What's new

Unwise choice for India to replay 1962 :Global Times

FOOLS_NIGHTMARE

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Sep 26, 2018
Messages
18,063
Reaction score
12
Country
United Kingdom
Location
United Kingdom
In mid-September 1962, Chairman Mao Zedong once told his colleagues, "I have already spent 10 days and nights to think about this issue, but I still fail to understand why Nehru chose to provoke us." Fifty-eight years later, today's Chinese people are sharing exactly the same confusion as Chairman Mao because of the current Indian administration's almost irrationally aggressive provocations on the China-India border. There is a very unfortunate and worrisome phenomenon at the present that every peace-loving individual from China and India must be cautious about: the current situation is alarmingly similar to that of 1962.

The first similarity is the Indian government's crude strategy of taking advantage of the international pressure currently being put on China in order to advance its own interest. In 1962, China went through probably its most isolated period: it was constantly in clashes with Western powers such as the US, which was also willing to support any state to contain China. Meanwhile, China was also just starting to break up with the Soviet Union in the Nikita Khrushchev era, which was once China's main partner during the 1950s. India, on the other hand, was one of the founders of the Non-Aligned Movement and one of the leaders of the Third World.

In 1962, the Nehru administration naively attempted to take advantage of China's disadvantaged international environment to advance India's territorial claims. The result was India's humiliating defeat. India consequentially lost its international status as a leading power of the Third World. The current Indian administration is adopting the same crude strategy and wishes to take advantage of the current China-US tensions.

But I would like to friendly remind India of the fact that the US has an unreliable historical record of abandoning its quasi-allies. Thus, India naively trusts the empty words of the so-called Indo-Pacific Strategy - which will achieve nothing except making India into a tool for the US agenda in the region.

The second similarity is the Indian government's aggressive stance and ignorance of friendly signals from the Chinese side. In April 1960, then Chinese premier Zhou Enlai and foreign minister Chen Yi visited India and participated in seven rounds of negotiations with Nehru, but the Nehru administration did not show any willingness to make concessions. Then Indian vice president Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan even used China-India relations to totally dismiss Chinese territorial claims, "What are few square miles of territory, compared to the friendship of 400 million Indians?"

Before the war broke out in 1962, Zhou wrote three letters to Nehru in October, attempting to stop the wheel of war by demonstrating Chinese desire for peace and friendliness. Nehru and his defense minister Krishna Menon, however, adopted the "Forward Policy" and frequently used aggressive rhetoric such as "wiping out the Chinese army" in public speeches despite the fact that they were not prepared for an actual war.

Similarly, certain officials in the current Indian administration have inherited this irresponsible attitude from the Nehru administration regarding border conflicts. Many Indian officials, including current Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh, have been stressing that India is no longer the India of 1962, explicitly encouraging nationalist zeal and over-confidence in Indian society.

The third similarity is that the Chinese side always feels confused about India's aggressive behaviors on the border issue. As aforementioned, Chairman Mao was quite confused why Nehru would choose to provoke China. India's provocation was totally unnecessary because China, as a strong supporter for the Non-Aligned Movement in the 1960s, was seriously willing to temporarily put aside territorial disputes in order to deepen its cooperation with India. Therefore, such provocation was also totally harmful to India's own interests because it was not in an advantageous position in terms of a military competition with China.

Today, Chinese people also fail to understand why India is launching this irrational aggression. But back then in 1962, China was somewhat internationally isolated and domestically slowly recovering from the famine caused by three years of natural disaster (1959-61). China today is a truly influential and prosperous country. In fact, it is the only state in the G20 that has positive second quarter GDP growth in 2020.

India, on the other hand, now has the second highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases and is horribly suffering from a severe economic crisis. Militarily provoking China with such a disadvantaged position will only bring harm and suffering to the Indian people. Thus, all peace-loving people from China and India must unite to oppose the military adventurism exercised by the current Indian administration.
1600192916359.png

The author is a research fellow of the Chengdu Institute of World Affairs. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

 
India hurts itself with border belligerence
The Pakistani army said on Sunday that one civilian was killed and four others were injured when Indian forces indiscriminately fired along the Line of Control (LOC) in the disputed Kashmir region, according to media reports. An army statement noted the Indian troops committed "unprovoked ceasefire violations along the LOC, targeting civil population with automatics and mortars in Hotspring and Rakhchikri sectors."

Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated since 2019. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status in August 2019, New Delhi has been concerned that Islamabad would infiltrate the regions and that more protests and uprisings may emerge there. Therefore, India has imposed coercive policy in the region. It's not surprising to see India open fire on the civilian population. New Delhi suspects that all Pakistanis in the region are so-called terrorists.

Pakistan has been quite restrained toward India's moves since August 2019. Pakistan is not as strong as India militarily, but the Kashmir issue is crucial to Pakistan. If the Pakistani government doesn't show a hard-line stance toward the disputed territory, it would lose public support. As a result, Pakistan makes tough response to every offensive move by India, and takes countermeasures when necessary.

While conflicts with China have not been effectively eased, why has India remained offensive toward Pakistan? This is mainly because both the Indian military and government have a sense of superiority toward Pakistan. Such a sentiment leads India to take pre-emptive strikes toward its neighbor. Furthermore, rising Hindu nationalism is another factor resulting in India's moves.

Apart from disputes with China and Pakistan, India also has border disputes with other neighboring countries, such as Nepal. The Indian army might boast that it is fully prepared for a two and a half front war - against China, Pakistan and the internal security threats - it's as a matter of fact not capable of meeting such a challenge. A multi-front war is a great challenge for any country.

In a bid to enhance its military capability, India is purchasing advanced weaponry from Russia and Western countries. Meanwhile, New Delhi is trying to win support from the international community, especially Western countries. In recent years, India has moved closer to the US, engaging in increasing military cooperation and signing more military pacts with the US and its allies.

However, these measures will not meet India's expectations in dealing with China and Pakistan at the same time.

If India were to wage massive armed clashes or even war with China and Pakistan simultaneously, no country would likely help India apart from conditionally providing some weaponry.

India's current neighborhood policies, especially the ones concerning China and Pakistan, has plunged the country into an unfavorable situation.

Why can't India develop positive and friendly relations with its neighboring countries? India has a great power mentality. It regards itself as a hegemon in South Asia and believes all neighboring countries should follow its lead.

Several factors contribute to its negative relations with China. First, its failure in the China-India border war of 1962 has been seen as a burning shame of Indians. Second, China has a close relationship with India's foe Pakistan. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status, China called for a discussion on this issue at the United Nations Security Council, which piled pressure on India. Furthermore, China has recently carried out increasing cooperation with South Asian countries. India sees this as China encroaching India's sphere of influence.

For any country that hopes to advance its development, a peaceful and stable environment with its neighbors is essential. India has become a destroyer of regional peace and stability, which has played a negative role in its own advancement, and that of other countries. If India intends to achieve its dream of becoming a great power, it is vital to improve ties with neighboring countries.
 
India hurts itself with border belligerence
The Pakistani army said on Sunday that one civilian was killed and four others were injured when Indian forces indiscriminately fired along the Line of Control (LOC) in the disputed Kashmir region, according to media reports. An army statement noted the Indian troops committed "unprovoked ceasefire violations along the LOC, targeting civil population with automatics and mortars in Hotspring and Rakhchikri sectors."

Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated since 2019. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status in August 2019, New Delhi has been concerned that Islamabad would infiltrate the regions and that more protests and uprisings may emerge there. Therefore, India has imposed coercive policy in the region. It's not surprising to see India open fire on the civilian population. New Delhi suspects that all Pakistanis in the region are so-called terrorists.

Pakistan has been quite restrained toward India's moves since August 2019. Pakistan is not as strong as India militarily, but the Kashmir issue is crucial to Pakistan. If the Pakistani government doesn't show a hard-line stance toward the disputed territory, it would lose public support. As a result, Pakistan makes tough response to every offensive move by India, and takes countermeasures when necessary.

While conflicts with China have not been effectively eased, why has India remained offensive toward Pakistan? This is mainly because both the Indian military and government have a sense of superiority toward Pakistan. Such a sentiment leads India to take pre-emptive strikes toward its neighbor. Furthermore, rising Hindu nationalism is another factor resulting in India's moves.

Apart from disputes with China and Pakistan, India also has border disputes with other neighboring countries, such as Nepal. The Indian army might boast that it is fully prepared for a two and a half front war - against China, Pakistan and the internal security threats - it's as a matter of fact not capable of meeting such a challenge. A multi-front war is a great challenge for any country.

In a bid to enhance its military capability, India is purchasing advanced weaponry from Russia and Western countries. Meanwhile, New Delhi is trying to win support from the international community, especially Western countries. In recent years, India has moved closer to the US, engaging in increasing military cooperation and signing more military pacts with the US and its allies.

However, these measures will not meet India's expectations in dealing with China and Pakistan at the same time.

If India were to wage massive armed clashes or even war with China and Pakistan simultaneously, no country would likely help India apart from conditionally providing some weaponry.

India's current neighborhood policies, especially the ones concerning China and Pakistan, has plunged the country into an unfavorable situation.

Why can't India develop positive and friendly relations with its neighboring countries? India has a great power mentality. It regards itself as a hegemon in South Asia and believes all neighboring countries should follow its lead.

Several factors contribute to its negative relations with China. First, its failure in the China-India border war of 1962 has been seen as a burning shame of Indians. Second, China has a close relationship with India's foe Pakistan. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status, China called for a discussion on this issue at the United Nations Security Council, which piled pressure on India. Furthermore, China has recently carried out increasing cooperation with South Asian countries. India sees this as China encroaching India's sphere of influence.

For any country that hopes to advance its development, a peaceful and stable environment with its neighbors is essential. India has become a destroyer of regional peace and stability, which has played a negative role in its own advancement, and that of other countries. If India intends to achieve its dream of becoming a great power, it is vital to improve ties with neighboring countries.


Source: globaltimes.cn

India hurts itself with border belligerence


By Liu Zongyi Published: 2020/9/15 13:22:27

511da9c3-b2ab-4e0c-80ce-a8f104eedc0a.jpeg

Activists of Pakistan People Party (PPP) Kashmir protest against the recent killing of civilians in Indian-controlled Kashmir, in Karachi, Pakistan on July 4. Photo: AFP

The Pakistani army said on Sunday that one civilian was killed and four others were injured when Indian forces indiscriminately fired along the Line of Control (LOC) in the disputed Kashmir region, according to media reports. An army statement noted the Indian troops committed "unprovoked ceasefire violations along the LOC, targeting civil population with automatics and mortars in Hotspring and Rakhchikri sectors."

Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated since 2019. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status in August 2019, New Delhi has been concerned that Islamabad would infiltrate the regions and that more protests and uprisings may emerge there. Therefore, India has imposed coercive policy in the region. It's not surprising to see India open fire on the civilian population. New Delhi suspects that all Pakistanis in the region are so-called terrorists.

Pakistan has been quite restrained toward India's moves since August 2019. Pakistan is not as strong as India militarily, but the Kashmir issue is crucial to Pakistan. If the Pakistani government doesn't show a hard-line stance toward the disputed territory, it would lose public support. As a result, Pakistan makes tough response to every offensive move by India, and takes countermeasures when necessary.

While conflicts with China have not been effectively eased, why has India remained offensive toward Pakistan? This is mainly because both the Indian military and government have a sense of superiority toward Pakistan. Such a sentiment leads India to take pre-emptive strikes toward its neighbor.

Furthermore, rising Hindu nationalism is another factor resulting in India's moves.

Apart from disputes with China and Pakistan, India also has border disputes with other
neighboring countries, such as Nepal. The Indian army might boast that it is fully prepared for a two and a half front war - against China, Pakistan and the internal security threats - it's as a matter of fact not capable of meeting such a challenge. A multi-front war is a great challenge for any country.

In a bid to enhance its military capability, India is purchasing advanced weaponry from Russia and Western countries. Meanwhile, New Delhi is trying to win support from the international community, especially Western countries. In recent years, India has moved closer to the US, engaging in increasing military cooperation and signing more military pacts with the US and its allies.

However, these measures will not meet India's expectations in dealing with China and Pakistan at the same time.

If India were to wage massive armed clashes or even war with China and Pakistan simultaneously, no country would likely help India apart from conditionally providing some weaponry.

India's current neighborhood policies, especially the ones concerning China and Pakistan, has plunged the country into an unfavorable situation.

Why can't India develop positive and friendly relations with its neighboring countries? India has a great power mentality. It regards itself as a hegemon in South Asia and believes all neighboring countries should follow its lead.

Several factors contribute to its negative relations with China. First, its failure in the China-India border war of 1962 has been seen as a burning shame of Indians. Second, China has a close relationship with India's foe Pakistan. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status, China called for a discussion on this issue at the United Nations Security Council, which piled pressure on India.

Furthermore, China has recently carried out increasing cooperation with South Asian countries. India sees this as China encroaching India's sphere of influence.

For any country that hopes to advance its development, a peaceful and stable environment with its neighbors is essential. India has become a destroyer of regional peace and stability, which has played a negative role in its own advancement, and that of other countries. If India intends to achieve its dream of becoming a great power, it is vital to improve ties with neighboring countries.

The author is secretary-general of South Asia and China Center at Shanghai Institutes for International Studies, a visiting fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies, Renmin University of China and a distinguished fellow of the China (Kunming) South Asia & Southeast Asia Institute. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn
 
globaltimes.cn

India hurts itself with border belligerence
Global Times



India hurts itself with border belligerence

By Liu Zongyi Source: Global Times Published: 2020/9/15 13:22:27

511da9c3-b2ab-4e0c-80ce-a8f104eedc0a.jpeg

Activists of Pakistan People Party (PPP) Kashmir protest against the recent killing of civilians in Indian-controlled Kashmir, in Karachi, Pakistan on July 4. Photo: AFP

The Pakistani army said on Sunday that one civilian was killed and four others were injured when Indian forces indiscriminately fired along the Line of Control (LOC) in the disputed Kashmir region, according to media reports. An army statement noted the Indian troops committed "unprovoked ceasefire violations along the LOC, targeting civil population with automatics and mortars in Hotspring and Rakhchikri sectors."

Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated since 2019. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status in August 2019, New Delhi has been concerned that Islamabad would infiltrate the regions and that more protests and uprisings may emerge there. Therefore, India has imposed coercive policy in the region. It's not surprising to see India open fire on the civilian population. New Delhi suspects that all Pakistanis in the region are so-called terrorists.

Pakistan has been quite restrained toward India's moves since August 2019. Pakistan is not as strong as India militarily, but the Kashmir issue is crucial to Pakistan. If the Pakistani government doesn't show a hard-line stance toward the disputed territory, it would lose public support. As a result, Pakistan makes tough response to every offensive move by India, and takes countermeasures when necessary.

While conflicts with China have not been effectively eased, why has India remained offensive toward Pakistan? This is mainly because both the Indian military and government have a sense of superiority toward Pakistan. Such a sentiment leads India to take pre-emptive strikes toward its neighbor.

Furthermore, rising Hindu nationalism is another factor resulting in India's moves.

Apart from disputes with China and Pakistan, India also has border disputes with other
neighboring countries, such as Nepal. The Indian army might boast that it is fully prepared for a two and a half front war - against China, Pakistan and the internal security threats - it's as a matter of fact not capable of meeting such a challenge. A multi-front war is a great challenge for any country.

In a bid to enhance its military capability, India is purchasing advanced weaponry from Russia and Western countries. Meanwhile, New Delhi is trying to win support from the international community, especially Western countries. In recent years, India has moved closer to the US, engaging in increasing military cooperation and signing more military pacts with the US and its allies.

However, these measures will not meet India's expectations in dealing with China and Pakistan at the same time.

If India were to wage massive armed clashes or even war with China and Pakistan simultaneously, no country would likely help India apart from conditionally providing some weaponry.

India's current neighborhood policies, especially the ones concerning China and Pakistan, has plunged the country into an unfavorable situation.

Why can't India develop positive and friendly relations with its neighboring countries? India has a great power mentality. It regards itself as a hegemon in South Asia and believes all neighboring countries should follow its lead.

Several factors contribute to its negative relations with China. First, its failure in the China-India border war of 1962 has been seen as a burning shame of Indians. Second, China has a close relationship with India's foe Pakistan. After India revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status, China called for a discussion on this issue at the United Nations Security Council, which piled pressure on India.

Furthermore, China has recently carried out increasing cooperation with South Asian countries. India sees this as China encroaching India's sphere of influence.

For any country that hopes to advance its development, a peaceful and stable environment with its neighbors is essential. India has become a destroyer of regional peace and stability, which has played a negative role in its own advancement, and that of other countries. If India intends to achieve its dream of becoming a great power, it is vital to improve ties with neighboring countries.

The author is secretary-general of South Asia and China Center at Shanghai Institutes for International Studies, a visiting fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies, Renmin University of China and a distinguished fellow of the China (Kunming) South Asia & Southeast Asia Institute. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn
Very trigger happy towards unarmed civilians. But they won't do the same in Ladhak.
 
brother rott , what is sad? indian attitude toward smaller neighbors or me reposting the article with due credit to the Global Times?
 
Last edited:
In mid-September 1962, Chairman Mao Zedong once told his colleagues, "I have already spent 10 days and nights to think about this issue, but I still fail to understand why Nehru chose to provoke us." Fifty-eight years later, today's Chinese people are sharing exactly the same confusion as Chairman Mao because of the current Indian administration's almost irrationally aggressive provocations on the China-India border. There is a very unfortunate and worrisome phenomenon at the present that every peace-loving individual from China and India must be cautious about: the current situation is alarmingly similar to that of 1962.

The first similarity is the Indian government's crude strategy of taking advantage of the international pressure currently being put on China in order to advance its own interest. In 1962, China went through probably its most isolated period: it was constantly in clashes with Western powers such as the US, which was also willing to support any state to contain China. Meanwhile, China was also just starting to break up with the Soviet Union in the Nikita Khrushchev era, which was once China's main partner during the 1950s. India, on the other hand, was one of the founders of the Non-Aligned Movement and one of the leaders of the Third World.

In 1962, the Nehru administration naively attempted to take advantage of China's disadvantaged international environment to advance India's territorial claims. The result was India's humiliating defeat. India consequentially lost its international status as a leading power of the Third World. The current Indian administration is adopting the same crude strategy and wishes to take advantage of the current China-US tensions.

But I would like to friendly remind India of the fact that the US has an unreliable historical record of abandoning its quasi-allies. Thus, India naively trusts the empty words of the so-called Indo-Pacific Strategy - which will achieve nothing except making India into a tool for the US agenda in the region.

The second similarity is the Indian government's aggressive stance and ignorance of friendly signals from the Chinese side. In April 1960, then Chinese premier Zhou Enlai and foreign minister Chen Yi visited India and participated in seven rounds of negotiations with Nehru, but the Nehru administration did not show any willingness to make concessions. Then Indian vice president Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan even used China-India relations to totally dismiss Chinese territorial claims, "What are few square miles of territory, compared to the friendship of 400 million Indians?"

Before the war broke out in 1962, Zhou wrote three letters to Nehru in October, attempting to stop the wheel of war by demonstrating Chinese desire for peace and friendliness. Nehru and his defense minister Krishna Menon, however, adopted the "Forward Policy" and frequently used aggressive rhetoric such as "wiping out the Chinese army" in public speeches despite the fact that they were not prepared for an actual war.

Similarly, certain officials in the current Indian administration have inherited this irresponsible attitude from the Nehru administration regarding border conflicts. Many Indian officials, including current Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh, have been stressing that India is no longer the India of 1962, explicitly encouraging nationalist zeal and over-confidence in Indian society.

The third similarity is that the Chinese side always feels confused about India's aggressive behaviors on the border issue. As aforementioned, Chairman Mao was quite confused why Nehru would choose to provoke China. India's provocation was totally unnecessary because China, as a strong supporter for the Non-Aligned Movement in the 1960s, was seriously willing to temporarily put aside territorial disputes in order to deepen its cooperation with India. Therefore, such provocation was also totally harmful to India's own interests because it was not in an advantageous position in terms of a military competition with China.

Today, Chinese people also fail to understand why India is launching this irrational aggression. But back then in 1962, China was somewhat internationally isolated and domestically slowly recovering from the famine caused by three years of natural disaster (1959-61). China today is a truly influential and prosperous country. In fact, it is the only state in the G20 that has positive second quarter GDP growth in 2020.

India, on the other hand, now has the second highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases and is horribly suffering from a severe economic crisis. Militarily provoking China with such a disadvantaged position will only bring harm and suffering to the Indian people. Thus, all peace-loving people from China and India must unite to oppose the military adventurism exercised by the current Indian administration.
View attachment 670154
The author is a research fellow of the Chengdu Institute of World Affairs. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

Yeah it is a unwise choice to get beat up now isn't it
 
Today, Chinese people also fail to understand why India is launching this irrational aggression. But back then in 1962, China was somewhat internationally isolated and domestically slowly recovering from the famine caused by three years of natural disaster (1959-61). China today is a truly influential and prosperous country. In fact, it is the only state in the G20 that has positive second quarter GDP growth in 2020.

India, on the other hand, now has the second highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases and is horribly suffering from a severe economic crisis. Militarily provoking China with such a disadvantaged position will only bring harm and suffering to the Indian people. Thus, all peace-loving people from China and India must unite to oppose the military adventurism exercised by the current Indian administration.

The author is a research fellow of the Chengdu Institute of World Affairs. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn


You answer your own question.
Did it occur that China is creating this crisis because it is in a position of strength compared to India ?
 
You answer your own question.
Did it occur that China is creating this crisis because it is in a position of strength compared to India ?
India created a crisis for China in 1959-1962 and 2017 ... China is just returning the favor this year.
 
Source: globaltimes.cn

India hurts itself with border belligerence


By Liu Zongyi Published: 2020/9/15 13:22:27

511da9c3-b2ab-4e0c-80ce-a8f104eedc0a.jpeg

Activists of Pakistan People Party (PPP) Kashmir protest against the recent killing of civilians in Indian-controlled Kashmir, in Karachi, Pakistan on July 4. Photo: AFP

PPP is a progressive, secular and liberal party in Pakistan. If PPP members are anti-India enough to come out and protest, that means India really fucked up, since PPP typically doesn't take to anger very easily.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom