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The Associated Press: US Marines launch large offensive in Afghanistan

KABUL — U.S. Marines and Afghan troops on Friday launched the first offensive since President Barack Obama announced an American troop surge, striking against Taliban communications and supply lines in a southern insurgent stronghold, a military spokesman said.

Hundreds of troops from the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines and the Marine reconnaissance unit Task Force Raider were dropped by helicopter and MV-22 Osprey aircraft behind Taliban lines in the northern end of the Now Zad Valley of Helmand province, scene of heavy fighting last summer, according to Marine spokesman Maj. William Pelletier.

A U.S. military official in Washington said it was the first use of Ospreys, aircrafts that combine features of helicopters and fixed wing aircraft, in an offensive involving units larger than platoons.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to detail the operation, said that Ospreys have previously been used for intelligence and patrol operations.

A second, larger force pushed northward from the Marines' Forward Operating Base in the town of Now Zad, Pelletier said. Combat engineers were forcing a corridor through Taliban minefields with armored steamrollers and explosives, Pelletier said.

In all, about 1,000 Marines as well as Afghan troops were taking part in the operation, known as "Cobra's Anger," he said.

There were no reports of NATO casualties. The spokesman for the Afghan governor of Helmand province, Daood Ahmadi, said the bodies of four slain Taliban had been recovered. Ahmadi said 150 Afghan troops were taking part in the operation, which had located more than 300 mines and roadside bombs by Friday evening.

The operation began three days after Obama announced that he was sending 30,000 reinforcements to Afghanistan to help turn the tide against the Taliban. America's European allies will send an estimated 7,000 more troops to Afghanistan next year "with more to come," NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen announced Friday.

Most of the new troops are expected to be sent to southern Afghanistan, including Helmand, where Taliban influence is strongest.

The new offensive aims to cut off the Taliban communication routes through Helmand and disrupt their supply lines, especially those providing explosives for the numerous lethal roadside bombs, or improvised explosive devices, that litter the area, known by Marines as "IED Alley."

Pelletier said several arms caches and at least 400 pounds of explosive materials had been found so far Friday.

"Right now, the enemy is confused and disorganized," Pelletier said by telephone from Camp Leatherneck, the main Marines base in Helmand. "They're fighting, but not too effectively."

Pelletier said insurgents were caught off guard by the early morning air assault.

Now Zad used to be one of the largest towns in Helmand province, the center of Afghanistan's lucrative opium poppy growing industry.

However, three years of fighting have chased away Now Zad's 30,000 inhabitants, leaving the once-thriving market and commercial area a ghost town.

British troops who were once stationed there left graffiti dubbing the town "Apocalypse Now-Zad," a play on the title of the 1979 Vietnam War movie Apocalypse Now. The British base was nearly overrun on several occasions with insurgents coming within yards (meters) of the protection wall. The area was handed over in 2008 to the Marines, who have struggled to reclaim much of the valley.

In August, the Marines launched their first large-scale offensive in the barren, wind-swept and opium-poppy growing valley surrounded by steep cliffs with dozens of caves providing cover to Taliban units.

More than 100 hardline insurgents are believed to operate in the area, their positions so solid that a fixed frontline runs just a few hundred yards (meters) north of the Marines' base, according to Associated Press reporters who were with the Marines there last summer.

Associated Press Writers Amir Shah in Kabul and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.
 
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All the US can do best is give fancy names to their task forces, fancy names to the operation and test new equipment, nothing else. 2 or 3 weeks operation, then will go back to base and taliban would be back.

Pathetic Show Off.
 
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All the US can do best is give fancy names to their task forces, fancy names to the operation and test new equipment, nothing else. 2 or 3 weeks operation, then will go back to base and taliban would be back.

Pathetic Show Off.
Let's give them the same chance we gave our boys, if its different this time around and they do manage to finally take Helmand and keep it, it will be a big blow the spirits of the Taliban.

Nowzad is pretty important if the Taliban are to be blocked off their supply lines. The Nato forces have been trying to take control of the valley since 2006 and have suffered heavy losses in the form of men and territory. Admittedly there were British troops in action before and now a much larger force of American marines are going to give it a shot.

They too have been losing or at best maintaining a stalemate. Its the best place to start off the Obama surge from. This could be the Swat for the US forces and give them the momentum needed for the war.
 
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Let's give them the same chance we gave our boys, if its different this time around and they do manage to finally take Helmand and keep it, it will be a big blow the spirits of the Taliban.
What of they are only interested to take the orphans of war for building sucide bombers against Pakistan.
Organs from captured civilians will also generate lot of revenue for indian doctors and boost to indian surgical instrument industry.
Where is free press? why is UN army not operating?
 
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Its just mercinaries logging in contract hours 300$/hour , and American tax payers are paying the bills -

They don't need 300.000 troops for capturing sheap herders
 
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What is it this time? Operation Cannot Possibly Fail or Operation Cannot Possibly Fail Second Time? Killer.

:pakistan:
Operation Cobra's Anger.

The previous operation in the region was Operation Khanjar (or Strike of the Sword as translated by the US - It should be more like Operation Dagger)

Something from wikipedia: Operation Strike of the Sword - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Strike of the Sword or Operation Khanjar was a US-led offensive in Helmand province in southern Afghanistan. About 4,000 Marines from the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade as well as 650 Afghan troops were involved, supported by NATO planes. The operation began when units moved into the Helmand River valley in the early hours of July 2, 2009. This operation was the largest Marine offensive since the battle of Fallujah, Operation Phantom Fury, in 2004.[8] The operation was also the biggest offensive airlift by the Marines since the Vietnam War.[9]
The Marines pushed into primarily three significant towns along a 75-mile stretch of the Helmand River valley south of Lashkar Gah. At least two Marine infantry battalions and one Marine Light Armored Reconnaissance (LAR) battalion spearheaded the operation. In the north, 2nd Battalion, 8th Marines (2/8) pushed into Garmsir district. In central Helmand, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines (1/5) pushed into Nawa-I-Barakzayi to the south of Lashkar Gah, 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion (2nd LAR) entered Khanashin in the Khan Neshin district.[10][11][12]

The rest of it is worth the read.

30,000 may not be enough as well. They need a swarm, not just a surge. Previously the US was successful in fighting the Taliban here to the limit of pushing back the front lines but that just resulted in the Taliban occupying territory elsewhere.

Also the influx of fighters does not stop.

There is cause for concern for Pakistan too. Earlier this year we have had to blockade our stretch of the border adjoining Helmand to prevent big time terrorists from crossing over. It endangered our own operations in Pakistan from which troops had to be pulled out.

When Gillani complains about the troop surge, hes presenting a very valid point. The US needs to use the troop surge to also prevent soldiers from just shifting here n there.
 
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All the US can do best is give fancy names to their task forces, fancy names to the operation and test new equipment, nothing else. 2 or 3 weeks operation, then will go back to base and taliban would be back.

Pathetic Show Off.
Yes...It is quite pathetic that the Taliban would withdraw from the fields for 2-3 weeks out of fear of our fancy names. May be the Taliban should come up with even more fanciful and fearsome names for their operations and see how frightened US Marines can be.
 
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Yes...It is quite pathetic that the Taliban would withdraw from the fields for 2-3 weeks out of fear of our fancy names. May be the Taliban should come up with even more fanciful and fearsome names for their operations and see how frightened US Marines can be.

Cat and mouse game
When the cat comes out, the mouse hides and when the cat goes back mouse is out. mouse has learnt to survive. :coffee:
 
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Cat and mouse game
When the cat comes out, the mouse hides and when the cat goes back mouse is out. mouse has learnt to survive. :coffee:

Talaban are playing bull fighting with US , bull is now angry and exhausted that why operation named "cobra anger" .

What is the end of bull we all know very well:D
 
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i prefer the cat and mouse analogy better than the bullfighting one
 
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cat is coming out wasting its energy accomplishing nothing whilst the mouse goes back to replenish energy , once the cat goes back then the mouse will come out to strengthen its body for food , so that the end will soon be met for the game......
 
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cat is coming out wasting its energy accomplishing nothing whilst the mouse goes back to replenish energy , once the cat goes back then the mouse will come out to strengthen its body for food , so that the end will soon be met for the game......

But in the end the mouse usually ends up as cat food.
 
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