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Except the police don't have that right at all.

I have already explained why the police can't do what they did.

Read the laws I posted.

Hi,

You are correct---the captain simply cannot ask you to leave---and you do not need to vacate your seat---if there is no criminal activity.

The police---they cannot force you to leave---they cannot ORDER you to leave---because NO CRIME has been committed---.

The police AUTHORITY does not come into force---because NO CRIME has been committed.

The presence of police is an issue---because NO CRIME was committed---.

And it wasn't even Police--it was more like BAGGAGE SECURITY personal.

United and the city of Chicago are in deep sh-it.
 
Hi,

You are correct---the captain simply cannot ask you to leave---and you do not need to vacate your seat---if there is no criminal activity.

The police---they cannot force you to leave---they cannot ORDER you to leave---because NO CRIME has been committed---.

The police AUTHORITY does not come into force---because NO CRIME has been committed.

The presence of police is an issue---because NO CRIME was committed---.

And it wasn't even Police--it was more like BAGGAGE SECURITY personal.

United and the city of Chicago are in deep sh-it.

As said numerous time, United can refuse service to anyone, it was their plane, they have the ultimate right to held over who can be on broad provided the refusal of service, under is not broken any federal law, specifically, Civil Right Act 1964.

The usage of the plane, which is a properties of United Airline, at a stage they can ask you to leave with or without reason, so long they have to compensate you if you had paid for the service, or so long they did not appear to be discriminating you on behalf of your race, religion, age, disability and gender.

If the passenger is not willing to corporate, then at that point, the passenger have broken a federal law.
 
As said numerous time, United can refuse service to anyone, it was their plane, they have the ultimate right to held over who can be on broad provided the refusal of service, under is not broken any federal law, specifically, Civil Right Act 1964.

The usage of the plane, which is a properties of United Airline, at a stage they can ask you to leave with or without reason, so long they have to compensate you if you had paid for the service, or so long they did not appear to be discriminating you on behalf of your race, religion, age, disability and gender.

If the passenger is not willing to corporate, then at that point, the passenger have broken a federal law.

Hi,

No sir---they cannot---the UNITED cannot once the person has boarded and claimed their seat---.

The person has not committed a crime---he does not need to follow any illegal orders---.

As he has not committed a crime---he cannot be ordered either---.

That compensation is pre-boarding---. Once boarded---the possession of the seat is 9/10 in the favor of the ticket holder---. The airline can only request---.
 
Hi,

No sir---they cannot---the UNITED cannot once the person has boarded and claimed their seat---.

The person has not committed a crime---he does not need to follow any illegal orders---.

As he has not committed a crime---he cannot be ordered either---.

That compensation is pre-boarding---. Once boarded---the possession of the seat is 9/10 in the favor of the ticket holder---. The airline can only request---.

This particular case, there are 2 separate problem.

1.) Can the pilot ask you to leave their aircraft?
2.) Can Authority remove you from an aircraft?

For Question number 1.

Well, United can reject you from their premises given they did not discriminate you on behalf of age, race, gender and religion.

A plane is like a restaurant or a club, which have a fire safety related serving capacity, and when it is at capacity, in case of an airline, they can either refuse people service or reject people already in their premises, again, given if the rejection is not based on race, gender, age or religion. There are no law to criminalize action regarding acceptance of service and refusal of service, so in term of law, the pilot, acting as an agent of the airline, can ask to anyone to remove themselves from their plane, much like a night club can ask you to leave their premises when they are over capacity.

Since there are no law to regulate this, the "RIGHT OF SERVICE" is lies within the power of the customer, however, the equally strong "THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE" is lies within the Owner of the premises.

Simply saying, given if they did compensate you, and did not break the existence law, the pilot can actually ask you to leave the aircraft, it may not be your fault, it can be the airline fault, however, since there Right of Service and Right to refuse Service is equal in dimension, it's basically up to the airline to take your business.

For question 2.

Regardless of the pilot action, a federal law called 49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants exists.

Since it is not an criminal act for a Pilot to ask you to leave, you refused to follow the pilot's, which is a part of the flight crew, instruction, that person, at that point is breaking the 49 U.S. Code § 46504. And UA can call authority to forcibly remove you from the plane.

As per this particular case,

It is not Dao fault when he was asked to leave, as you said, he did not say or do anything illegal, however, United did not break any law for asking him to leave, United, would have break the law if they are the one who physically remove Dao from the plane, but facts remain, this is not the case.

And when he was asked to leave and he did not comply, Dao, at that point, is breaking the law 49 U.S. Code § 46504. United then have the right to ask for authority to remove him.

This case will be very much different if the officer in question did not use heavy handed tactics to remove him.
 
Hi,

No sir---they cannot---the UNITED cannot once the person has boarded and claimed their seat---.

The person has not committed a crime---he does not need to follow any illegal orders---.

As he has not committed a crime---he cannot be ordered either---.

That compensation is pre-boarding---. Once boarded---the possession of the seat is 9/10 in the favor of the ticket holder---. The airline can only request---.

Any Airlines can deny services at any stage to any passenger (obviously before the plane is in the Air :) ). Read the following for more details :-

http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/4/11/15246632/united-airlines-drag-man-off-plane

What can indeed change this bullshit happening in US is a strict court ruling which can set a precedence on these type of situation. Here Airlines can get away because they claim that they didn't do any thing illegal. A court can pass a judgement protecting the pessengers rights under any already existing customer protection laws, Airlines lawyers will claim that the law does not apply in this situation. If a judge passes such decision and penalizes United, it will set a precedence which will then be used all over the US. That said in US legal proceeding are heavily in favour of large corporations so chances of that happening is slim. Also, people tend to choose airlines with cheap tickets and the market for Airlines is not competitive enough to boycott one whole airlines.
 
Any Airlines can deny services at any stage to any passenger (obviously before the plane is in the Air :) ). Read the following for more details :-

http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/4/11/15246632/united-airlines-drag-man-off-plane

What can indeed change this bullshit happening in US is a strict court ruling which can set a precedence on these type of situation. Here Airlines can get away because they claim that they didn't do any thing illegal. A court can pass a judgement protecting the pessengers rights under any already existing customer protection laws, Airlines lawyers will claim that the law does not apply in this situation. If a judge passes such decision and penalizes United, it will set a precedence which will then be used all over the US. That said in US legal proceeding are heavily in favour of large corporations so chances of that happening is slim. Also, people tend to choose airlines with cheap tickets and the market for Airlines is not competitive enough to boycott one whole airlines.

Hi,

Then why is this airlines is in the shitters as of now---if it had all the rights---.

The issue over here is---the passenger had not committed any crime---. He has been assigned a seat---he is sitting in his seat---he has possession of the seat---.

How can he be removed if the passenger does not want to vacate his seat---?

If force is used---then the issue of liabilities arises---.

If there is no crime---why would the police get involved---.
 
United seriously needs to teach its crews to act customer friendly.they paid a huge price before on #united_breaks_guitars story.they didnt learn it seems.

They could offer 2k $ for any of those overbooked passengers and everyone could be happy.
 

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