Unlike China, India has growth with values: PM Manmohan

[Srinivas]

Unlike China, India has growth with values: PM Manmohan​

WASHINGTON: Bull in a China shop is not an expression one would normally use to describe India’s mild-mannered Prime Minister, but at a Washington think-tank on Monday evening Manmohan Singh was anything but delicate on India’s newly nettlesome neighbor before an audience that is largely in thrall of the Middle Kingdom’s meteoric rise on the global stage.

In candid remarks that were keenly scrutinized in the context of New Delhi’s niggling troubles with Beijing and US overtures to the country, Dr Singh offered an Indian perspective on rising China that included an admission that lately, ''there is but a certain amount of assertiveness on the Chinese part. I don't fully understand the reasons for it."

Singh prefaced that comment by telling his audience that India recognized that it has a long standing border problem with China which it was trying to resolve it through dialogue. In the meanwhile both countries have agreed that pending the resolution of the border problem, peace and tranquility should be maintained in the border line. ''Having said that I should say that I have received these assurances from Chinese leadership from the highest level,'' he added, suggesting that Beijing was not entirely sticking to the script.

But for that one discordant, complaining note vis-à-vis Beijing, Singh indicated that India was on the same page as the rest of the world on China, wanting to prepare for its peaceful rise as a major power. ''So, engagement is the right strategy for India as well as for United States. We ourselves have tried very hard to engage China in the last five years and today China is one of our major trading partners,'' he said.

Singh remarks came against the backdrop of President Obama’s own visit to China last week in course of which some Indian analysts felt he (Obama) was sub-contracting or outsourcing oversight of South Asian peace and security to the East Asian giant and accepting it as a rising if not equal partner, to the detriment of India. That episode came on the heels of India’s renewed tensions with China on the border issue, and over the travels of Dalai Lama to regions Beijing regards as disputed.

Singh was also unexpectedly tetchy about comparisons between Indian and Chinese economic growth, saying while there is no doubt that Chinese performance is superior to India's, ''there are other values which are important than the growth of Gross Domestic Product.''

''I think the respect for fundamental human rights, the respect for the rule of law, respect for multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious rights, I think those have values. So, even the Indian perforce with regard to the GDP might not be as good as the Chinese, certainly I would not like to choose the Chinese path," he said in unusually blunt remarks that constituted a criticism of the Chinese model.

Singh’s candid public statements on China, Pakistan (no purposeful talks till it abjures terrorism and acts on 26/11), and Afghanistan (insisting India will stay the course against Taliban and asking US and international community to do the same militarily) set the stage for his meeting with US President Barack Obama on Tuesday following a ceremonial state welcome on the South Lawns of the White House.

 

[bigmoneymaker]

these values you mentioned will be retrieved during the prosperity of economy. without booming economy to sustain daily lifes with dignity, how can you stand properly and talk about all these abstracted values??

 

[deckingraj]

these values you mentioned will be retrieved during the prosperity of economy. without booming economy to sustain daily lifes with dignity, how can you stand properly and talk about all these abstracted values??

I have a slightly different perspective...I guess what he is saying is that there is no doubt that China's economy boomed and is doing better than India however India is picking up as well..... Though we appreciate China's booming economy but their focus is primarily on GDP where as we want to achieve GDP backed by all the abstracted values like "fundamental human rights, the respect for the rule of law, respect for multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious rights"...Since we are a democracy we cannot shy away from the above mentioned important values...Democracy will always result in things being slower as compared to Authoritarian regime but if i look at the package i am more than willing to pay that price...

 

[skeptic9]

Well, I think both India and China are growing without any values.

I can tell from my firsthand experience that India is one of the most corrupt societies in the world (comparing to my online perception on other socities) , but in China govt. has a monopoly on corruption, that's just about close.

 

[SMC]

I do not know the history of ethnic minorities and religious minorities in India (i.e. I don't know WTF i am talking about): PM Manmohan Singh

 

[Solomon2]

Unlike China, India has growth with values: PM Manmohan​

''I think the respect for fundamental human rights, the respect for the rule of law, respect for multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious rights, I think those have values. So, even the Indian perforce with regard to the GDP might not be as good as the Chinese, certainly I would not like to choose the Chinese path," he said in unusually blunt remarks that constituted a criticism of the Chinese model.

The label "smarmy bastard" pops into my mind. Somehow I have to eliminate these prejudices - or else justify them.

 

[Srinivas]

The label "smarmy bastard" pops into my mind. Somehow I have to eliminate these prejudices - or else justify them.

who cares what is in your mind, every body will have some evil or devilish thoughts.

 

[gpit]

..... Though we appreciate China's booming economy but their focus is primarily on GDP where as we want to achieve GDP backed by all the abstracted values like "fundamental human rights, the respect for the rule of law, respect for multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious rights"......

In general, a human’s basic right is food, then shelter, then education, then freedom of express/voting… and so on towards higher level of rights.

I don’t understand why people simply don’t comprehend the simple law.

Given you massive hunger and malnutrition, your country lack BASIC human rights, how could your voting system be healthy?

If 10-Rupee can buy a vote from street baggar whose survival is on a morsel of food, how could your 30% parliament member not be criminal or criminal suspect, how could your country not be corrupted…

Dude, seriously, stop stouting YOUR incredible democracy, start working in a credible way for your vast poors, and THEN to build your healthy democracy.

 

[skeptic9]

In general, a human’s basic right is food, then shelter, then education, then freedom of express/voting… and so on towards higher level of rights.

Are you sure?

Are these rights of a human being?

1st right of a human is FREEDOM, freedom to fulfill his requirements. No one is entitled to get food, cloth, shelter etc etc as their 'rights'; much less education. What you said are basic necessities of a human and then you lumped it with new age propaganda.

 

[Red Dwarf]

What he said was India is no way near China and it is not going to become even half of china in 20-40 years.

 

[SMC]

Human rights and freedom are ambiguous terms. Each has their own meanings to them. We were discussing this in class. You might think everyone has one definition of freedom. You'd be wrong.

 

[gpit]

Are you sure?

Are these rights of a human being?

1st right of a human is FREEDOM, freedom to fulfill his requirements. No one is entitled to get food, cloth, shelter etc etc as their 'rights'; much less education. What you said are basic necessities of a human and than you lumped it with new age propaganda.

how can a hungary person enjoy freedom? If he can't fulfil his requirement for food, he can never be free, he can't even walk or even live. He can only be a slave of somebody else.

 

[skeptic9]

how can a hungary person enjoy freedom? If he can't fulfil his requirement for food, he can never be free, but be a slave of somebody else.

Any wild goat is free and well fed to its own capacity.

Why someone would feed you for free if you don't serve him/her? If govt. start fulfilling everyone's "rights" for food, shelter and whatnot why someone would even work at first place?

Did you realize the flaw in your argument?

 

[skeptic9]

*database error glitch

 

[deckingraj]

In general, a human’s basic right is food, then shelter, then education, then freedom of express/voting… and so on towards higher level of rights.

I don’t understand why people simply don’t comprehend the simple law.

You don't because you cannot....refer to post 9 you might get a clue about it...

Given you massive hunger and malnutrition, your country lack BASIC human rights, how could your voting system be healthy?

So basically crap the voting system till you finish the hunger and malnutrition...What a genious thought...

If 10-Rupee can buy a vote from street baggar whose survival is on a morsel of food, how could your 30% parliament member not be criminal or criminal suspect, how could your country not be corrupted…

And there is no corruption in China...and US as well right???

Dude, seriously, stop stouting YOUR incredible democracy, start working in a credible way for your vast poors, and THEN to build your healthy democracy.

And what would be that credible way??? Follow what china is doing? You have some serious problems don't u??? Cant you even understand the context in which things are written??? Is that the way US tackled her problems???

Your way of solving the issue is just throw democracy out of the window....just look at the number of poor's that we had a decade back and what we have now....Having said it there is hell lot to be done...we have tried the democracy with socialist approach and reached on the verge of bankruptcy...then came this man whose thoughts you are rebuking and India came back on the path of progress...Now we are improving..Though we know that still lot has to be done yet democracy is the way to go...

In other words solve all the problems but stick to path of democracy...

really was that so hard to understand???