US committed to boosting Pakistan’s precision strike capability, Congress told

[Areesh]

bro we need to come out this worshiping of our armed forces , what ever they do is right , whatever they say is above Quran ... they have been selling Pakistan , compromising its national Security ..
look at the world around you, and look at Pakistan's Ability to Defend itself .. someday , someone have to make a Stand ..

No national interest is being compromised at least in this sale of F16. I am myself a big critic of military. You might seen me criticizing military. But believe me these sales are not compromising out national interest.

 

[rockstar08]

No national interest is being compromised at least in this sale of F16. I am myself a big critic of military. You might seen me criticizing military. But believe me these sales are not compromising out national interest.

things we ( bloody Civilians ) will never know, tell me how many Pakistani's know that Shamsi base was under US possession until the Salala incident ? Army is keeping secret and if they compromise anything , they will keep Pakistani Govt and People blind ... its fishy that we are bending too much for only 8 F-shola ...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

F16 coming soon!



They have to make halal of those PR funds..

sadly Indians didnt pay enough. looks like they tried to con the US lawmakers by paying them in Indian rupees.
anyway there is still time
if the Indians can pool some money and bribe the senators with some Bollywood thumkay then they might fight harder against F-16 deal

 

[EagleEyes]

It seems all Republicans are on sale these days, India has bought them, Israel has bought them. Why can't Pakistan buy them and get F-35 instead?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

look at the world around you, and look at Pakistan's Ability to Defend itself .. someday , someone have to make a Stand ..

rest assured it wont be you but people in Khaki

think of the difference between Pakistan with Afghanistan, Syria, iraq , Somalia and Libya..
their militaries were degraded and destoryed a narrative was built agaisnt them and people who were the loudest opponents got the biggest support and funding from those who wanted those countries destroyed.

same method was used here.. while we faught WOT, Indians have been trying to ambush us for over a decade, cold start, moving forces in the name on Mombai attack to name the few but it wasnt your PDF posting or Hamid Mir's talk show that stopped them..
understand that.

It seems all Republicans are on sale these days, India has bought them, Israel has bought them. Why can't Pakistan buy them and get F-35 instead?

looks like Indians used the wrong currency so the opposition was not strong enough.
the double slap to the hater is that we are not only getting those jets but also at the subsidized price that got to increase the demand for Barnol now lol

things we ( bloody Civilians ) will never know, tell me how many Pakistani's know that Shamsi base was under US possession until the Salala incident ? Army is keeping secret and if they compromise anything , they will keep Pakistani Govt and People blind ... its fishy that we are bending too much for only 8 F-shola ...

why so angry brother? you were not even paid and you seem more upset than Hussain Haqqani and US congress

 

[Blue Marlin]

It seems all Republicans are on sale these days, India has bought them, Israel has bought them. Why can't Pakistan buy them and get F-35 instead?

one step at a time hey webby........ pakistan should exercise the option for more too, this will bypass congress as the deal will be attached to the initial deal

 

[rockstar08]

rest assured it wont be you but people in Khaki

I dont want to waste my life on a nation that has no dignity

think of the difference between Pakistan with Afghanistan, Syria, iraq , Somalia and Libya..
their militaries were degraded and destoryed a narrative was built agaisnt them and people who were the loudest opponents got the biggest support and funding from those who wanted those countries destroyed.

same method was used here.. while we faught WOT, Indians have been trying to ambush us for over a decade, cold start, moving forces in the name on Mombai attack to name the few but it wasnt your PDF posting or Hamid Mir's talk show that stopped them..
understand that.

well you were given a Chance , the only thing that stop US to create a example out your country is that they fear of Nukes getting in the hands of Terrorist .. and even with that, you fate will not be different than Syria , Libya and other ME countries , it just matter of time ..
well Indians are not fools like us , their Economy is booming , and it will be stupid for them to start a war with Pakistan, and set them back to early 2000's ..
my post , or even if the entire Pakistan come out to protest against the stupid policies of Army , there wont be any difference, they keep the nation in dark , uneducated so someone cant Question what is happening behind the closed doors .

why so angry brother? you were not even paid and you seem more upset than Hussain Haqqani and US congress

No , not angry , but feel pity for People who worship Army like a God and take their Statements like Quranic Revelations ..
i like Raheel for what he is doing for WOT but , PAF and PN and in army there are generals who become US pets , work for them , lobby for their stuff, get bribes and so on ..
8 F-16 ? what it cost us ? money NO ? but our self respect.. to get them Pakistan has to do more, and who knows what else they agree to give behind the doors .

It seems all Republicans are on sale these days, India has bought them, Israel has bought them. Why can't Pakistan buy them and get F-35 instead?

why not F-22 Raptor ?

 

[CHI RULES]

Its US policy, that they never want weak Pakistan in front of India. Right now India has Russian and Isreali precision strike weapon. America only provided support in logistics.

Us F16 may be used ag India in A2A defensive role. USA only provides defensive ammos to Pak. Meanwhile India gets better offensive ammos for a number of reasons i.e Financial benefits attached to big orders and also to counter China.
Pakistan getting limited defensive ammo mainly to be used ag terrorists.

 

[HAIDER]

Us F16 may be used ag India in A2A defensive role. USA only provides defensive ammos to Pak. Meanwhile India gets better offensive ammos for a number of reasons i.e Financial benefits attached to big orders and also to counter China.
Pakistan getting limited defensive ammo mainly to be used ag terrorists.

US provide state of the art logistics and surveillance system, but they also provide cure to Pakistan. Like they provide indian aircraft carrier and ships a good defence system , but next day Pakistan got Harpoon 2. Which is carrier killer etc etc

 

[CHI RULES]

sorry Sir Pak harpoons have limited range with no capability against land targets. So far the only capable ammo which they have provided are hand full F16s block 50-52. U can't consider OHP, global cutters or MRPs as cure or hi tech ammo.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Please stop worshiping F-16 like a God .. there wont be a bit of concern for your enemy that is India .. they have 250+ Su-30mki , and all set to buy 36 Rafale that outmatched your entire fleet .. 8 F-shola will do nothing ..
and as for my concern, they are not my concern its i know what will happen .. mark my words, US is waiting for ISIS to set ground in Afghanistan , once they let ISIS take over, they will leave the region , leaving Pakistan with all three Terrorist Organization to deal with .. they are asking us to Target Afghan Taliban and make enemies with them, once ISIS and TTP join hands, we will have massive Insurgency at our door steps ..
Every country look for its national interest except for Pakistan .. we praise our Army and ISI , and yet they are slowly Poisoning the roots of Pakistan .

Ok. I accept that US will hand over Afghanistan to ISIS ... please let me know which future US administration will be able to take that risk? Democrats or Republican? Sir, US cannot afford to get out of Afghanistan during such strategic flux at global scale where new power centers are emerging while US is fast losing its edge. Not only leaving Afghanistan open to China, Pakistan and Russia ( all three are in SCO). Why do you think India is pressing so much with investment in Afghanistan? All Indian initiatives are being taken after a nod from Washington. Balance of Power is back and kicking.... So Alliance formation is clear. Pakistan and China on one side while India-US is on the other. But Pakistan have relations with both China and the US. If you think US is playing with Pakistan, tell me what stops Pakistan doing the same to the US? and how can you think we are not already doing that where it needs to be done? I will be really surprise to see a complete withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan.

Now coming back to F-16.

Is this the only plane in PAF?NO!
Is it only high-end multi-role fighter in PAF? YES!

So, here what the situation is. We will have to live with it. PAF is working on some future programs as hinted by Project Director of JF-17 in a program... but we have no idea at what stage those plans are and if they will see the light of the day or not... our options are limited. No one is interested in selling us high tech stuff this is another harsh reality. In this backdrop, PAF's insistence on F-16s and other US based weapons must not be difficult to fathom. Tell me, if we don't go for F-16s which other options is there with same promise of performance and reliability? Please don't come up with J-10. Had this been satisfied PAF, we would have seen them in PAF colors by now.

 

[Imran Khan]

when will be last f-16 induct in PAF ? its been 33 years now man

 

[araz]

bro we need to come out this worshiping of our armed forces , what ever they do is right , whatever they say is above Quran ... they have been selling Pakistan , compromising its national Security ..
look at the world around you, and look at Pakistan's Ability to Defend itself .. someday , someone have to make a Stand ..

If you think that you are the only one who knows what the great game is about and PA nad PAF are sitting idle then you need to rethink your strategy and get out of Pakistan for no one wants to sit on a powder keg. Iwould disagree with you on the assumption of why PAF is still going for 16s. I would also venture that by th3 time IAF gets the Rafale if they wver do PAF will have an answer to it if not straight away than wi5hjn a couple of years. Rest are all opinions and no one knows thhe whole truth except Allah SWT.
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[Imran Khan]

If you think that you are the only one who knows what the great game is about and PA nad PAF are sitting idle then you need to rethink your strategy and get out of Pakistan for no one wants to sit on a powder keg. Iwould disagree with you on the assumption of why PAF is still going for 16s. I would also venture that by th3 time IAF gets the Rafale if they wver do PAF will have an answer to it if not straight away than wi5hjn a couple of years. Rest are all opinions and no one knows thhe whole truth except Allah SWT.
A

sir everyone know this there is no end of PAF after jf-17 new plane will be induct and then again its with time .

 

[HAIDER]

when will be last f-16 induct in PAF ? its been 33 years now man

Sir ji ...F35 suppose to F16 replacement , but F35 is technology disaster right now. Cost of production is smoothly climbing. And F16 is keep on modifying and still low cost moderate dominating aircraft in the market.