Update: Indian troops killed soldier after questioning: Pakistan Army

[karan.1970]

The Chinese News Sites seem to be leaning towards Indian Side of the story....

Roundup: Indian troops kill Pakistani trooper in Kashmir - China.org.cn

China Military Online English Edition

 

[notorious_eagle]

So far 2 IA soldiers and 4 PA soldiers have died since Jan 2013.PA casualties are double of IA.

Good Job

And what exactly has been strategically gained with the death of these individuals except for 6 families loosing their bread winners?

On Topic: India was well within her rights to shoot the PA soldier, as i said before the buck falls on PA officers and the platoon or company commander should be grilled for this. If past is something to go by with, it was obvious that IA was going to show no quarter and they didn't as expected.

 

[KRAIT]

In a heavily fortified border, Forward observation Soldiers are not in informal dressing, they always wear Army dresses, The soldier astray to the border in a broad day light, yet the pathetic India and Army reported Militant intruder crosses border and was killed. That's the credibility of your Army and Media. Instead of explaining the soldier in a loud speaker that he mistanly crossed the border you threatened him and shot him. There goes the myth of Professional IA myth.

Dude, your people are attacked wearing Military uniform.

He intruded in our territory. Our soldiers fired as they are supposed to fire at intruders. That's their job. As a Professional IA soldier.
Your soldier fired back and injured two of our soldiers. As a Professional PA soldier.
After gun fight, your soldier got Shahadat. IA recovered his body and gave it to PA. As a Professional Army.

 

[karan.1970]

In a heavily fortified border, Forward observation Soldiers are not in informal dressing, they always wear Army dresses, The soldier astray to the border in a broad day light, yet the pathetic India and Army reported Militant intruder crosses border and was killed. That's the credibility of your Army and Media. Instead of explaining the soldier in a loud speaker that he mistanly crossed the border you threatened him and shot him.

There goes the myth of Professional IA myth.

Well, first of all, the incident was in late evening so in this weather the concept of broad daylight does not hold

Secondly when challenged, the Pakistani trooper opened fire and signed his death warrant in the process

Thirdly, Indian forces are used to Pakistani army using their militant wings to push infiltrators on a regular basis into India, so any PA man following the route is automatically inviting the bullets

 

[notorious_eagle]

PA made an allegation that the soldier was questioned and then killed. We are asking for proof.

And Indian Army acted as professional and returned the body with full honors. And guess what, "Entire" body.

This is humorous

You are just contradicting yourself here. While you are asking PA to provide proof, you are not ready to provide PA with the proof that your soldier got beheaded

 

[Windjammer]

Pakistani soldier in Kashmir shot dead by Indian troops
A Pakistani soldier who strayed across the border separating the disputed territory of Kashmir has been shot dead by Indian troops, an incident that threatens to derail the ceasefire agreed a month ago.

The shooting comes after a similar incident in January in which five soldiers – three Pakistani; two Indian – were killed, heightening tension between the neighbours.

A Pakistani military official accused Indian troops of killing the soldier on Thursday after he identified himself and explained why he had entered the line of control that separates the Pakistani- and Indian-held sides of Kashmir. "We condemn such an inhuman and brutal act of killing our soldier after he had identified himself and explained his position," the military said.

Pakistan has asked India to conduct an investigation into the incident. But the Indian authorities blamed the Pakistani soldier, saying he opened fire when confronted by their troops.

Lieutenant Colonel Rajesh Kalia, a spokesman for the Indian army in Kashmir, said the soldier had been killed in a gun battle with Indian troops in which an Indian soldier was injured. He added: "Our troops challenged him. The individual resorted to indiscriminate firing. Our troops retaliated." He said Indian forces realised the dead man had been a soldier after the Pakistan army contacted its officers.

Insurgents have been fighting in Kashmir for more than two decades, demanding a separate state or merger with Muslim-majority Pakistan. India accuses Pakistan of financing and supporting insurgents in the region. Exchanges in the area are not uncommon but rarely result in fatalities.

Pakistani soldier in Kashmir shot dead by Indian troops | World news | guardian.co.uk

So now it's one Indian injured soldier instead of two..... when you tell a pack of lies, one often tends to slip on the numbers, no doubt in due course we will hear more versions of the lies created by the so called Indian professional army. !!

 

[notsuperstitious]

just went through few of the pages on the thread.... mostly filled with indians praising themselves..... but i don't understand one thing.... are all these SOP's and professionalism and peace gestures for pakistan and its army...... doesn't these SOP's apply to indian army?

Do you mean the infilterators who come into india under cover fire from pak army and then kill indians??? Do you know how many indians - soldiers and other have died last year on the border fighting that?

Do you know your own people in neelum valley have been protesting against it -i.e. militants bein sheltered and pushed into india by your own state?

And you claim PA is some kind of peaceloving unit on a thread where a pakistani armed soldier was killed on INDIAN SIDE ffs!

This is humorous

You are just contradicting yourself here. While you are asking PA to provide proof, you are not ready to provide PA with the proof that your soldier got beheaded

What proof do you want? pictures? We are not going to post pictures for your pleasure. Also, if we did, you will always and unquestionably say indians beheaded him for propaganda. Lets be honest, its impossible to prove to the extent of convicing the other party.

BTW why are you only questioning the beheading, your ISPR has said they never even killed those two jawans. Looks like you have not believed the entire story.

 

[truthseeker2010]

PA made an allegation that the soldier was questioned and then killed. We are asking for proof.

And Indian Army acted as professional and returned the body with full honors. And guess what, "Entire" body.

Do you have any proof that PA beheaded your soldier?

 

[KRAIT]

This is humorous
You are just contradicting yourself here. While you are asking PA to provide proof, you are not ready to provide PA with the proof that your soldier got beheaded

Actually you missed the point.

Beheading Incident occurred earlier.

You asked the proof then.
We ask the proof now.

You started this proof game. Come on sir, why Pakistan hasn't approach UN, US and China this time too ?

This hypocrisy is disturbing. We are using your arguments given that time, on this case.

 

[HAIDER]

Geo tv show the picture of Pak dead soldier, jawan was in uniform and seem he been killed point blank.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Do you have any proof that PA beheaded your soldier?

Do you have any proof our soldiers killed yours after arresting him???

See the dialogue needs to change to a different plane. As long as we are playing my army's words against your army's words, its going nowhere. Besides, your army even denied killing any indian soldiers, no, let alone beheading.

 

[Bratva]

Well, first of all, the incident was in late evening so in this weather the concept of broad daylight does not hold

Secondly when challenged, the Pakistani trooper opened fire and signed his death warrant in the process

Thirdly, Indian forces are used to Pakistani army using their militant wings to push infiltrators on a regular basis into India, so any PA man following the route is automatically inviting the bullets

Is 3 Pm considered late evening?

In previous cases, Pakistani soldier was returned unharmed when they crossed the border despite they were carrying the Gun.So stop giving pathetic excuses of infiltration. It just shows how trigger happy Indian Soldiers have become now a days, that they will even shoot those soldiers who don't challenge them or fire upon them.

Single Fully dressed soldiers goes astray and Indians challenge them with all his might. As if this soldier is carrying a nuke with him at that time that Indians needed that kind provocative response.

 

[karan.1970]

Geo tv show the picture of Pak dead soldier, jawan was in uniform and seem he been killed point blank.

How did you ascertain the bold part ?

 

[KRAIT]

Do you have any proof that PA beheaded your soldier?

IA said that the soldier was beheaded. And intelligence have doubt on who did it.

PA should give their proof of this incident. Shouldn't you ask PA to present the "proofs" to prove us wrong ?

 

[Bratva]

Dude, your people are attacked wearing Military uniform.

He intruded in our territory. Our soldiers fired as they are supposed to fire at intruders. That's their job. As a Professional IA soldier.
Your soldier fired back and injured two of our soldiers. As a Professional PA soldier.
After gun fight, your soldier got Shahadat. IA recovered his body and gave it to PA. As a Professional Army.

In 3 PM afternoon, indian soldiers can't identify a fully dressed soldier and an infiltrator. IA become color blind now? There are SOP that instead of firing upon astray soldiers, they will told in a loud speaker or in a loud voice that they have astrayed. If that person acts in a threatening way you are allowed to shoot back.

What Professional ARMY DID, that they pointed Gun across the soldier who didn't knew he is on the wrong side of border and though indians have one again crossed the border, now who is at fault here? IA should have cleared his misconceptions in a professional way not acted like mercenaries or hired thugs who shoot first and ask questions latter