Unsatisfied with the Xi's reform plans

[cirr]

Having studied the “Decisions“（not the Announcement），I have come to the conclusion that the reforms that are to be implemented in the next 7-10 years are pretty comprehensive and surpass my expectations in some areas。

If executed successfully and to intent and design，China will witness a tranformational change for the good in every field that really matters to the country，and Xi（together with Li）would have earned his/their place in the history book of modern China along with the likes of Mao and Deng。

 

[Cyberian]

President Xi sounds like Gorbachev to me. He'll probably cause some sort of cataclysmic disaster for China under his tenure.

The hyenas are silently watching and waiting.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

President Xi sounds like Gorbachev to me. He'll probably cause some sort of cataclysmic disaster for China under his tenure.

The hyenas are silently watching and waiting.

Xi is the opposite to Gorbachev, but there was the Chinese Gorbachev, but they never got chance to be promoted as the Chinese President.

 

[INDIC]

Aren't you Chinese happy with the end on the restriction to one child policy.

 

[Genesis]

Aren't you Chinese happy with the end on the restriction to one child policy.

You do realize the more people you have the less civilized you are right?

Germany and Japan decreasing population, US also decreasing if not for the immigrants, Mexicans, Indians, Chinese and Eastern Europeans and what not.

One Child policy is useless at this point, Chinese families are not having more children regardless, and the ones that will would have had them regardless.

I know Indians like their "freedom," but get back to me when India is so overpopulated that there won't be enough jobs, or food to feed everyone, get back to me when we are on the fast track to decreasing population, while India will go over 2 billion.

Over population is not a myth, imagine if we had 400 million extra people, our per capita would have been the same as India's but instead, well, the results speak for themselves don't they.


@tranquilium @ChineseTiger1986

[URL='http://xiaoxue.hujiang.com/cyu/chushiyouming/']出师有名, I'm sure you know what this means, but for those that don't it means going to war with justification.

Right now any thing we do is in the name of communism, dictatorship, repression and injustice, as well as backwardness.

Image has always been important to justify things, the US can do certain things, but we can't. Not because we would do it worse or harsher, in fact they treat minorities way worse, since we only see people as poor or rich not so much as race. Please don't bring up Tibetans and what not, the thing about Chinese minorities is the difference is minimal, and hardly noticeable if you don't ask.

IF we want to be a super power we need to be able to say we are justice, we are freedom, we are prosperity, and we are the future.

Right now we are non of those things and thus it really takes a little something off our effectiveness.


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[INDIC]

You do realize the more people you have the less civilized you are right?

Germany and Japan decreasing population, US also decreasing if not for the immigrants, Mexicans, Indians, Chinese and Eastern Europeans and what not.

One Child policy is useless at this point, Chinese families are not having more children regardless, and the ones that will would have had them regardless.

I know Indians like their "freedom," but get back to me when India is so overpopulated that there won't be enough jobs, or food to feed everyone, get back to me when we are on the fast track to decreasing population, while India will go over 2 billion.

Over population is not a myth, imagine if we had 400 million extra people, our per capita would have been the same as India's but instead, well, the results speak for themselves don't they.

China will have 25% of the population above 65 years by 2050. So high birthrate in India a problem for us but 1 child policy seems like a problem too.

 

[Genesis]

China will have 25% of the population above 65% by 2050. So high birthrate in India a problem for us but 1 child policy seems like a problem too.

But at some point we will recover, it may put us into serious problems, but it will get better, maybe 20-40 years, but we will stabilize after that. At some point, our population will get back to normal, as the generation with no one child policy will be gone, and the one child policy people become the old population, by then we may even have more young then old since we relaxed the law, and as it continue to get relaxed. Though the difference will be minimal as I said as we move more and more to developed, less and less children will be born as a result.


Tell me what is the Indian solution to the population problem? I'm not making fun or anything, it's seriously a problem that I don't see a way of solving without some form of one child policy.

 

[INDIC]

But at some point we will recover, it may put us into serious problems, but it will get better, maybe 20-40 years, but we will stabilize after that. At some point, our population will get back to normal, as the generation with no one child policy will be gone, and the one child policy people become the old population, by then we may even have more young then old since we relaxed the law, and as it continue to get relaxed. Though the difference will be minimal as I said as we move more and more to developed, less and less children will be born as a result.


Tell me what is the Indian solution to the population problem? I'm not making fun or anything, it's seriously a problem that I don't see a way of solving without some form of one child policy.

India population problem exists because many people have more than two kids very common in villages and among poor people.

 

[shuttler]

President Xi sounds like Gorbachev to me. He'll probably cause some sort of cataclysmic disaster for China under his tenure.
The hyenas are silently watching and waiting.

hyenas are usa, brits japan france russia .............................india!

 

[JSCh]

The business class has never has much power in Chinese thousand years old history. Would that change in the future?

It was said that Chinese today care only about money. But would businessman in Chinese society be held as prestigious as say Tony Stark(Iron man) or Bruce Wayne(Batman)?

How would 李超人 compare to say Bill Gates or Warren Buffet?

Sometimes when you think about it, maybe Chinese society is more egalitarian than most. We have this tall poppy syndrome(眼红), nobody is allowed to have too much advantage.

故木秀于林，风必摧之；堆出于岸，流必湍之；行高于人，众必非之。前鉴不远，覆车继轨。This is written nearly two thousand years ago.

It is neither good nor bad, it is just different. Just like people has different character. That differences mean that Chinese society has to be governed differently and take different path.

 

[Genesis]

The business class has never has much power in Chinese thousand years old history. Would that change in the future?

It was said that Chinese today care only about money. But would businessman in Chinese society be held as prestigious as say Tony Stark(Iron man) or Bruce Wayne(Batman)?

How would 李超人 compare to say Bill Gates or Warren Buffet?

Sometimes when you think about it, maybe Chinese society is more egalitarian than most. We have this tall poppy syndrome(眼红), nobody is allowed to have too much advantage.

故木秀于林，风必摧之；堆出于岸，流必湍之；行高于人，众必非之。前鉴不远，覆车继轨。This is written nearly two thousand years ago.

It is neither good nor bad, it is just different. Just like people has different character. That differences mean that Chinese society has to be governed differently and take different path.

Businessmen have always been looked down as a rule in history of humanity. It's only recently that businessmen are respected.

Nobility never married the rich simply due to their low social status in European society, only recently did that change. It's not a hidden fact or news.

IT is very apparent that Chinese innovation based businessmen are less and less connected to the party and thus takes no order from them.

Being in the West I can say, people are people, crazy girlfriends are no less crazy in Canada as they are in China.

@INDIC

I get why it happens, same here in China, but what is the solution? Unless you think India can handle 2 Billion people and still be able to become developed?

 

[INDIC]

@INDIC

I get why it happens, same here in China, but what is the solution? Unless you think India can handle 2 Billion people and still be able to become developed?

Spreading awareness among people about the benefits of having less kids.

 

[JSCh]

Businessmen have always been looked down as a rule in history of humanity. It's only recently that businessmen are respected.

Nobility never married the rich simply due to their low social status in European society, only recently did that change. It's not a hidden fact or news.

IT is very apparent that Chinese innovation based businessmen are less and less connected to the party and thus takes no order from them.

Being in the West I can say, people are people, crazy girlfriends are no less crazy in Canada as they are in China.

@INDIC

I get why it happens, same here in China, but what is the solution? Unless you think India can handle 2 Billion people and still be able to become developed?

We do not have this,
wikipedia - House of Medici

I do not exactly get what you means. Are we talking HuaWei, Lenovo? Or SOE reform?