apply in the Indo-Pacific region include distributed maritime ops, littoral ops in a contested environment, and expeditionary advanced base operations.

Marines must be able to employ mobile, low-signature, operationally relevant, and easy to maintain and sustain naval expeditionary forces from a series of austere, temporary locations ashore or inshore within a contested or potentially contested maritime area in order to conduct sea denial, support sea control, or enable fleet sustainment, according to a service news release.

Employing these concepts in the Indo-Pacific is no easy task, Wise noted.

“When you look at an archipelago that’s greater than 1,000 islands and you’re looking at how you’re going to posture in a theater like that … that adds a level of complexity to the challenge you’re trying to solve,” he said. “How are you going to operate in that theater? ... It [is] really hard when you’re looking at the distances we’re covering to do that.”

The Marine aviation community envisions a “defense-in-depth approach,” according to Wise.

Under this construct, F-35B joint strike fighters — which have a short-takeoff/vertical-landing capability— can be deployed from “big-deck” amphibious warships or other locations and operate on the “outer edge” of the battlespace as both sensors and shooters, he said. Drones such as the MQ-9 Reaper could provide intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance support. And transport aircraft such as the V-22 Osprey tiltrotor platform — which can take off and land vertically like a helicopter and then fly faster in fixed-wing mode — would quickly move Marines where they need to go to conduct assaults or perform other missions.

To boost the lethality of aircraft, the service is developing new air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons.

However, “the key and operative piece here is the network that supports it,” Wise said. That will enable warfighters to “take longer-range shots” and better control weapons.

The Marine Corps is working with the Navy on an initiative known as Project Overmatch, the sea services’ contribution to joint all-domain command and control. The aim is to better connect sensors and shooters and “integrate the kill chains out there and make sure that we can put steel on target,” said William Williford, executive director at Marine Corps Systems Command.

During joint exercises, the Corps has been practicing the ability to shoot weapons from one platform and guide them from another. It has done so “with great success,” Wise said. “But there’s some work still to do.”

In a contested environment, Marines want to have multiple pathways to transmit data between sensors and weapon systems such as loitering munitions and long-range fires.

“What we’re trying to do on the acquisition side is making sure that we look at all those new capabilities and we integrate those with the naval force … utilizing legacy systems throughout the process — and making sure that we’re integrating [all of] those capabilities across the battlespace,” Williford said.

Brig. Gen. David Odom, director of expeditionary warfare, N95, compared the Corps to a Swiss Army knife that must provide capabilities across the spectrum of conflict.

Williford noted that Marines are getting new equipment to make them more lethal and survivable. That includes: an enhanced combat helmet system with better communications capabilities; squad monocular night vision goggles; the M27 infantry automatic rifle; an enhanced 5.56 round; new suppressors; and Carl Gustaf multipurpose anti-armor/anti-personnel weapon systems.

However, in many cases Marines may find themselves in a supporting role rather than as trigger pullers.

“Marines all want to be out there slinging lead, they want to be out there dropping targets,” Smith said. “We have not gone away from that.”

However, “when you’re talking about a pacing threat, our largest contribution may be that we sense and make sense of what’s going on and that we gain and maintain custody of targets and pass that data to the naval and Joint Force,” he said. “We may do that more than we prosecute targets, because that’s how the Joint Force goes after a pacing threat. We are not going after … a peer competitor solo. That is not the future.”

An example of how the Marine Corps could support its sister services is by employing anti-ship missiles from mobile, ground-based platforms that are difficult to locate. Such weapons, at a cost of about $1.7 million, could sink a $2 billion enemy warship and contribute to “sea denial” operations, Smith said.

Work is underway to bring that capability online. Oshkosh Defense’s Remotely Operated Ground Unit for Expeditionary Fires platform recently participated in sink-at-sea exercises known as SINKEX in Hawaii.

The company’s unmanned ROGUE Fires system leverages the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle’s off-road mobility and payload capacity and Oshkosh’s advanced autonomous vehicle technologies, the contractor said in a press release.

As part of the demonstration, a Navy-Marine Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System, based on a ROGUE Fires chassis, successfully launched a Naval Strike Missile and scored a direct hit on a target at sea, Oshkosh said.

“When you put a remotely operated ground unit expeditionary road vehicle … and the Naval Strike Missile together and you put it in the First Island Chain — good luck finding that [if you’re the enemy], because you won’t,” Smith said, referring to a strategic area in the Asia-Pacific theater. “You have to respect that if you’re a peer adversary. That is a game-changing capability for the combatant commander.”

Meanwhile, the Corps wants to upgrade the vessels that would be needed to transport Marines and their equipment.

“The development of a robust inventory of traditional amphibious ships, new light ships, alternate platforms and littoral connectors is required to create a true naval expeditionary stand-in-force and force-in-readiness,” Commandant Gen. David Berger said in a recent update to his planning guidance.

Senior leaders are exploring various options for the amphibious fleet structure and overall requirements, Odom said.

The sea services currently aim to acquire 35 new light amphibious warships, known as LAWs, to support other L-class vessels and Marine littoral regiments.

“We’ll need that organic lift, that maneuverability, that mobility and survivability inside the web” of adversaries’ targeting capabilities, Odom said.

Officials are looking at the connector fleet that carries troops from ship to shore. Landing craft utility and landing craft air cushion vehicles are aging, Odom noted. The Navy and Marine Corps want new LCUs and LCACs that are more capable and reliable.

The service is transitioning to a more advanced LPD Flight II amphibious transport dock, but Berger is already looking ahead at what comes next.

“It is also time to begin seeking a replacement for the LPD-17 Flight II whose fundamental design elements were conceived more than 25 years ago,” Berger wrote. “We must answer the question — what is LXX? While we do not have an answer to that question yet, we do know that the most lethal capability on a non-big deck amphibious ship of the future cannot be the individual Marine.”

Ashore, the Corps wants Marines to be more self-sufficient when forward deployed in austere locations. That requires being able to forage for food, purify water from local sources and use nontraditional energy technology.

“If you’re working on things that are small [such as] reverse-osmosis water purification units, you’re probably on the right track,” Smith told members of industry. “If you’re working on wearable power generation, solar power that can be used at scale by a unit that can power up squad radios, platoon radios — those kinds of things — you’re probably on the right track.”

Those types of capabilities would reduce dependence on logistics ships to move nonlethal materiel, thereby freeing up assets to move weapon systems and “bring more lethality” to the battlefield, he added.

Meanwhile, officials are keen on the potential of robotic systems and artificial intelligence to augment the force.

“With unmanned and AI, I think we’re sort of at the tip of the iceberg,” Odom said. Platforms and individual Marines can be equipped with such technologies, he noted.

“Right now, we’re starting to see a combined arms approach of both of those capabilities … which I think is a force multiplier for our fleet commanders,” he said.

To better prepare for a potential future battle against China, the Corps is looking to get rid of some legacy systems to free up money to buy new equipment that would be more relevant in that type of fight.

“You must divest of something to generate those assets, to then begin the process of experimenting, testing, procuring,” Smith said. “The sooner we accelerate that, the sooner we’ll get to where we need to be against the pacing threat.”

Smith noted that the Corps has taken a lot of heat over its decision to get rid of its tanks, but he argued those platforms wouldn’t have as much utility as other systems in a war against China.

“Hate the game, not the player,” he said. “I love tanks. They’re awesome. [But] they are not of the same value as long-range precision fires in the Indo-Pacific theater.”

To achieve Berger’s goals and vision for the future force, Smith said the Marine Corps needs sufficient funding from Congress for modernization and transformation.

“Doing this is going to be wicked hard for the next several years,” he said.

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine...arines-retooling-for-potential-war-with-china
 
U.S. is out of Afghanistan's sinkhole. The large military resources along with the massive amount of money can be funneled more appropriately, majority of which shall help develop capability to fight China. U.S said Russia and China are bigger threat rather than Terrorism and they mean it.

China should take note.
 
U.S. is out of Afghanistan's sinkhole. The large military resources along with the massive amount of money can be funneled more appropriately, majority of which shall help develop capability to fight China. U.S said Russia and China are bigger threat rather than Terrorism and they mean it.

China should take note.
Can't even win against peasant fighters living in caves with no ICBMs and air force despite those resources.
 
Can't even win against peasant fighters living in caves with no ICBMs and air force despite those resources.
Sub-Conventional (specifically Guerilla) Warfare is challenging for everyone. China is a major conventional threat and U.S while preparing for all domains will make advances on that front aggressively. China is going in right direction but it needs to off-set U.S. battle hardened, combat experience with superior discipline. The main advantage U.S. military has over China is war experience and institutional memory.
 
Sub-Conventional (specifically Guerilla) Warfare is challenging for everyone. China is a major conventional threat and U.S while preparing for all domains will make advances on that front aggressively. China is going in right direction but it needs to off-set U.S. battle hardened, combat experience with superior discipline. The main advantage U.S. military has over China is war experience and institutional memory.
Their main experience in the last 20+ years is against rag tag militia and third class armies. Near peer engagement is a different ball game.
 
USA government has no money and might shutdown for one month.
 
Can't even win against peasant fighters living in caves with no ICBMs and air force despite those resources.

If the Russians couldn't take on them what makes you think they can take on the U.S. Or if China couldn't take on Vietnamese peasants, what makes you think they can take on the U.S.?
Their main experience in the last 20+ years is against rag tag militia and third class armies. Near peer engagement is a different ball game.

Yes indeed. Just after Vietnam War there was the Gulf War. From peasant army to conventional army.
 
U.S. is out of Afghanistan's sinkhole. The large military resources along with the massive amount of money can be funneled more appropriately, majority of which shall help develop capability to fight China. U.S said Russia and China are bigger threat rather than Terrorism and they mean it.

China should take note.

China needs to build AC and Nuclear Submarines, Over sea bases and monitoring stations will help, but America still has the upper hand due to its Navy and Allies.
 
Can't even win against peasant fighters living in caves with no ICBMs and air force despite those resources.

Yup. If they can't beat a bunch of Talibunnies armed with rusty AK-47 they can't beat a state of the art army armed with HJ-12 missiles.
China needs to build AC and Nuclear Submarines, Over sea bases and monitoring stations will help, but America still has the upper hand due to its Navy and Allies.

I thought China cancelled 003 construction because spent all money on all those useless PCR tests?
 
Sub-Conventional (specifically Guerilla) Warfare is challenging for everyone. China is a major conventional threat and U.S while preparing for all domains will make advances on that front aggressively. China is going in right direction but it needs to off-set U.S. battle hardened, combat experience with superior discipline. The main advantage U.S. military has over China is war experience and institutional memory.
Unlike the Taliban, China can actually hit back with Nukes against the USA mainland.
If the Russians couldn't take on them what makes you think they can take on the U.S. Or if China couldn't take on Vietnamese peasants, what makes you think they can take on the U.S.?
Becuase the USSR and US military are just paper tigers who can't really deal in real total war like during WW2.
 
With $29 trillion debt hole, the U.S military can spend its way to an oblivion. Seems like the West is way too confident that it will come out victorious in a war against Russia and China. Quite the opposite will happen, since in a war against to giant powers like Russia and China, there will be no winners, only survivors. And the ones who will survive WW3, will be Russia and China, not the West and most certainly not america.
 
It takes two sides wanting to fight to enter a war. China will simply ignore US and watch it implode demographically from within. US can't force China to fight because China has capability of unlimited hydrogen nukes.
 
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