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It's the problem!!!! Some folks think TEI is a start-up company!!! In fact it's the Turkish GE, established by the GE, and it's run by the Turkish origin ex GE top technological executives.....


İranian , İndian , Chinese Guys dont know what about TEI


TUSAS Engine Industries (TEI) is an incorporated company established in 1985 as a joint venture of Turkish Aerospace Industries and American General Electric (GE)

TEI now manufactures over 1,500 different parts for 50 different aviation engines used around the world.

TEI is the world’s largest supplier for LEAP motors that power the Airbus A320neo, Boeing 737 MAX and Comac C919.


TEI with its 35 years worth of technical know-how, strong infrastructure and qualified workforce, carries out different engine projects for UAVs, Helicopters and Missiles.



also TEI manufactures the engines under a license from General Electric

-- T700-TEI-701D turboshaft engine for Sikorsky Blackhawk Helicopters
-- F110 turbofan engine for F-16 Fighter Jets


and TEI has developed 9 indigenous engine projects – 3 of which are diesel, 2 are gasoline and 4 are jet fuel engines over the last 7 years



Capabilities of TEI:

  • CNC Turning
  • CNC Milling
  • CNC Grinding
  • Jig Grinding
  • Curvic Coupling Grinding
  • Broaching
  • Gear Shaping (Spline)
  • Automated Edgebreaking / Deburring (Robotic Machining, High Speed 6-Axis Machining, Abrasive Brushing at Special Design Workstations)
  • Abrasive Flow Machining
  • Vibratory Machining
  • GTAW (Gas Tungsten Arc Welding) [6-Axis Automatic and 4-Axis Semi-Automatic Benching, Manual Welding]
  • Robotic Spot Resistance Welding
  • Seam Resistance Welding
  • Electro-beam Welding
  • Cold Forming [300-ton Hydraulic Press]
  • Cutting and Bending [Expand and Roll Machines]
  • Rivet Joining
  • Drilling [Eccentric Press]
  • Air Flow Measurement [Flow Measurement and Effective Area Measurement]

  • Inertia Welding
  • Blade Manufacturing Technologies
    • High Speed Blade Milling
    • ECM (Electrochemical Machining)
  • Automated Surface Finishing Technologies
    • Robotic Deburring
    • Vibratory Finishing
  • Simultaneous Shot Peening
  • Noncontact Blade Inspection
  • Ultrasonic Inspection

  • Robotic Thermal Spray Coatings (Coating of direct and non-line-of-sight surfaces of complex parts for protection against wear, corrosioni high temperatures; obtaining abradable and abrasive properties and for dimensial restoration with plasma HVOF and combustion flame techniques)
  • Shotpeening
  • Simultaneous Shotpeening
  • Inertia Welding
  • Ultrapolishing (Airfoil Surfaces)
  • Vacuum Heat Treatment
  • Vacuum Brazing

  • Chemical Processes
    • Robotic Anticorrosion Coating Applications
    • Sermetel Coating
    • Nickel Electroplating
    • Dry Lubricant Applications
    • Black Oxide Coating
    • Macro Etching
    • Titanium Macro Etching
    • Blue Etch Anodizing
    • Alkaline Cleaning & Titanium Cleaning
    • Chemical Milling
  • Non-Traditional Manufacturing Methods
    • Sink EDM
    • Wire EDM
    • Fast Hole EDM
    • STEM Drilling
    • Electrochemical Machining
    • Electrochemical Grinding
    • Laser Cutting and Drilling

High Speed Blade Milling
ECM (Electrochemical Machining


This beauty ( TS-1400 ) will be ready for mass production in 2024 -- for the T-625 multi-role Helicopter and T-629 Attack Helicopter


İndigenous engine TEI TS-1400 which produces 1,660 horsepower
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İranian , İndian , Chinese Guys dont know what about TEI


TUSAS Engine Industries (TEI) is an incorporated company established in 1985 as a joint venture of Turkish Aerospace Industries and American General Electric (GE)

TEI now manufactures over 1,500 different parts for 50 different aviation engines used around the world.

TEI is the world’s largest supplier for LEAP motors that power the Airbus A320neo, Boeing 737 MAX and Comac C919.


TEI with its 35 years worth of technical know-how, strong infrastructure and qualified workforce, carries out different engine projects for UAVs, Helicopters and Missiles.



also TEI manufactures the engines under a license from General Electric

-- T700-TEI-701D turboshaft engine for Sikorsky Blackhawk Helicopters
-- F110 turbofan engine for F-16 Fighter Jets


and TEI has developed 9 indigenous engine projects – 3 of which are diesel, 2 are gasoline and 4 are jet fuel engines over the last 7 years



Capabilities of TEI:

  • CNC Turning
  • CNC Milling
  • CNC Grinding
  • Jig Grinding
  • Curvic Coupling Grinding
  • Broaching
  • Gear Shaping (Spline)
  • Automated Edgebreaking / Deburring (Robotic Machining, High Speed 6-Axis Machining, Abrasive Brushing at Special Design Workstations)
  • Abrasive Flow Machining
  • Vibratory Machining
  • GTAW (Gas Tungsten Arc Welding) [6-Axis Automatic and 4-Axis Semi-Automatic Benching, Manual Welding]
  • Robotic Spot Resistance Welding
  • Seam Resistance Welding
  • Electro-beam Welding
  • Cold Forming [300-ton Hydraulic Press]
  • Cutting and Bending [Expand and Roll Machines]
  • Rivet Joining
  • Drilling [Eccentric Press]
  • Air Flow Measurement [Flow Measurement and Effective Area Measurement]

  • Inertia Welding
  • Blade Manufacturing Technologies
    • High Speed Blade Milling
    • ECM (Electrochemical Machining)
  • Automated Surface Finishing Technologies
    • Robotic Deburring
    • Vibratory Finishing
  • Simultaneous Shot Peening
  • Noncontact Blade Inspection
  • Ultrasonic Inspection

  • Robotic Thermal Spray Coatings (Coating of direct and non-line-of-sight surfaces of complex parts for protection against wear, corrosioni high temperatures; obtaining abradable and abrasive properties and for dimensial restoration with plasma HVOF and combustion flame techniques)
  • Shotpeening
  • Simultaneous Shotpeening
  • Inertia Welding
  • Ultrapolishing (Airfoil Surfaces)
  • Vacuum Heat Treatment
  • Vacuum Brazing

  • Chemical Processes
    • Robotic Anticorrosion Coating Applications
    • Sermetel Coating
    • Nickel Electroplating
    • Dry Lubricant Applications
    • Black Oxide Coating
    • Macro Etching
    • Titanium Macro Etching
    • Blue Etch Anodizing
    • Alkaline Cleaning & Titanium Cleaning
    • Chemical Milling
  • Non-Traditional Manufacturing Methods
    • Sink EDM
    • Wire EDM
    • Fast Hole EDM
    • STEM Drilling
    • Electrochemical Machining
    • Electrochemical Grinding
    • Laser Cutting and Drilling

High Speed Blade Milling
ECM (Electrochemical Machining


This beauty will be ready for mass production in 2024 -- T-625 multi-role Helicopter and T-629 Attack Helicopter


İndigenous engine TEI TS-1400 which produces 1,660 horsepower
View attachment 726521

No doubt Pakistan will wait for the Turkish engine. I have 0 doubt that Turkey is eventually going to mass produce its engine and sell these helicopters to Pakistan in considerable numbers.

In the meanwhile Pakistan is also going to seriously consider the Chinese option. It only makes sense.

In my opinion, Pakistan needs both the Chinese and Turkish choppers. Pakistan needs to go beyond purchasing the helicopters. Pakistan requires production facilities for both Chinese and Turkish helicopters.

Just like F-16 blackmail, Pakistan is again suffering due to US treachery. This will only mean good for Pakistan. Self-sufficiency is the way forward.
 
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Z-10's length and height are little bit more than T-129 but its empty weight 5,100 kg is double than T-129's 2,350 kg which needs to be reviewed by China for better power to weight ratio.
Sacrificing armour at expense of performance is not an option for attack gunship.

Obviously T129K chooses the latter.
 
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It's the problem!!!! Some folks think TEI is a start-up company!!! In fact it's the Turkish GE, established by the GE, and it's run by the Turkish origin ex GE top technological executives.....
Turkey has made consider able axhievements, anyone claiming Otherwise is kidding themselves but in the field of engines, there is a big barrier to Turkish made hardwares. Every country begins from somewhere and surely Turkish engineers after US sanctions will be forced into developing turboshaft engines. Its time consuming and your customer has to Wait for it. Pakistan will apparently wait, no other choice they have left. Or maybe they consider Chinese choppers as a Fill the gap. Let's wait to see what happens, its interesting to me to see the outcome of these events.
 
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Turkey has made consider able axhievements, anyone claiming Otherwise is kidding themselves but in the field of engines, there is a big barrier to Turkish made hardwares. Every country begins from somewhere and surely Turkish engineers after US sanctions will be forced into developing turboshaft engines. Its time consuming and your customer has to Wait for it. Pakistan will apparently wait, no other choice they have left. Or maybe they consider Chinese choppers as a Fill the gap. Let's wait to see what happens, its interesting to me to see the outcome of these events.
In Pakistani history there are hardly any instances of filling the gap interim buys. What ever we have bought( with the exception of F104s) has outlived its utility before it has been changed. As a small nation with an even smaller pocket we cannot afford to do so. Look at F7p buys in the 90s and lasting us till 2020.The same with Mig-17and 19s.
As far as Attack helos go, I suspect PAA will wait either for the Turk or Chinese brothers to produce-a product which fulfills its-needs fully at a price it can afford before it commits. The advantage of the Turkish buy is its suitability for the purpose of what it is needed along with the prospect of kick starting the helo industry in Pakistan. The realization of this dream will make us wait for quite some time.
With the slowing down of anti terror ops the strain on the cobra fleet is lessening and I THINK PAC has recently overhauled one of the machines which means the capacity for overhauling/ small part manufacturing is there should we need it.The advent of UCAVs has also added to this domain and perhaps given PAA some time to think and strategize. So we can and should wait.
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Z10 just crashed recently 2 pilots killed its the 4th crash in 2 month, it has a terrible track record

We cannot afford to risk the lives of our pilots we don’t have a excess service men like China

Yes there was a crash recently but both pilots survived. There haven’t been 4 crashes of Z-10s in two months since this is the first and only crash so far this year.
 
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Underpowered

But not Z-20. Attack version Z-20W is coming along within the next 2 years. Z-20W replaces Z-9W.

Z10 just crashed recently 2 pilots killed its the 4th crash in 2 month, it has a terrible track record

We cannot afford to risk the lives of our pilots we don’t have a excess service men like China

I don't see any source. Provide the source or else I will report you for anti China propaganda.
dude you okay? why so much prejudice?

He is renowned China hater who got banned from Sinodefence forum for trolling.
Yes there was a crash recently but both pilots survived. There haven’t been 4 crashes of Z-10s in two months since this is the first and only crash so far this year.

He is renowned China hater who got banned from Sinodefence forum for trolling.
LOL.. Another fake lies from a China haters.

He is renowned China hater who got banned from Sinodefence forum for trolling.
 
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İranian , İndian , Chinese Guys dont know what about TEI


TUSAS Engine Industries (TEI) is an incorporated company established in 1985 as a joint venture of Turkish Aerospace Industries and American General Electric (GE)

TEI now manufactures over 1,500 different parts for 50 different aviation engines used around the world.

TEI is the world’s largest supplier for LEAP motors that power the Airbus A320neo, Boeing 737 MAX and Comac C919.


TEI with its 35 years worth of technical know-how, strong infrastructure and qualified workforce, carries out different engine projects for UAVs, Helicopters and Missiles.



also TEI manufactures the engines under a license from General Electric

-- T700-TEI-701D turboshaft engine for Sikorsky Blackhawk Helicopters
-- F110 turbofan engine for F-16 Fighter Jets


and TEI has developed 9 indigenous engine projects – 3 of which are diesel, 2 are gasoline and 4 are jet fuel engines over the last 7 years



Capabilities of TEI:

  • CNC Turning
  • CNC Milling
  • CNC Grinding
  • Jig Grinding
  • Curvic Coupling Grinding
  • Broaching
  • Gear Shaping (Spline)
  • Automated Edgebreaking / Deburring (Robotic Machining, High Speed 6-Axis Machining, Abrasive Brushing at Special Design Workstations)
  • Abrasive Flow Machining
  • Vibratory Machining
  • GTAW (Gas Tungsten Arc Welding) [6-Axis Automatic and 4-Axis Semi-Automatic Benching, Manual Welding]
  • Robotic Spot Resistance Welding
  • Seam Resistance Welding
  • Electro-beam Welding
  • Cold Forming [300-ton Hydraulic Press]
  • Cutting and Bending [Expand and Roll Machines]
  • Rivet Joining
  • Drilling [Eccentric Press]
  • Air Flow Measurement [Flow Measurement and Effective Area Measurement]

  • Inertia Welding
  • Blade Manufacturing Technologies
    • High Speed Blade Milling
    • ECM (Electrochemical Machining)
  • Automated Surface Finishing Technologies
    • Robotic Deburring
    • Vibratory Finishing
  • Simultaneous Shot Peening
  • Noncontact Blade Inspection
  • Ultrasonic Inspection

  • Robotic Thermal Spray Coatings (Coating of direct and non-line-of-sight surfaces of complex parts for protection against wear, corrosioni high temperatures; obtaining abradable and abrasive properties and for dimensial restoration with plasma HVOF and combustion flame techniques)
  • Shotpeening
  • Simultaneous Shotpeening
  • Inertia Welding
  • Ultrapolishing (Airfoil Surfaces)
  • Vacuum Heat Treatment
  • Vacuum Brazing

  • Chemical Processes
    • Robotic Anticorrosion Coating Applications
    • Sermetel Coating
    • Nickel Electroplating
    • Dry Lubricant Applications
    • Black Oxide Coating
    • Macro Etching
    • Titanium Macro Etching
    • Blue Etch Anodizing
    • Alkaline Cleaning & Titanium Cleaning
    • Chemical Milling
  • Non-Traditional Manufacturing Methods
    • Sink EDM
    • Wire EDM
    • Fast Hole EDM
    • STEM Drilling
    • Electrochemical Machining
    • Electrochemical Grinding
    • Laser Cutting and Drilling

High Speed Blade Milling
ECM (Electrochemical Machining


This beauty ( TS-1400 ) will be ready for mass production in 2024 -- for the T-625 multi-role Helicopter and T-629 Attack Helicopter


İndigenous engine TEI TS-1400 which produces 1,660 horsepower
View attachment 726521
I wish the folks could have understood the following interview of the TEI boss Prof Dr Mahmut Aksit, the former VP of Turboengine Technology of GE at NY, USA (He was 33 years old when he was made the VP at GE):

 
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It's always a good strategy to not putting all the eggs in one basket no matter how good of relationship you have with another country or person for that matter. So, it's perfectly understandable from the Pakistan's
perspective to sticking with the T129K deal with Turkey if there is no urgent needs right now.

But also let's not trying to sugar coating this deal can be done with just short delay in the near future. Despite
all the advancement by Turkey which are very impressive considered the time it took for them to achieve in so many fields. There will be delays and problems with the developing turboshaft engine no matter which country or how superior they think their engineers are at solving problems.

I would think best case scenario for Pak T129K delivery time will be 5-10 years from now unless Turkey can use replacement engines from Ukraine with the blessing of U.S gov approval. Which is another question mark.
 
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