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US Apologizes to Pakistan For Salala Attack

REMEMBER, its a morale victory by pakistan,s strong stand against the only superpower of the world!
they already , accept our demands now we are open for the bussiness, ONCE YOU WON , YOU WON? WINNERS WRITTES HISTORY!
other things will be decided, with our victory on the morale grounds!

Beyond morality there are many other things that are far more important like the lives of our soldiers , making a super power say sorry is all it meant for you? Is that the only thing left to make us proud? Opening NATO routes and normalizing the situation and then after few months you are again going to see some NATO attack inside our territory then they will again say sorry and we will again accept it saying "oh we have won again" but at the end we are the one suffering the most... The only thing NATO suffered during these few months was 2.1 billion dollars ... its nothing for a super power and her rich allies ...But will it compensate for the precious lives we lost ??
 
dear all,
i have noticed that many here are arguing that what we get from this sorry and this is just twisting of same old rigid attitude of US and its not an apology. Even some members are saying that the Salala like incidents will be repeated in future as well..

Right,
what we need to understand is that we were not asking for this as a favor, this was not something that would have helped us economically, neither do we expect that a sorry will be a guarantee that such things will never happen in future.
the point is that we have made it clear that what happened was not right in our view and we have made the other side realize this.
this is more to do with your moral and principles then with some financial and/or tangible benefits!

i hope you guys agree to this.

regards!
Absolutely - The situation was being exploited by Karzai and India.They were very happy and Let's not forget US is a Super Power so even this is remarkable.Don't expect US to broadcast apology from White House now.
 
guss, both sides tested everything ,in those 220 days, & after testing all the options in hand, the appology has arrived today!
its late, but still good! for both instead becoming enemies?

No it is more like No one was Interested & cared for the lives of 24 Soldiers who Embraced Shahadat that day.

US did not want to Apologize because it would mean they are accepting a mistake which would according to them will be the first piece of the Domino's to fall , Hence they still did not said sorry .

Pakistan Government on the other hand was manhandled by Army to not open the supply lines until told otherwise , and army wanted US to Admit their fault , which they still did not .

SO my Friends Nothing is resolved , do you really think US is going to get away with this attitude ? . NO , US needs the route to Save Money & Pakistan has to Grant the rout to Manage their interest payments via Coalition support fund.

Nothing is resolved , CIA (US) & ISI (Pakistan) will still not sit on a Table & Shake Hands .
 
wow.. Apology from US. Pakistan has come out a winner here playing hard ball with the super power
 
TO all those who are jumping yuppy we won US said sorry let me remind u just 2 days ago US drone killed 8 civiln which were not terrorist thats Fuckin Bullshit pakistan had a great chance but they just let it goo well Geo Zardaii and Geo kyanii these all are fuckin terrorist zardarii and kayani both have the gutts 2 stand up for some thing Hope so US start war with full force and with drone they shd start sending their petrol units 2 and they must kill every living thing they see in side our land cz we desrve this and it wasnt us who apologized it was pakistan who said sorry they were sorry for stopping this for many months instead of petrol units they better Apache and let India help 2 in other words it shows how shameless country we are we take money from those who kill our sisters brothers and when they even kill our soldiers we still take their side well my luck i was born in norway instead of pakistan cz norway is a proud country all our forefathers they also well be feeling guilty for give a country to those who dont deserve it million died for no reason and yet we fight each other we chose the worst people to rule our country but still i love that country Pakistan zindabad

Our Gvrmnt Failed Our Leader Failed we failed
 
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It's a good thing - Now snakes like Karzai and India can't exploit the situation between PAK-US.

Only if America start taking dictates from Pakistan which is not likely the case..

You may get additional money for the supply routes though..
 
June 27, 2012

U.S. 'regrets' Salala incident, hopes for better ties with Pak, says Envoy Munter

Islamabad, June 27 (ANI): U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter has said America regrets the Salala check post incident and intends to expand ties with Pakistan in diverse fields.

According to The Dawn, Munter said the U.S. is serious about expanding business and social sector ties with Pakistan, adding that several issues regarding NATO supply resumption with Pakistan have been settled.

He said both sides agree that the NATO supply issue was not handled properly, and stressed the need for a political decision to end the deadlock.

Munter said restoration of NATO supplies to Afghanistan was also in the interest of Pakistan.

Ties between Pakistan and the U.S. went sour after the Salala incident in which a NATO air strike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, last November. The incident compelled Pakistan to block the NATO supplies through its territory into Afghanistan. Pakistan has been seeking an unconditional apology for the deadly attack as a pre-condition to reopen the vital supply routes. The U.S., however, has been reluctant to offer an apology. (ANI)
 
OH come on people you need to improve your command of english and same goes for pakistani media!

"I offered our sincere condolences to the families of the Pakistani soldiers who lost their lives," Mrs Clinton said. thats not an acknowledgement of mistake on their part, they are just offering condolences to the families. So what!

"Foreign Minister Khar and I acknowledged the mistakes that resulted in the loss of Pakistani military lives. Again acknowledging mistake of Americans?

"We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military. We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again." Again when you are sorry for someones loss this doesn't mean you had a hand in it. for example "i'm sorry for the loss of your father" doesn't mean you murdered their father!

Stupid media and gullible population!

what if US have begged Pakistan and cried as asked for forgiveness???
what difference that would have made??? NOTHING!!!

please try and understand that it was a fight of principles, WE were saying that they have made a mistake and they should apologize for that. They were saying that this DO NOT MATTER to them....

now ready the initial posts again, read what Clinton said and then you will understand the difference.

regards!
 
Pakistan opens Afghan supply line after US apology
BRADLEY KLAPPER, Associated Press
Updated 12:41 p.m., Tuesday, July 3, 2012
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, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks at the State Department in Washington. The Obama administration says Pakistan is reopening supply lines into Afghanistan after the U.S. issued an apology for the November killing of 24 Pakistani troops in a NATO airstrike. Clinton says she told Pakistan’s foreign minister in a telephone conversation that the U.S. is “sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military.” She says both sides acknowledged mistakes that resulted in deaths. Photo: Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP
FILE - In this June 12, 2012 file photo, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks at the State Department in Washington. The Obama administration says Pakistan is reopening supply lines into Afghanistan after the U.S. issued an apology for the November killing of 24 Pakistani troops in a NATO airstrike. Clinton says she told Pakistan’s foreign minister in a telephone conversation that the U.S. is “sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military.” She says both sides acknowledged mistakes that resulted in deaths. Photo: Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP \


Pakistan opens Afghan supply line after US apology - Houston Chronicle
 
Pakistan Opens NATO Supply Line as Clinton Apologizes


WASHINGTON — Pakistan told the United States it was reopening NATO’s supply routes into neighboring Afghanistan after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said she was sorry for the deaths of Pakistani soldiers in American airstrikes in November, the State Department said Tuesday.


The agreement ends a bitter seven-month stalemate between the two countries that has threatened to jeopardize counterterrorism cooperation and complicated the American troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

In a telephone call to Pakistan’s foreign minister, Hina Rabbani Khar, Mrs. Clinton said the two officials agreed that mistakes were made on both sides that led to the fatal airstrike.

“We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement issued by the State Department. “We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.”

The November airstrikes, which killed 24 soldiers in Pakistani territory after reports of militant activity in the area, led Pakistan to immediately close the supply lines and plunged relations between the countries to a low point.

The agreement on Tuesday followed a flurry of recent contacts between top American and Pakistani officials. Gen. John R. Allen, the American commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, met last week in Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad, with Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the Pakistani army chief of staff, to discuss counterterrorism strategy and the supply routes.

Over the weekend, Mrs. Clinton telephoned her congratulations to Pakistan’s new prime minister, Raja Pervez Ashraf, and brought up the issue. And on Monday, Thomas R. Nides, a deputy secretary of state, visited Islamabad to discuss the routes.

But the major stumbling block has been Pakistan’s demand for a formal American apology for the fatal airstrike in November. The Pentagon and the White House have adamantly opposed any additional apology beyond the several expressions of regret and condolences offered by many American officials — a carefully calibrated response during a hard-fought presidential campaign in the United States.

In her statement on Tuesday, Mrs. Clinton again expressed “deepest regrets for the tragic incident” last November and offered the administration’s “sincere condolences to the families of the Pakistani soldiers.” But the clincher for Pakistan seemed to be Mrs. Clinton’s using the word “sorry.”

In exchange, Pakistan dropped its insistence to charge a transit fee for each truck carrying NATO nonlethal supplies from Pakistan into Afghanistan, Mrs. Clinton said.

It was not immediately clear why Pakistan dropped the demand for transit fees, which had been a hotly contested issue for months.

Pakistan, stung by the suspension of American military assistance last year, at first demanded a fee of $5,000 for each truck that crossed its territory from the port in Karachi to Afghanistan. Before the November attack, NATO had paid $250. Pakistan later reduced that demand to about $3,000 a truck; the United States has offered $1,000 per vehicle, although some officials say the two sides have settled for about half of that.

“This is a tangible demonstration of Pakistan’s support for a secure, peaceful, and prosperous Afghanistan and our shared objectives in the region,” Mrs. Clinton said in her statement, noting that waiving any transit fees will allow the United States and NATO to conduct “the planned drawdown at a much lower cost.”

The Pentagon has offset the closed route by using a much longer, more expensive northern supply line that runs into Afghanistan through Central Asia. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta has said the route was costing an extra $100 million a month.

Mr. Panetta on Tuesday applauded Pakistan’s decision, saying: "We remain committed to improving our partnership with Pakistan and to working closely together as our two nations confront common security challenges in the region."

A top-level meeting of Pakistani civil and military leadership held in Islamabad on Tuesday evening gave the clearest indication of the Pakistani willingness to reopen the NATO supply routes.

Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf, who headed the meeting, said in a televised address that the supply line closures “not only impinge on our relationship with the United States but also on our relations with the 49 other member states of NATO/ISAF.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/04/w...s-afghan-routes-to-nato-after-us-apology.html
 

see what imran khan and hamid mir say, its a regret not apology
 
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you just show me this line when they said before please ???????//

We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military. We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.

There are words out there in previous statements which are to that effect. Basically revamped diplomatic speak. I still dont see an apology from the NATO/ISAF forces accepting their mistake in the fiasco. Now that would be a true apology.

Also, basically nothing changed. No extra transit fees, its like as it was before. ISAF operations continued unhindered in Afghanistan despite the 'blockade'. The real question is who really buckled?
 
It's not an apology, they feel regretful of what they did to Pak Army... it looks like we're being fooled here with twisting of the words. No?
 

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