US coalition to leave Iraq ‘in due deference to sovereignty’ – general

[dani92]

No occupying country will ever leave an occupied country unless evicted by force. Always has been. Always will be.

The Americans left in 2011 these are assistance forces.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The Americans left in 2011 these are assistance forces.

They never left. And even if they did, they unleash some ISIS to justify coming back in full. Vietnamese slaughtered 50,000+ US soldiers to cause a public outroar that caused them to leave Vietnam.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

The Americans left in 2011 these are assistance forces.

not anymore, now they're occupiers, troublemakers who threaten Iraq with sanctions, separatism after bombing and killing Iraqis.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

It could be a letter designed to alleviate some concerns. US isn't leaving Iraq and Syria any time soon.

 

[maverick1977]

Sanctions on Iraq are on its way..

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics/trump-iraq-sanctions/index.html

 

[dani92]

not anymore, now they're occupiers, troublemakers who threaten Iraq with sanctions, separatism after bombing and killing Iraqis.

That’s because of some ungrateful Iraqi elements who love Iran even though it was America who brought them to power and lost trillions in the process.
@camelguy @ArabianEmpires&Caliphates

 

[ps3linux]

YoungPakBrother mine,


You make me happy! YoungPaks are learning to SEE and Think!

Now, although too early in the game... let us visit a few facts on the ground...

• Modi did all he wanted in IoJK and legalising deportation of muslims to ConcentrationCamps... and yet nothing happened

• GanguTerroristArmy has placed BraMouse near CeaseFireLine... which an extreme act of agression in itself... no voice raised in protest/caution

• PakKashmiris are still locked up and NOTHING has come from the US/West to remedy it..and all the focus is on HongKong and Ugharz..

• There is a quiet increase of terrorism in Pakistan.. especially in former FATA and OurBalochistan...

• We are not allowed to go to KL at the behest of the US...

• FATF sword not removed...

• We are asked to facilitate between the US n Iran and then KSA n Iran ...PMIK visits.. Chief visits...

• Iranian General is assasinated while on diplomatic mission for grand reconciliation between KSA/Iran/US....

In the Hybridwar thread I have tried to bring to attention of Paks that The Greatest Game is in Town and Pakistan is The Heartland....

GanguFacistRegime is fully onboard and is in fact working on the Plan... The Greatest Game ....

Gawadar effected means China boxed in SouthChinaSea and EastChinaSea ...no more TwoOceanPower which it almost now...thanks to CPEC/Pakistan....

I cann't afford for Persia to fall... ignore the rants/brovadoz of our Persian friends.. here... they have the right to express their emotions and posture...

However, we cann't afford to be 'naked' completely from OurWesternBorders...

Whoever controls Gawadar controls the follow of everything from Gulf.... hence, we have seen too much sabotage from friends and foes alike... and we have taken all those hits in our stride...

Should Iran fall... Iraq is in pieces, GCC is giant fireball and kurds do what kurds do... and Turkiye gets sucked in too much...

The Maps are targeted to change once again... please, recall all these maps of GCC where courtesy colonial powers who still control the area....

This is ONLY opportunity for the GanguTerroristArmy and GanguFacistRegime to cause us harm with help of GanguFriends... in a way it is their LastChance...and Ganguz will go all out...

We shall also face intense terrorism from Kabulistan courtesy NDS/RAW n Friends...

Now if you put all the Vectors together... destruction of Iran will open up CentralAsia to Chaos so the BRI through CA will be effected as well... not to mention oil and gas imports of China and NorthEastAsia... Russia cann't supply enough....because if Rus supplies to NorthEastAsia only then it looses European market and geopolitical control over there... GasPoliticz!!!

In a way this is rather bold even reckless gamble by the empire.... so we shouldn't just look at surface reality...

We must Secure OurBalochistan and OurGawadar... and we must NEVER allow Persia to fall... despite their many follies... we need a high functioning state in OurWesternFlank... one Kabulistan is enough for next 40 years!!!

What is ironic is the fact that Ganguz are in this Game against Iran as well as Pakistan....

Kindly, dig deeper the OmanEquation...try to understand it well... What do you SEE?

Perservation of the State is Highest Virtue.

It is the Only Virtue.

Sadly, we have MarasiMedia and MarasiParliment and we have NO statesman at this hour!

Mangus

@graphican @ps3linux @PakSword @StormBreaker @Irfan Baloch @WebMaster @Horus @The Eagle @HRK @Signalian @Dazzler @Dubious @fitpOsitive @SIPRA

People with my specialty the finance people and those for whom money matters the most the business people particularly business tycoons like Donald Trump see things from a very different prism, contrary to popular belief that these people don't count for all the variables, they actually do unfortunately its always in terms of money and not human life.

Just for a moment step back from the scenario, ask a question with the exception of a deep divide between red neck and rest of america, whatever decision trump has made as a president had they been against the very basic benefit of Americans or in favor? The job data, economic data the trade war, the pullout from Afghanistan all are pointing that Americans will benefit, they are benefiting even right now.

First will America pullout of Iraq, short answer yes, once they have secured the oil supply and the oil-fields in complete binding agreements, security can be handed over to contractors for pennies (well front companies run by many senators or those who fund the campaigns of these scums), and they can hire hired guns through their proxies in Bahrian/UAE and Arabs retired Pak Army men/NCO/JCOs, from Afghan Army, few African countries. Haven't the coward arabs been doing so for decades now, who curbed the uprising in Bahrain by shia majority????? why the coward ministers of the country remained in Pakistan for months? why leading newspapers ran ads for hiring of retired Pak Army people.

So yes America will move out of Iraq, however, world major oil goes through persian gulf think channel where most of the world oil supply moves. Guess who are the two largest oil consumers? definitely not america.

Decades ago Americans decided to defend this oil supply route unilaterally, which today mean exponential cost; china the leading importer of oil is not paying a dime to protect their own supply line. So how to fix that? Let me come to that in a bit. As for Americans themselves once the Scandinavian field is fully operational, Americans will have a much safer and trustworthy supply line and supplier, till then they have their own oil and reserves.

Now how to fix that?? lets runs wild theory, if I were in Americans shoes I will involve one of my deep friends who will ask me to kill one of their generals, a national hero who had become too powerful and popular for his own good, now killing of their national hero will have enough material to bend public opinion, attack a few oil tankers of arab registry carrying oil for china, wow many birds with one stone.

Chinese would want to ensure their supply line is safe, so would many other and thus the burden on US will be lessened, and cherry on top will be few coward nations will be sold billions of dollars worth junk in the name of arms and ammunition whom they are incapable of using and maintaining.

I have not discussed the impact of such an escalation on commodity trading, people have earned billions of dollars in last few days, question which country is at the forefront of commodity trading????

My conclusion we are a temperamental nation to the level of stupidity, we have this stupid notion of Ummah, strangely both blocs of this stupid ummah have funded separatist movement, sectarian violence and insurgency in Pakistan, not one of them has come up and supported our narrative of indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan, Baluchistan. People in forces have established that many of the insurgent movements are sponsored by our "Beloved brothers" just to keep Pakistan unstable and dependent upon them.How many of our "beloved brothers" supported Pakistan, held rallies across their countries when there was foreign sponsored terrorism in Pakistan there were drone attacks regularly in Pakistan?

In fact whenever there is a terrorist attack in Iran, rallies were held in Tehran burning Pakistani flag and chanting slogans against Pakistan.

Pakistan has no friends, except Pakistan and people of Pakistan should not have any fealty to anyone except Pakistan. As far as I am concerned all these brotherly countries along their people and land don't matter a bit, I have only one identity that is Pakistan and I have only one nation that is Pakistani. No darn ummah.

War is coming no doubt about it, we too will have to get involved at some point, we will pay the price of war; but we will emerge and claim our rightful place in the world unlike the fate which is coming for the coward and back stabbing jerks.

Please evaluate my wild theory, after reading my signatures of course.

 

[Song Hong]

Despite of various short comings, Iraqi has more balls than Japan and Korea.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Unless Iraqis start fighting US like Afghans, US is not going to leave.

This is stalling, nothing more.

 

[Song Hong]

Just in

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/443818/Leader-s-advisor-U-S-must-leave-the-region

“Iran will act in a way that makes the United States regret. The United States must leave the region, otherwise, there will be another Vietnam for it,” he said during a speech at a ceremony held to commemorate Lieutenant General Soleimani at Shahid Beheshti University.

 

[pkd]

Lara Seligman on twitter saying that the defence department clarified that while the letter is not fake, it was circulated internally for feedback only and accidentally sent out/released. No offer to withdraw has been made by the US, officially.

With the benefit of hindsight would you say that the subject letter was issued indeed ? it was supposed to be a a forewarning for troops re-positioning (word mentioned in the letter) in view of the impending reprisals (with or without US consent) by Iran and not US-withdrawal. When it got leaked to the media a full-throated denial was issued.

 

[Sine Nomine]

That's US version of maskirovka.

 

[Naram_Sin]

The US is not leaving, shorterm they are counting on holding on until they can get a new Iraqi goverment in favor of them staying.