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US intensifies its control over Pakistan's new civilian government

by Waseem Shehzad
(Sunday, May 11, 2008)

"What Pakistan is suffering today is the direct result of Musharraf’s policies. Perhaps never before in its history has Pakistan been so vulnerable."

Getting on the wrong side of the US involves great risks, but being its friend is no less dangerous. No country proves this better than Pakistan. Since its creation, successive Pakistani regimes have attempted to cultivate close links with Washington. The result has been an unmitigated disaster: today Pakistan is on the verge of disintegration, thanks to the stifling embrace of the US, especially since 9/11, and to Washington’s deliberate attempts to undermine the country. Pakistani rulers, especially retired General Pervez Musharraf, the current president, claim that they have a close alliance with the US and its so-called war on terror. That most Pakistanis view it as a war of terror is a separate issue, but the fact is that there is mounting evidence that the US has been trying to destabilize Pakistan even while claiming to be its friend.

Even apart from the unequal relationship--Pakistan is a third world country, while the US claims to be the world’s “sole superpower”--there is something peculiar about the manner in which Washington demonstrates its “friendship” toward Pakistan. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents prowl Pakistani cities and towns freely. Many are Pakistanis recruited by both US intelligence agencies; their activities have resulted in the arrest and abduction of scores of Pakistanis and others to such destinations as Guantanamo Bay, Bagram Airbase and other places where torture is rampant. Musharraf himself admits in his book, In the Line of Fire (pub. 2006), that he and several of his top officials have collected millions in bounties from the US for apprehending al-Qa’ida “members” and “sympathizers”.

It is, however, at a more fundamental level that US policy toward Pakistan is fraught with peril. On April 14, US president George Bush said in a TV interview that a future “9/11 kind of attack” would most probably emanate from Pakistan, not Afghanistan. He specifically alluded to Pakistan’s tribal region, where US forces are already operating without publicly admitting it. Musharraf is too cowardly to admit that he has been bullied into accepting humiliating conditions by the US, his so-called personal friendship with Bush notwithstanding.

Bush’s threatening remarks followed articles in Pakistani newspapers Jang and News International in March, reporting that the US had put forward a long list of demands that were so demeaning that even the Pakistani foreign and defence ministries found them unacceptable. Exposing its true intent since the so-called war on terror was launched, Washington has demanded direct access to Pakistan’s Nuclear Command Authority (NCA), the body that controls the country’s nuclear weapons. To show that it will not take “no” for an answer, Washington has posted an officer at its embassy in Islamabad to liaise with the NCA. Other demands include allowing US personnel to enter Pakistan on the basis of national identity (such as a driver’s licence), foregoing visas and passports; accepting US licences, including arms licences, in Pakistan; US personnel being allowed to bear arms and wear their uniform in Pakistan; and exemption of American personnel from Pakistani law if they commit a crime. There are close parallels between these demands and those that were imposed on Iran during the Shah’s rule, which led ultimately to the Islamic Revolution in Iran (1978-79).

On April 8, Musharraf claimed that if he were removed as president, the US would attack Pakistan and take control of its nuclear assets. He insisted he was the only one preventing a US attack; so much for the friendship that Musharraf has boasted of throughout his eight years in power. When he surrendered to the US on the basis of a single phone call on September 12, 2001, he had claimed that by doing so, he had “saved” Pakistan’s nuclear assets as well as strengthened the cause of the Kashmiris’ demand for self-determination. He further stated that he had to sacrifice the Taliban in order to safeguard Pakistan’s “national interests”. Now he insists that he must stay as president otherwise the US will attack Pakistan.

But US forces already regularly target civilians inside Pakistan. Hundreds have been killed in air strikes. Washington has also forced Pakistan to deploy its own troops--100,000 of them--in the border region to fight against their people. The Pakistan army has been even more ruthless than the Americans, killing thousands of villagers. This has created immense resentment among the tribesmen, who are forced to fight back. The net result is that people in Pakistan’s tribal region are now in open revolt against the Pakistan army and government. They consider the Pakistan army (not without some justification) as a mercenary force serving the US and waging a war on its behalf.

Creating mistrust between Pakistani tribesmen and the central government in Islamabad is part of the US’s policy. Despite its public pronouncements to the contrary, the US harbours deep animosity toward Pakistan; indeed, toward its very existence. Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are the primary reason for this policy in Washington and for its zionist allies, both at home and in Tel Aviv. Westerners resent any Muslim country possessing the wherewithal to master nuclear technology. The US’s targeting of Iran is part of the same policy.

Some American political and military analysts reveal their true intentions toward Pakistan by their statements and writings. In July 2006, for instance, a retired colonel, writing in the US Army Journal, outlined a possible scenario for the break-up of Pakistan. He suggested that the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) should be separated and joined with Afghanistan to make a “greater Pakhtunistan”; that the Pakistani side of Baluchistan and that of Iran should be made into a separate country, while Sindh province should be absorbed into India, leaving the Punjab as a rump Pakistani state. Whether this diabolical plot will materialize is a different matter; what it is important to note is that US planners have long been thinking in such terms about Pakistan’s future, despite claiming to be its friends and to be partners in the “war on terror”.

What we should be asking is why the US is so keen to destroy Pakistan. Baluchistan offers a good starting point. The province is important for a number of reasons. At a stroke the US would achieve several objectives. Making the Pakistani and Irani Baluchistans into a new entity called “greater Baluchistan” would give the US enormous political, geo-strategic and economic weight in the region. Gwadar, Pakistan’s brand new deep-water port, is in Baluchistan; it is barely 50 kilometres (about 30 miles) from the entrance to the Persian Gulf. More importantly, it is being constructed with Chinese assistance and will offer Beijing direct access to the warm waters of the Indian Ocean as well as the Persian Gulf and the Middle East. If the Americans take control of the port, that will undermine Chinese plans for development and access to the Persian Gulf and Middle Eastern oil. Gwadar is also an important access route to Central Asia, whose rich oil and gas reserves both China and the US covet. Part of US strategy involves containing the rising economic and military power of China. This can best be achieved by depriving Beijing of access to energy resources. The propaganda war in Darfur is part of the same policy because China has signed a number of contracts with Sudan for oil-exploration.

On both sides of the Pakistan-Iran border, the US is financing separatist groups in Baluchistan. On the Irani side a group operating under the inappropriate name Jundallah (“army of God” in Arabic) is financed and armed by the Americans to undermine the Islamic government in Iran. The group came into existence in early 2006, after a drug-smuggler was killed in a gun-battle with Irani security forces. The brother of this smuggler, also a gangster, could not possibly have mobilized people to fight for the “rights” of gangsters to smuggle drugs. Instead, he has tried to whip up Shi‘a-Sunni discord by alleging that the Sunnis of Baluchistan are being discriminated against because the central government in Tehran is based on “Shi‘a ideology”. The US provides logistical and other support to this gang of drug-smuggling criminals. Groups operating under the same name elsewhere have been branded by the US as terrorist organizations, but because the Baluchi Jundallah are fighting the Islamic government in Iran they are backed and financed by Washington. The Baluch separatist groups on the Pakistani side also enjoy the support of a number of foreign governments, including the US, Britain and India. In fact, in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province, the British are more deeply involved than their American cousins.

Baluch grievances--real or imagined--have been further exacerbated by the ill-conceived policies of Musharraf, whose simplistic understanding of political issues and easy resort to brute force have muddied the situation even more. The killing in 2006 of Sardar Akbar Bugti, a Baluchi tribal leader, is a case in point. While Bugti was not exactly a poster-sardar for democracy or human rights, the manner of his killing in a missile strike made worse an already tense situation. Another tribe was needlessly turned against the government when in fact Sardar Bugti had all along played the political game within rules set by the establishment. But Musharraf’s inflated ego and self-importance led him to perpetrate murder, thus creating another enemy in a volatile border region.

The situation in the NWFP has been mishandled similarly, and tribes are up in arms in various parts of the province. Whether it is the two Waziristans, or Dir and Swat, the army is fighting its own people and killing without regard for the impact of such actions on the thinking of people. There is widespread belief in Pakistan, including among many officials, that the rash of suicide bombings was perpetrated by agents working for the US, India and Afghan intelligence agencies. Another body of opinion maintains that even Musharraf’s backers were involved in these criminal activities as part of a deliberate policy to convince the Americans that, without Musharraf at the helm of affairs, the country’s nuclear assets would fall into the hands of the “fundamentalists”. The manner in which the Americans have continued to support Musharraf would suggest that he has succeeded to a large extent, although Pakistan’s new rulers are beginning to show some inclination to stand up to the Americans. Whether this will last is debatable; Pakistan’s ruling classes have seldom shown much backbone, preferring to surrender the country’s interests for personal ends.

There are indications that some parts of the ruling coalition are already kowtowing to the Americans. Asif Zardari, head of the People’s Party, frequently visits the US embassy in Islamabad to meet ambassador Anne Patterson or other officials visiting from the US. One is constrained to ask: why has the US embassy become such a favoured pilgrimage site for Zardari and his associates? Madam ambassador, on the other hand, travelled to London last month to meet Altaf Husain, head of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), a fascist outfit that has gained notoriety for torturing opponents to death. There are at least 40 murder cases pending against Altaf Husain himself, yet he has been granted political asylum in Britain, and even become a British citizen. It may be a coincidence, but a day after ambassador Patterson’s meeting with Altaf Husain, members of the MQM attacked a building in Karachi and burnt alive seven people, five of them lawyers deemed opposed to the MQM, to death. This “civilized” behaviour evoked little or no protest from the champions of human rights and their governments in the West.

It is, however, at the opposite end of the country, in the north, that Pakistan faces a threat to its very existence. Pakistan’s archenemy, India, has established a string of consulates in Afghan cities bordering Pakistan. Because there are few Indian citizens in Afghanistan, much less in cities like Jalalabad or Qandahar, one must wonder what the function of these consulates is. It is clear that these consulates are infested with agents from India’s premier intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), whose main task is the destabilization of Pakistan. This is now being done from Afghanistan as well. Thus, India is squeezing Pakistan from both the east and the west, thanks to Musharraf’s foolish policies since 911.

It also demonstrates the ingratitude of the Afghans, millions of whom are still in Pakistani refugee-camps, which have now become permanent towns. They arrived in the late seventies when the Red Army invaded. Successive Afghan governments have taken Pakistan for granted, despite 85 percent of Afghanistan’s foreign trade going through Pakistan. If the latter were to block Afghan goods from moving through its territory, the people of landlocked Afghanistan would starve. Yet its US-backed rulers are busy creating chaos and mayhem in Pakistan. But that is not new; those who do not think through their policies generally invite trouble.

What Pakistan is suffering today is the direct result of Musharraf’s policies. Perhaps never before in its history has Pakistan been so vulnerable. It is hemmed in from both the east and the west; American forces are operating freely in Pakistan and Washington’s rulers are openly threatening to take direct control of its nuclear weapons. With nearly 30,000 American troops in Afghanistan, hundreds of US Special Forces personnel operating in the tribal regions and hundreds of CIA and FBI agents crawling all over the country, Pakistan is as much occupied by the US as is Afghanistan. In fact, Afghans can claim some degree of freedom because they have not lost the will to resist. At least 12 of Afghanistan’s 32 provinces are outside US and Afghan government control. In Pakistan, there is no such will to resist or seek independence from the deathly embrace of Uncle Sam.

Washington, meanwhile, appears determined to destroy Pakistan in the name of friendship. With friends like this, it is obvious that Pakistan does not need its enemies.
 

US intensifies its control over Pakistan's new civilian government

by Waseem Shehzad
(Sunday, May 11, 2008)

Washington, meanwhile, appears determined to destroy Pakistan in the name of friendship. With friends like this, it is obvious that Pakistan does not need its enemies.


Just curious what are you doing studying in the land of the Enemy ?

Regards
 
A great propoganda but not enough. I am an american Pakistani and let me tell you one thing. Where ever US troops goes these demands goes and then have been excepted by all the places where ever USA have went so get it right. All those seven demands weren't new just for Pakistan!!!!! You talking about sep 12 2001??!!! I bet you any Prime minister or president of Pakistan of that time would have done the same no matter how much you try to say NO!!!!. Look around you boy all that you see in Pakistan has been given by most from this goverment!!!. Get things right go back in the history look what india was offering to USA in 2001 check what were the chances for Pakistan to say NO and avoid the attack from USA. Check who and who was ready to attack Pakistan along USA. Talk is ez and actions are hard in this world. Your kind of people make me sick to the stomic!!! You must be living in la la land lmfao!!!!!!!!!
 

US intensifies its control over Pakistan's new civilian government

by Waseem Shehzad
(Sunday, May 11, 2008)


The Baluch separatist groups on the Pakistani side also enjoy the support of a number of foreign governments, including the US, Britain and India. In fact, in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province, the British are more deeply involved than their American cousins.

Why would UK destablise your country ? Do you have any proof ? The author is ready to sell his soul to China but if Gen M does the same to the US he is a traitor.

Regards
 
Why would UK destablise your country ? Do you have any proof ? The author is ready to sell his soul to China but if Gen M does the same to the US he is a traitor.

Regards


Why not? Nobody except Pakistan and to an extent China have an interest in a stable Balochistan firmly controlled by a Pakistani govt.
 
Just curious what are you doing studying in the land of the Enemy ?

Regards

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I am studying in canada not US...

land of the enemy... lol.

Yeah well u were telling me some day how US was responsible f4 ravaging afghanistan during the soviet war and using pakistan for its interests. I agree with you there and I think this war on terror is the americans war where they have dragged us in... now our people are being killed and our cities are unsafe from those asshole terrorists.

Everyone knows how untrustworthy the Americans are so theres no point discussing....
 
^^^How nice. The US gave you a good education, perhaps a job, treated you fairly and welcomed you to stay there.

And you regard US as your enemy.

Is this a common sentiment among muslims in the west, or are people like you a tiny minority?
 
A great propoganda but not enough. I am an american Pakistani and let me tell you one thing. Where ever US troops goes these demands goes and then have been excepted by all the places where ever USA have went so get it right. All those seven demands weren't new just for Pakistan!!!!! You talking about sep 12 2001??!!! I bet you any Prime minister or president of Pakistan of that time would have done the same no matter how much you try to say NO!!!!. Look around you boy all that you see in Pakistan has been given by most from this goverment!!!. Get things right go back in the history look what india was offering to USA in 2001 check what were the chances for Pakistan to say NO and avoid the attack from USA. Check who and who was ready to attack Pakistan along USA. Talk is ez and actions are hard in this world. Your kind of people make me sick to the stomic!!! You must be living in la la land lmfao!!!!!!!!!

Are you american first or Pakistani? Decide and let me know. So defensive about America??? Looks like ur mother was raped in Pakistan so she ran off there...

It was'nt september 12 it was september 11. What are you talking about? Did I say what the president did was wrong?

These are my videos on terrorism. Now u seriosly are that dim witted to think i am a supporter of these fuckers?:

EBX4BQH5csg[/media] - Terrorism in Pakistan (Enemies of Islam & Pakistan)
lMXoYSSUd6k[/media] - Tribute to Pakistans Shaheeds who fought Terrorist Kuffars

I was reading this article and copy-pasted it here. They may or may not represent my entire views. Is there a problem? The author is certainly right about one thing. USA uses its power to subdue other nations and bully them. Can they be trusted as a freind? No! Can they be trusted for doing right to the people that stood by them in their War On Terror? No and this is proven in the Vietnam war, afghanistan and countless other situations where they abandoned their allies. Once their purpose is complete the country goes down the drain. Same thing is happening here.

And if you look at figures you will find out more of us Pakistanis have been killed than americans in this war on terror. Suicide bombing murder, **** it those terroristic assholes did'nt leave a single thing... but is'nt this USA's war?

Why are we being attacked? My people are dying everyday and the law and order situation has gone to hell. What the **** have we to do with USA's arrognace?

And US does have intentions for a weaker Pakistan. Did you forget the maps discarded by the CIA where Punjab is all that is left of Pakistan? Sindh is Sindhu Des, NWFP is pashtunistan and balochistan is part of Iran. Now definately that was from the time of the Shah but now situation has changed with Iran possibl going nuclear. Surely they have other plans. US has a reputation as being extremely untrustworthy. Calling them a freind is suicide. If you notice this is exactly whats going on. In Pakistan where there were 1-2 suicide attacks in a month now there are 20-30 in that same month?

If i had a choice i would drain these terrorists down blood and bone and tear them apart, that is if i could find them. The bastards have killed our people and i have lost some freinds to them. Death is just a normal thing for me now but it must be understood that US is not an ally. They have created a mess wherever they have gone. Iraq has gone to hell, Afghanistan a war is going on... why are they interfering in the world syria iran china. Is there anyone they leave alone? Then the people of other nations suffer the consequenses of their idiotic actions. There was this boy in paktia i remember whose house and family was bombed by american forces in the invasion of Afghanistan. Is it not natural this boy who saw his family dying will hate America? Now when this kid grows up to be a terrorist Americans don't send their GIs but afghans to deal with him. Who dies? Afghans. Same is the case in Pakistan. We should stop relying on artillery and air bombardment so much anyway as they have always had same effect of feeling of alienation amongst our people.

Anyway I cannot bear to wake up in the mother ******* morning and see news of 24 people dead due to a little terrorist **** who could'nt deal with the fact we aren't Americans.
 
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^^^How nice. The US gave you a good education, perhaps a job, treated you fairly and welcomed you to stay there.

And you regard US as your enemy.

Is this a common sentiment among muslims in the west, or are people like you a tiny minority?

A common sentiment today is we are dragging ourselves further and further into a war that is not our responsibility. We don't want our kids to die in bomblasts or shot dead in the street by being a part of it. Enough is enough. The use of force to deal with issues like these is off. We should use talks and if force then find out who the **** is supplying the terrorists with bombs and ammunition cauz how the hell did they get so powerful so suddenly. We used to have 1-2 suicide attacks each month and that increases to 15-30? There is definately something wrong here. Are majority of Pakistanis so fanatical that they will start killing their own people in the name of religion and break the rules of that religion for it?

The terroristic bastards no doubt deserve the worst possible death that we can give them. They are sub human creatures and animals at the least. I really believe that if there is a chance to eliminate assholes like Fazlullah and Mehsud covertly then f4 godsake do it and pay them back f4 the hundreds and thousands they have slain. We just don't want to be slaughtered the way we were in India.
 
Are you american first or Pakistani? Decide and let me know. So defensive about America??? Looks like ur mother was raped in Pakistan so she ran off there...

It was'nt september 12 it was september 11. What are you talking about? Did I say what the president did was wrong?

These are my videos on terrorism. Now u seriosly are that dim witted to think i am a supporter of these fuckers?:

EBX4BQH5csg[/media] - Terrorism in Pakistan (Enemies of Islam & Pakistan)
lMXoYSSUd6k[/media] - Tribute to Pakistans Shaheeds who fought Terrorist Kuffars

I was reading this article and copy-pasted it here. They may or may not represent my entire views. Is there a problem? The author is certainly right about one thing. USA uses its power to subdue other nations and bully them. Can they be trusted as a freind? No! Can they be trusted for doing right to the people that stood by them in their War On Terror? No and this is proven in the Vietnam war, afghanistan and countless other situations where they abandoned their allies. Once their purpose is complete the country goes down the drain. Same thing is happening here.

And if you look at figures you will find out more of us Pakistanis have been killed than americans in this war on terror. Suicide bombing murder, **** it those terroristic assholes did'nt leave a single thing... but is'nt this USA's war?

Why are we being attacked? My people are dying everyday and the law and order situation has gone to hell. What the **** have we to do with USA's arrognace?

And US does have intentions for a weaker Pakistan. Did you forget the maps discarded by the CIA where Punjab is all that is left of Pakistan? Sindh is Sindhu Des, NWFP is pashtunistan and balochistan is part of Iran. Now definately that was from the time of the Shah but now situation has changed with Iran possibl going nuclear. Surely they have other plans. US has a reputation as being extremely untrustworthy. Calling them a freind is suicide. If you notice this is exactly whats going on. In Pakistan where there were 1-2 suicide attacks in a month now there are 20-30 in that same month?

If i had a choice i would drain these terrorists down blood and bone and tear them apart, that is if i could find them. The bastards have killed our people and i have lost some freinds to them. Death is just a normal thing for me now but it must be understood that US is not an ally. They have created a mess wherever they have gone. Iraq has gone to hell, Afghanistan a war is going on... why are they interfering in the world syria iran china. Is there anyone they leave alone? Then the people of other nations suffer the consequenses of their idiotic actions. There was this boy in paktia i remember whose house and family was bombed by american forces in the invasion of Afghanistan. Is it not natural this boy who saw his family dying will hate America? Now when this kid grows up to be a terrorist Americans don't send their GIs but afghans to deal with him. Who dies? Afghans. Same is the case in Pakistan. We should stop relying on artillery and air bombardment so much anyway as they have always had same effect of feeling of alienation amongst our people.

Anyway I cannot bear to wake up in the mother ******* morning and see news of 24 people dead due to a little terrorist **** who could'nt deal with the fact we aren't Americans.

Man you have just crossed the limites by calling on me about my mother being raped and running to USA. " Son i feel like coming to your house and smash your head in your own back yard" I didnt even say a word about your mother or i didnt even bring your family into this forum. Even though i can still curse the living shiiit out of your here and your familiy's but i will keep a difference! Well you asked me if i am american or Pakistani ? so here is the answer Both i would never want see Pakistan going down but i would never want an attack on US civilians....... I tell you one thing for future my man!!! Watch what you say on this forum because you just made an assss of yourself here. All i said was this entire artical is a propaganda and i get sick to my stomic with this kind of BS that is it. You just showed how ignorent you could be by calling on an elderly women being raped and ran away to USA. May Allah judge you for this. Peace! and yeh all i want in this world is Peace. But your kind of people can never stop agitating others.:guns::sniper::pakistan::usflag::angry:
 
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Man you have just crossed the limites by calling on me about my mother being raped and running to USA. " Son i feel like coming to your house and smash your head in your own back yard" I didnt even say a word about your mother or i didnt even bring your family into this forum. Even though i can still curse the living shiiit out of your here and your familiy's but i will keep a difference! Well you asked me if i am american or Pakistani ? so here is the answer Both i would never want see Pakistan going down but i would never want an attack on US civilians....... I tell you one thing for future my man!!! Watch what you say on this forum because you just made an assss of yourself here. All i said was this entire artical is a propaganda and i get sick to my stomic with this kind of BS that is it. You just showed how ignorent you could be by calling on an elderly women being raped and ran away to USA. May Allah judge you for this. Peace! and yeh all i want in this world is Peace. But your kind of people can never stop agitating others.:guns::sniper::pakistan::usflag::angry:

Man I am sorry but these are difficult times for us. Our people are being killed and its only natural everyone will be worked up. Also using youtube spoils a person:

Much of the unrest was fueled by al-Qaeda's "chaos strategy", which went into full swing after the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) operation last July when security forces stormed the hardline pro-Taliban mosque in Islamabad. By some reports, since then, Pakistan has had more suicide attacks than any other country in the world, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

True attacks on ANYONE should'nt happen but fact remains our Nation is facing a situation that we haven't faced in a long time... We aren't even at war with india and our people are being killed. Is this why we escaped indian oppression and mistreatment and came here? To be killed here?
 
How is the US intensifying its control over Pakistan?

The situation that Pakistan is in, is her own creation and no one forced them into this situation.

The Mujahideens and the Taliban were tools of Pakistan for good reasons of those times. However, once the Soviet regime was toppled, Pakistan abdicated its control and allowed the factions to run wild with Pakistan backing one or the other factions.

The Taliban gave Osama bi Laden refuge and Osama, through misplaced bravado and hallucination that he is a modern day Salladin (Sallah ud din) took on the might of the US - the very US, arms gave him and his goons the 'political' position he had acquired.

Had Osama bin Laden been turned in for the carnage he devastated, there would not have been this position. At this time, Pakistan did try some lukewarm counselling but she by now lost her control totally over the so called Taliban govt.

The inevitable happened. The US unleashed the war on terror against the AQ and the so called Afghan govt of that time.

It is a moot point if OBL was given refuge on the borders or not. The war spilled over into the western reaches of Pakistan.

It is all very easy to blame Musharraf. He was in a bind. As a Mos.lem, he could not fight Mos.lems and yet the nexus between the Talibans and the core group operating out of NWFP (which was also the logistic and reinforcement base against the Soviets and so there were enough contacts and sympathisers) was turning Pakistan into an inferno. These Taliban has also started operating from mainland Pakistan. There was good reasons for Musharraf to believe that things could turn into total lawlessness and chaos in Pakistan.

At the same time, Pakistan had been ostracised by the world community since Musharraf was taken to be a leader of a coup, ruling Pakistan with a military junta. There was talk of declaring Pakistan as a rogue state. The economy was in a shamble and was on the verge of collapsing and Pakistan becoming a failed state.

Therefore, what options did Musharraf have except to align Paksitan with the US and obviously it meant giving concessions? This alignment with the sole global superpower opened up the IMF and WB cofffers and the much needed military aid (to keep her Eastern border safe).

It is fine to find faults with Musharraf, but he guided Pakistan out of a crisis of statehood, even though it infuriated the fundamentalist, who then took on the govt resulting in the suicide bombings etc. Indeed, for this fundamentalists suicide bombing and creating mayhem was an old trick, which they had practised in Kashmir and they had been trained by the ISI and were even being supported by old hands like Hamid Gul. It will be remembered that Yasin Malik of the Hurriyat created a serious gaffe and spilt the beans by stating that the terrorists were given shelter and training at the farm of the Information and Broadcasting Minister and how grateful Yasin was to him!

It is an old hat to blame the RAW. Even if taken for argument's sake, would the ISI become a Jesus Christ and turn the other cheek if it nation were being infested by terrorists by a foreign nation.

Patriotism aside, one should realise that the evil perpetuated by Zia is merely visiting Pakistan and it is of no use to blame the US or anyone else alone!

What Pakistan has to do is quit self flaggelating itself and instead take control by using all help feasible to rid itself of the cancer that has seized her!

There is no idea of crying over spilt milk and instead brace up and take the bull by the horns!

There is a new govt in Pakistan now and surely they are capable of standing up to the US and if indeed, they can't, then there is something serious mismatch of govts and the aspirations of the people and the US can't be blamed for that!
 
Man I am sorry but these are difficult times for us. Our people are being killed and its only natural everyone will be worked up. Also using youtube spoils a person:



True attacks on ANYONE should'nt happen but fact remains our Nation is facing a situation that we haven't faced in a long time... We aren't even at war with india and our people are being killed. Is this why we escaped indian oppression and mistreatment and came here? To be killed here?

Dear Dimension 117,

People are being killed not because of the US only. There is a dichotomy in Pakistan policies and the people in the FATA area etc care more about the feudal system than about Pakistan. For long the Politicians of Pakistan have kept the ordinary people of Pakistan in darkness by manipulating PTV and keeping the attention on Kashmir and hence it comes as a big suprise to you now. Lastly I think you owe Moha an apology as there is no reason to make personal attacks on anybody's family.

Regards
 
Why not? Nobody except Pakistan and to an extent China have an interest in a stable Balochistan firmly controlled by a Pakistani govt.

Please provide proof that UK is interfering in Balochistan before mumbling some inane crap. Its Pakistan own shortsighted policies which gave rise to the problems there. First set your own house in order before you blame others.

Regards
 
:coffee:
I am studying in canada not US...

land of the enemy... lol.


Everyone knows how untrustworthy the Americans are so theres no point discussing....

Arn't Canadian troops in Afghanistan alongwith US Troops ?

Regards
 
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