Uqaab Force

[CriticalThought]

The original aim of the Special Air Service (SAS) was to go after enemy air assets behind enemy front lines. Today, the SAS performs the following roles:

• Boat troop – specialists in maritime skills including diving using rebreathers, using kayaks (canoes) and Rigid-hulled inflatable boats and often train with the Special Boat Service.[74]
• Air troop – experts in free fall parachuting and high altitude parachute operations including High Altitude Low Opening (HALO) and High Altitude High Opening (HAHO) techniques.[74]
• Mobility troop - specialists in using vehicles and are experts in desert warfare.[75] They are also trained in an advanced level of motor mechanics to field-repair any vehicular breakdown.[76]
• Mountain troop – specialists in Arctic combat and survival, using specialist equipment such as skis, snowshoes and mountain climbing techniques.

Special projects team
The special projects team is the official name for the Special Air Service anti–hijacking counter–terrorism team.[73] It is trained in Close Quarter Battle (CQB), sniper techniques and specialises in hostage rescue in buildings or on public transport

If SSW are modeled after SAS then they have to be best of the best - even above SSG. But as
@Irfan Baloch has pointed out, this does not seem to be the case. These guys seem to be a quick reaction force for base security. Though, given the multi-billion dollars of equipment in our bases, this role is very important and should still be performed by the best of the best. If they need to specialize for this then aspects like navigating harsh terrain etc. are less important. They need excellent shooting skills (shoot to kill, one shot kills) advanced equipment (IR based goggles to see through smoke, NVG), snipers, fast armored vehicles so they can punch into the hot zone etc. etc.

Now if pilot recovery is added then they need to be more like SSG and should get stealth helis for infil/exfil missions, unjammable/uninterceptable communication equipment etc.

I personally think all the hard behind enemy lines work should be performed by one group (SSG) and small companies should be allocated to PAF to be used as needed, along with the advanced equipment for those operations. This will allow SSW to concentrate on rapid response and battlefield superiority through pinpoint identification and accurate elimination of uglies in the least amount of time while causing minimal collateral damage.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Now thats proper badass.
SSW is sf like usaf parajumpers, SAS etc. QRF forces are composed of regular airmen with special training there is a difference.

 

[Zarvan]

Now thats proper badass.
SSW is sf like usaf parajumpers, SAS etc. QRF forces are composed of regular airmen with special training there is a difference.

I know but well if our budget increases massively in near future it's not bad idea to have Air Borne Troops under PAF. Also increase Marines under Navy

 

[CriticalThought]

I know but well if our budget increases massively in near future it's not bad idea to have Air Borne Troops under PAF. Also increase Marines under Navy

Even if you have a massive budget you should think about consolidation to guarantee a uniform level of quality. With a centralized SSG, one central body can ensure same level if quality across the forces. I think SSG should be the base and SSN/SSW should be badges on top of that.

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Even if you have a massive budget you should think about consolidation to guarantee a uniform level of quality. With a centralized SSG, one central body can ensure same level if quality across the forces. I think SSG should be the base and SSN/SSW should be badges on top of that.

That's the ideal scenario but its not gonna happen in the real world. Each branch jealously guards its own turf and they will loath to have these assets taken away from their direct command.

 

[CriticalThought]

That's the ideal scenario but its not gonna happen in the real world. Each branch jealously guards its own turf and they will loath to have these assets taken away from their direct command.

It's really sad because such turf wars and aggrandizement usually forms the basis of burgeoning mediocracy because no one wants to see the bigger picture. I think @MastanKhan posted a video on the Luftwaffe and how trying to mushroom into unrelated areas led to their downfall. I hope better sense prevails.

 

[Mumm-Ra]

It's really sad because such turf wars and aggrandizement usually forms the basis of burgeoning mediocracy because no one wants to see the bigger picture. I think @MastanKhan posted a video on the Luftwaffe and how trying to mushroom into unrelated areas led to their downfall. I hope better sense prevails.

Unfortunately that's the reality we live in. This is where institutions like the CJCSC have to play the role. But since, the army has laid exclusive claim to this post, the other branches will definitely fight tooth and nail to stop any such measures.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Nice Addition.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Even if you have a massive budget you should think about consolidation to guarantee a uniform level of quality. With a centralized SSG, one central body can ensure same level if quality across the forces. I think SSG should be the base and SSN/SSW should be badges on top of that.

For that the armed forces can have an organization similar to JSOC or SOCOM but these special assets cannot be ammalgamated under one force like SSN/SSW all under SSG. They can talk together, work together but cannot be jumbled together. That's where JSOC or SOCOM comes in.

I know but well if our budget increases massively in near future it's not bad idea to have Air Borne Troops under PAF. Also increase Marines under Navy

Yes it is essential to have an airborne division if need arises. Or atleast existing assets (special or regular) with such training. Just like we have a strike corps in bahawalpur. Remember, India also has a full blown airborne unit, so we should have this capability to counter India.