US declares 'total war' on Islam

[ashokdeiva]

US has some how indirectly declared a war on Islam ,,,, By invading IRAQ and afganistan and killing the innocent people .
but sadly Most of the Muslim countries them self have become a US lobby .

Afganistan would have avoided the wrath of the Titan(USA) by handing over OBL to USA, they risked their people, their land and their rule just for one man which costed them too much also I don't think the Taliban has any moral to rule any on because in my eyes they are war lords with an organized structure who made its own people suffer like any thing.
Iraq was a mistake on the part of USA, I am sure that they have paid the price by belittling themself in this issue (IRAQ)

BUT this has nothing on declaring war on ISLAM

 

[King Solomon]

If USA has declared a war on Islam, it is an exercise in futility. Islam is not a political Philosophy, it is the religion of 25% of Humanity and their ranks are growing. The only loser in this battle will be the US and not the 50+ Islamic Nations. For a country that is going bankrupt, it would be suicidal to take on 50+ nations because Al Islam thrives on opposition and gets stronger when under threat.

ISLAM ZINDA HOTA HAI HIR KARBALA KAY BAAD.....

Are you sure about that? After extensive debating in the Hiroshima topic, it was held that if US wished it could nuke Mecca/Medina and go on a total war on Islam and Muslims won't be able to do anything. It would emerge as the clear victor.

The fact is that US is not at a "war on Islam". This philosophy was invented by Osama adn other radicals who thought that US was "leading a crusade" against Islam.

 

[Ulysses]

LMAO!! dang we are pretty evil huh *rolls eyes*

 

[fd24]

The war is with radical extremist terrorism, not Islam.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. What i don't agree with is the end result of how this is achieved. The number of innocent people that are lost in the name of "exterminating extremism" is my concern.
Who in their right mind sanctions extremism INCLUDING Muslims?
We must look carefully at the source and enzyme that encourages the views of extremists. However innocent persons losing lives should be a primary concern. Sadly lately the Americans show how little they seem to value the lives of Muslims.
Action speaks louder than words - and their words show crocodile tears and concerns

 

[lem34]

I do not see how people identify this as "war on islam".

If it was, wouldn't the first step of US be to evict/deport/persecute all Muslim citizens of US? Wouldn't this step be far easier than invading countries thousands of miles away assuming that US is indeed in a "war on Islam"?

What do we see? Most Muslims live far better in the US compared to their home country. They would rather live in US than go back to their home country.

The war is with radical extremist terrorism, not Islam.

An open admission of it would be unacceptable period even to their own public. as I said can you imagine justifying going to war for a big Mac.

The excuse is its a war on terror. But let me ask you what has been tried to win hearts and minds of Muslim. Something which would cost a lot less than the wars going around??

btw is there any factual inaccuracies in the OP do you think?

 

[curioususer]

strain of pressure is making iranians react hysterically.

 

[ashokdeiva]

An open admission of it would be unacceptable period even to their own public. as I said can you imagine justifying going to war for a big Mac.

The excuse is its a war on terror. But let me ask you what has been tried to win hearts and minds of Muslim. Something which would cost a lot less than the wars going around??

btw is there any factual inaccuracies in the OP do you think?

so if you were the president of USA, and some one blows the PENTOGON and you know who it is, you'll let go of him because he belongs to a perticular faith which has 25% of the global population.
The MUSLIMS should dis-associate themself to terrorism by not endorsing such fools like OBL. if you want some thing done in your nation, you have the right to do it in a peaceful way, you can not carry your hatred to another soil and blow a hole in the heart of the industrial capital killing 3000+ people just to prove your point.
OBL made the USA go mad, and OBL is a muslim and you should have shoot dead this rat before he threw a stone at GOLIAT and got the GOLIAT;s attention turned against every terror outfit that is radically motivated by the ISLAMIC idea of JIHAD.

Sorry, you have to blame yourself for the war you initiated

 

[Windjammer]

US declares 'total war' on Islam. !!

The following statistics show the growth of Islam in the world from (1989-1998):

North America: (25%)

Africa: (2.15%)

Asia: (12.57%)

Europe: (142.35%)

Latin America: (4.73%)

Australia: (257.01%)

With any luck, it will be a civil war.

 

[Rocky25]

US declares 'total war' on Islam. !!

The following statistics show the growth of Islam in the world from (1989-1998):

North America: (25%)

Africa: (2.15%)

Asia: (12.57%)

Europe: (142.35%)

Latin America: (4.73%)

Australia: (257.01%)

With any luck, it will be a civil war.

Wake up! There won't be any war!

 

[VCheng]

US declares 'total war' on Islam. !!

The following statistics show the growth of Islam in the world from (1989-1998):

North America: (25%)

Africa: (2.15%)

Asia: (12.57%)

Europe: (142.35%)

Latin America: (4.73%)

Australia: (257.01%)

With any luck, it will be a civil war.

Yes, I think all the NYC cab drivers will hook up with the Occupiers of Wall Street and the NATO protesters, and capture Washington!

Seriously though, Islam's rapid growth in the West clearly shows that there is no policy of targeting Islam per se, only extremist fundamentalism.

 

[somebozo]

More like US declares total defeat!

 

[gubbi]

I think it is important to distinguish the American regime which I think has gone rogue to the American people. I simply do not understand how we can call American govt a true representative of its people when all it's political leaders are scared of offending AIPAC and Israel. Simply the chances of getting elected fall dramatically without AIPAC support. Large amounts of money are required to launch a bid for say President etc and AIPAC have cornered the market.

It is the spoiled brat that is Israel in the polity of nations that is at the root of this and we see American govt falling into line with things which seem the norm for Israelis like the Sansom option to nuke all Muslim capitols

A BS article and source aside, this is the example of trying to justify ones blatant, undiluted, unjustified hatred behind the veneer of "distinguishing" between a "regime" and the "people". Just like anti-semites hide their hatred for Jews and Jewish faith by 'promoting' an awareness against the "Zionist entity" and "Zionism" but not against Israelis or Jews! Yeah, what a load of bollocks!
As for AIPAC, you give them too much importance, you people overestimate their "influence".

 

[Windjammer]

Wake up! There won't be any war!

Go to sleep since you didn't catch the drift of sarcasm.

 

[lem34]

A BS article and source aside, this is the example of trying to justify ones blatant, undiluted, unjustified hatred behind the veneer of "distinguishing" between a "regime" and the "people". Just like anti-semites hide their hatred for Jews and Jewish faith by 'promoting' an awareness against the "Zionist entity" and "Zionism" but not against Israelis or Jews! Yeah, what a load of bollocks!
As for AIPAC, you give them too much importance, you people overestimate their "influence".

Oh and now we have an Indian who clearly likes the idea of his country being a proxy nut not only that tries to censor anyone that believes thinks differently to him.

I reject your suggestions in any event for the avoidance of doubt.

Yes, I think all the NYC cab drivers will hook up with the Occupiers of Wall Street and the NATO protesters, and capture Washington!

Seriously though, Islam's rapid growth in the West clearly shows that there is no policy of targeting Islam per se, only extremist fundamentalism.

Well I would beg to differ. Muslims do have problems in the west. But it is very subtle and done in a subliminal way. Then we have apologists like you for them.

 

[King Solomon]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. What i don't agree with is the end result of how this is achieved. The number of innocent people that are lost in the name of "exterminating extremism" is my concern.
Who in their right mind sanctions extremism INCLUDING Muslims?
We must look carefully at the source and enzyme that encourages the views of extremists. However innocent persons losing lives should be a primary concern. Sadly lately the Americans show how little they seem to value the lives of Muslims.
Action speaks louder than words - and their words show crocodile tears and concerns

Yes, I agree with you that we must look at the source of the problem.

Now by analysing the 'source', we find that Muslims are the biggest enemies and killers of Muslims themselves.

Firstly let us look at Afghanistan. After the communist revolution in Afghanistan, the Muslim extremists started insurgency against the newly formed government, carrying out bombings and killing other Muslims. After that USSR was called in by the Muslim government. After ten years of insurgency against govt. officials, innocents and USSR troops and civilian officers, USSR got frustrated and left Afghanistan. Again, more Muslim extremists killing other Muslims. After that, civil war started and lasted 7 years. Hundreds of thousands were killed. Again, Muslims killing Muslims. Taliban comes to power, oppresses women, closes schools and lives primitive way of life. Once again, Muslims oppressing Muslims. After 9/11, NATO comes to Afghanistan after terrorist attack on twin towers killing 3000+ people after Taliban refused to hand over Osama. A national ANA army is formed with civilian bodies composed of local Muslims. Taliban insurgency targets these civilian bodies. Again, Muslims killing Muslims. At present, women and people have freedom in Afghanistan.

Let us look at Iraq now. Saddam comes to power. He starts the Iran Iraq war which leads to hundreds of thousands of people killed. Muslims killing Muslims. During the Gulf War, Muslim Arab countries ask for US help to protect themselves. US ONLY acted after it got the support of fellow Muslim countries. Again, overall, Muslims killing Muslims. After the war, US, with support of other Muslim countries, imposes crippling sanctions against Iraq. Would the sanctions have worked if not for the support of fellow Muslim nations? No! Again, Muslims killed some 1+ million muslims due to the sanctions. After that? US invades Iraq with the support of Iran and also other Arab nations.

In Libya, it was the Muslim Libyans who rose up against fellow Muslims and slaughtered tens of thousands of them. US only supported the Muslim Libyans against their regime. Again, Muslims killing Muslims.

If we analyse history, we will see that US NEVER intervenes in any Muslim country if not for the support of other Muslims. Why blame US military?

In that respect, I would support the US military in its war against Islamic extremism since this will purify Islam and clean it of extremism/fanaticism which has polluted this beautiful religion. Civilian casualties by US military in the form of collateral damage numbers not more than a few thousands. US is far, far, FAR better, peaceful and moderate than any dominant power the world has ever seen (mongols, British, French colonialism etc).