US approves $930 million sale to India of additional 6 Apache AH-64E helicopters

[Śakra]

Pakistan claiming Urdu is like the white Europeans claiming America.

Apparently Lucknow is in pakistan

 

[Shabi1]

Pakistan claiming Urdu is like the white Europeans claiming America.

The IRONY.

You do know word Hindu derived from Hind and this in turn is for people living around the Indus river. River Indus is in Pakistan.

https://www.history.com/topics/hinduism
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ORIGINS OF HINDUISM
Most scholars believe Hinduism formally started somewhere between 2300 B.C. and 1500 B.C. in the Indus Valley, near modern-day Pakistan. But many Hindus argue that their faith is timeless and has always existed.

"
http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/csas/PDF/9. Muhammad Sohail_January-June 2012.pdf
Urdu word is derived from the Turkish word Ourdu which means army. It was the language of the Muslim armies and Muslim settlers and since it had people of various localities its a mixture of several languages. Urdu although originated when Muslims entered North Western Hindustan (Present day Pakistan) is not specified to a particular location as it had heavy literary evolutions from all over during Mughal era .

So request to both sides. This is a childish debate, let it be.

 

[Quibbler]

You are kind of digressing from the topic. But i will still reply.
You can either be descendants of the Arabs or hindus (or other indigenous religion) that were forced by raping and killing to convert to the very Islam that you adore now. You can't be both. Chose one and please tell your comrades about it because they keep claiming the best of both.

Moreover Urdu was a conflux of hindu and muslim culture. We in India acknowledge our Muslim culture and thus can ethically own URDU. Whereas Paksitan has a policy if denying its Hindi past. Therefore it cannot own anything that is a confluence of Hindi - Islamic culture.

The IRONY.

You do know word Hindu derived from Hind and this in turn is for people living around the Indus river. River Indus is in Pakistan.

https://www.history.com/topics/hinduism
"
ORIGINS OF HINDUISM
Most scholars believe Hinduism formally started somewhere between 2300 B.C. and 1500 B.C. in the Indus Valley, near modern-day Pakistan. But many Hindus argue that their faith is timeless and has always existed.

"
http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/csas/PDF/9. Muhammad Sohail_January-June 2012.pdf
Urdu word is derived from the Turkish word Ourdu which means army. It was the language of the Muslim armies and Muslim settlers and since it had people of various localities its a mixture of several languages. Urdu although originated when Muslims entered North Western Hindustan (Present day Pakistan) is not specified to a particular location as it had heavy literary evolutions from all over during Mughal era .

So request to both sides. This is a childish debate, let it be.

 

[faithfulguy]

Or maybe the offsets with TOT.

Trust me, there is no TOT. Maybe offsets. But “offsets” is Hindi for corruption, isn’t it!

 

[Areesh]

Pakistan claiming Urdu is like the white Europeans claiming America.

Bharatis calling their hindi as Urdu is like Rajesh from Bangalore call center calling himself Robert from America

 

[Quibbler]

You are kind of digressing from the topic. But i will still reply.
You can either be descendants of the Arabs or hindus (or other indigenous religion) that were forced by raping and killing to convert to the very Islam that you adore now. You can't be both. Chose one and please tell your comrades about it because they keep claiming the best of both.

Bharatis calling their hindi as Urdu is like Rajesh from Bangalore call center calling himself Robert from America

What a an informative and logical rebuttal. I am blown away buy this sudden burst of debating excellence.

 

[Areesh]

What a an informative and logical rebuttal. I am blown away buy this sudden burst of debating excellence.

Don't buy it.

Just stop claiming hindi as Urdu

. Chose one and please tell your comrades about it because they keep claiming the best of both.

we don't care about these non issues.

What we care is that we got the best instead of worshiping random animals from the zoo.

 

[Quibbler]

Don't buy it.

Just stop claiming hindi as Urdu


we don't care about these non issues.

What we care is that we got the best instead of worshiping random animals from the zoo.

Yes looking at Islamic societies around the world you certainly got the best of Radicals and people unwelcome in liberal societies.

 

[Shabi1]

You are kind of digressing from the topic. But i will still reply.
You can either be descendants of the Arabs or hindus (or other indigenous religion) that were forced by raping and killing to convert to the very Islam that you adore now. You can't be both. Chose one and please tell your comrades about it because they keep claiming the best of both.

Moreover Urdu was a conflux of hindu and muslim culture. We in India acknowledge our Muslim culture and thus can ethically own URDU. Whereas Paksitan has a policy if denying its Hindi past. Therefore it cannot own anything that is a confluence of Hindi - Islamic culture.

You didn't have any valid counter arguments so you brought up your national obsession with rape. Sick

 

[Quibbler]

You didn't have any valid counter arguments so you brought up your national obsession with rape. Sick

My rebuttal has a lot of points - one of them being rape. Your reply has only one point rape. Quite descriptive of the fact whose nation is obsessed with rape.

Now that you bring up rape. Here is some data to open your glued shut eyes.
India Rape per 100000 -1.8
Pakistan rape per 100000 - 28
India has a much stronger reporting and compensation system than Paksitan.
Unlike Pakistan where you need 4 witnesses to report a case.

And this is not counting the goats and Camels raped by Pakistanis everyday.
We in India are fighting our rape problem whereas Pakistanis are happy letting their women getting raped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

 

[Areesh]

Yes looking at Islamic societies around the world you certainly got the best of Radicals and people unwelcome in liberal societies.

Is that why several Muslim societies are far ahead in HDI than "liberal" hindu India?

OK

My rebuttal has a lot of points

And all your points are as shitty as your society.

Now that you bring up rape. Here is some data to open your glued shut eyes.
India Rape per 100000 -1.8
Pakistan rape per 100000 - 28

Looks like more of the bullsh!t stats that we keep hearig about from Saghi school buffoonry

Only Madhya Pardesh reports more rapes per day than Pakistan

15 women raped in MP every day: Report

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ate-every-day-report/articleshow/63193152.cms

WAR report 2014: Four women raped every day in Pakistan

Now madhya pardesh population = 72 million
Pakistan population = 200 million

Shows the kind of filth you belong to. If that wasn't enough you also belong to a society that takes out rallies in support of rapists under national flag. And that rally includes women too

BJP Leader in Front, Hindu Ekta Manch Waves Tricolour in Support of Rape Accused in Jammu

https://thewire.in/politics/hindu-ekta-manch-bjp-protest-support-spo-arrested-rape-jammu

Yup that is you. That is the filthy you.

And this is not counting the goats and Camels raped by Pakistanis everyday.

We are also not counting the cows that are raped by Indian men daily.

Man booked in Maharashtra for having sex with cow

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...arashtra-for-having-sex-with-cow-1633957.html

Or Indian women who prefer to marry dogs daily

 

[Shabi1]

My rebuttal has a lot of points - one of them being rape. Your reply has only one point rape. Quite descriptive of the fact whose nation is obsessed with rape.

Now that you bring up rape. Here is some data to open your glued shut eyes.
India Rape per 100000 -1.8
Pakistan rape per 100000 - 28
India has a much stronger reporting and compensation system than Paksitan.
Unlike Pakistan where you need 4 witnesses to report a case.

And this is not counting the goats and Camels raped by Pakistanis everyday.
We in India are fighting our rape problem whereas Pakistanis are happy letting their women getting raped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Need I say more, you are a sick sick man or boy.

You can discuss it here
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/top-10-countries-with-maximum-rape-crimes.523823/page-3

And by the way the wikipedia figure you are quoting it's showing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#cite_note-undata-13
as the source and Pakistan is not on the original list, I've updated wikipedia and they have made the a correction, thanks for the highlight.

You had no valid arguments just moved the discussion to your obsession with rape. Urdu has no localization because although it has origins in what is modern day Pakistan it has evolved all over under Mughal rule, gave the Indus Valley/river - Hind - Hindu correlation as a example. Indus valley civilization/ river is in modern day Pakistan but we never say it is the cradle of Hinduism.

 

[MimophantSlayer]

What a rip off!

150 million dollar per helicopter, even if this includes spares and weapons.

The Government of India has requested to buy the following items in support of a proposed direct commercial sale of six (6) AH-64E Apache helicopters: fourteen (14) T700-GE-701D engines; four (4) AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars; four (4) Radar Electronic Units (REU) Block III; four (4) AN/APR-48B Modernized Radar Frequency Interferometers (M-RFI’s); one hundred eighty (180) AGM-114L-3 Hellfire Longbow missiles; ninety (90) AGM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles; two hundred (200) Stinger Block I-92H missiles; seven (7) Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors (MTADS-PNVS); and fourteen (14) Embedded GPS Inertial Navigation Systems (EGI). Also included are rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm cannons and ammunition, transponders, simulators, communication equipment, spare and repair parts, tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical documentation, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistic and program support. The total estimated program cost is $930 million.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/india-support-direct-commercial-sale-ah-64e-apache-helicopters

@waz can we get offtopic posts out of here?

 

[Quibbler]

Need I say more, you are a sick sick man or boy.

You can discuss it here
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/top-10-countries-with-maximum-rape-crimes.523823/page-3

And by the way the wikipedia figure you are quoting it's showing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#cite_note-undata-13
as the source and Pakistan is not on the original list, I've updated wikipedia and they have made the a correction, thanks for the highlight.

You had no valid arguments just moved the discussion to your obsession with rape.

You do realize that India has 6 times your population. Oviously it will have more rapes than you. But in per capita terms Pakistan leads heavily. A women is much more likely to get raped in Pakistan. And this is after barbaric laws that require witnesses to even register a case.

 

[Shabi1]

You do realize that India has 6 times your population. Oviously it will have more rapes than you. But in per capita terms Pakistan leads heavily. A women is much more likely to get raped in Pakistan. And this is after barbaric laws that require witnesses to even register a case.

Your assumptions. whatever makes you feel better.

And have I told you have a really really sick mind.