US airdrops supplies in east Afghanistan

[Hulk]

I am waiting for the American move, would be waiting for clarity from Pakistan. Let us see what comes out.

 

[Omar1984]

Looks like construction equipment to me.

All the combats supplies are flown in. Both the NDN and Pakistan routes are used for non combat shipment.

Stolen NATO combat material seized in raid - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

Stolen Nato supplies recovered in raids | Latest news, Breaking news, Pakistan News, World news, business, sport and multimedia | DAWN.COM

I'm not going to waste any of my time replying to people like you who have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Roybot]

I'm not going to waste any of my time replying to people like you who have no idea what they are talking about.

I am talking about the present, while you are dwelling in the past.

THE ROUTES AND SUPPLIES

There are two routes into Afghanistan from Pakistan, one across the Khyber Pass to the Afghan border town of Torkham and on to Kabul. The other goes through Pakistan's Baluchistan province to the border town of Chaman and on to the southern Afghan city, and former Taliban stronghold, of Kandahar.

Between them these two routes account for just under one third of all cargo that the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) ships into Afghanistan.Just over one third of all cargo goes on routes dubbed the "northern distribution network" through Central Asia, and the Caucasus or Russia. The remaining 31 percent is flown in.

NATO declined to give details of how the shipments through Pakistan are divided between the two routes, but a spokesman said the figures likely change each month. Some imported supplies for the fledgling Afghan armed forces, which the United States and its allies are building up, also come through the Pakistani routes.

WHAT HAS CHANGED

As recently as July, the balance of supplies transiting through Pakistan and the northern distribution network were weighted in Pakistan's favor, with slightly more than half of ground-transported supplies arriving through Khyber or Chaman.

After a string of disruptions, NATO-led forces and the U.S. military decided to push supply networks away from reliance on Pakistan. The United States has gone even further than other nations in the alliance with a target that only 25 percent of ground cargo should arrive via Afghanistan's eastern neighbor.

This was done with the goal of "reducing reliance on any single line of communication to avoid any unnecessary vulnerabilities should that network become unavailable," according to an ISAF spokeswoman.

And from the links your provided,

The seized items, Dawn said, included armored personnel carriers, helicopter accessories, communications systems, heavy-duty generators, mounts, motors, stretchers, water bags, senior officer bags, shoes, gloves and other items.

“These goods, which also consisted of some personal belongings of foreign soldiers, were stolen from the containers by different groups,” the official told Dawn.

Interestingly, Sitara Market in Karkhano Bazaar on Peshawar-Torkham Highway, famous for sale of stolen Nato items, is located close to the areas where the raids were conducted.

The said market even deals in military uniforms, boots, sunglasses, kitchen and bathroom items of Nato forces.

 

[VelocuR]

Not one, two, or a dozen. 500 NATO/ISAF/American vehicles gone missing in Pakistan! This can't be an operation by a small band of looters. It is obviously something bigger.

Now how much road space would be required for 500 tankers? Approximately 10 kms! And this huge convoy was undetectable? Impossible!

Afghanistan is a landlocked country isolated and backward, almost not even have to rely on from the outside stitch shipped in. Taliban and the “base” organizations are aware of the fight against this cause major logistical give opponents trouble. In early July, there have been three military transport helicopter missing, despite repeated search is still no trace of this incident was very shocked by the coalition of NATO countries.

Don't blame Pakistan.

 

[53fd]

Looks like construction equipment to me.

All the combats supplies are flown in. Both the NDN and Pakistan routes are used for non combat shipment.

But the fuel needed for them goes from the ground, in trucks. They have been stopped.

 

[lvwilly]

Militants grab U.S. military Humvees in ambush - CNN

This was a few years ago and after this hopefully procedures have changed.

Oops sorry, double post. What about Manas air base?

 

[karan.1970]

But the fuel needed for them goes from the ground, in trucks. They have been stopped.

all this talk of Russia stopping the Shipments is just a ploy to get NATO to buy the fuel from Russia.. Wait and watch

 

[Roybot]

But the fuel needed for them goes from the ground, in trucks. They have been stopped.

Yes indeed that will affect the NATO, but won't affect their combat operations. They are also getting fuel from Central Asian countries.

Other ongoing initiatives focus on reducing Pakistani GLOC dependence. During the 2007-2008 timeframe, the Defense Energy Supply Center Middle East (DESC-ME), a subordinate command of DLA responsible for bulk-fuel support to CENTCOM forces, successfully diversified refined fuel deliveries from oil-refining nations in the Caspian-Sea region. This reduced dependence on Pakistani fuel shifted approximately 20 percent of the daily fuel deliveries from Pakistani refineries to Caspian-Sea refineries, reducing the number of vulnerable fuel tankers driving through the insurgent-dense Khyber Pass.

The Salang tunnel and ring road are vital to the future economic growth and prosperity of Afghanistan. Kabul receives approximately 70 percent of fuel imports via the Salang tunnel route and approximately 60 percent of the daily, U.S. military fuel requirements originate from Central-Asian refineries and pass through the Salang tunnel. With the exception of bulk-fuel shipments, most GLOC supply deliveries after 2005 would originate from Pakistani ports and traverse the Pakistani GLOC.

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA498262

And mind you these figures are from 2006-2008. NATO dependence on Pakistan for supplies has reduced drastically since then.

 

[Awesome]

Close the airspace as well.

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Looks like the bravado about not needing Pakistan supply route is a bluff on the part of the US.

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all this talk of Russia stopping the Shipments is just a ploy to get NATO to buy the fuel from Russia.. Wait and watch

Its about the missile shield. Russia will have enough customers for fuel.

 

[Oldman1]

They have been doing it for years. I don't see this as new.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Supplies to NATO will not dry up, as US will find new ways to supply, but the question is: Pakistani route being most economical way for supplies, how long NATO can pay huge cost for other (expensive) routes. . NATO logistic bills will go sky high after a month.

 

[53fd]

It is a known fact that the NDN is twice as expensive as the Pakistan route is, & airdrops are even more expensive (with little capacity). That is if Russia is cooperative.

 

[Oldman1]

Supplies to NATO will not dry up, as US will find new ways to supply, but the question is: Pakistani route being most economical way for supplies, how long NATO can pay huge cost for other (expensive) routes. . NATO logistic bills will go sky high after a month.

Which is better? Its quicker and less chance of supplies of being destroyed or falling into enemy hands.

 

[Awesome]

Supplies to NATO will not dry up, as US will find new ways to supply, but the question is: Pakistani route being most economical way for supplies, how long NATO can pay huge cost for other (expensive) routes. . NATO logistic bills will go sky high after a month.

Whatever, be it good or bad for nato. At least we would be reducing a bullseye from our head for being a pro-US participant in this war.

We must adopt neutrality between this fight between Afghan Taliban and the US and emphasize on battling the Pakistani terrorists.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Long term high tech war and high tech supplies (huge) bills are too much for weak westren economies right now.

Supplies to NATO will not dry up, as US will find new ways to supply, but the question is: Pakistani route being most economical way for supplies, how long NATO can pay huge cost for other (expensive) routes. . NATO logistic bills will go sky high after a month.