Unease, concern

[jamahir]

@jamahir this is lawn

lawn is a type of mostly printed cloth usually worn in summer by women

so far from what i said.

 

[Styx]

when you say "lawn", do you mean artificial grass??

i once watched a interview of ayyan ali and she gave "lawn" as prize to one viewer who had called the studio's number.

aapne kya socha, giving away her lawn (garden) as a prize ?

 

[jamahir]

aapne kya socha, giving away her lawn (garden) as a prize ?

i don't know about others, but zardari at least seems to have watered her lawn.

 

[Sliver]

You should not be concerned if he wants to learn arabic - its a beautiful language with a lot of history

You should also not be concerned if he wants to do that to understand the koran better - again - its his choice.

He had the tattoos by his choice - he can remove them by his choice.

If he wants to stop having alcohol for religious purposes - thats again his choice.

You should only be concerned if you have a valid reason to think that he is a threat to the any other human being or the society. Merely learning another language, trying to be according to the koran while being part of the good side of the society (i.e: not harming anyone).

If you are scared of him learning another language or you think all moulanas are brain washers - then thats part of the prejudice you need to work on yourself.

Personally, I am against all religions and anything non-scientific. But it is not my place to ell someone how they should think for themselves about life. It is for them to discover on their own. However, I will act if there is threat to myself or anyone else from this particular person.

 

[Kaniska]

I will provide an example of my school friend from school at Odisha. He is a Muslim boy who is leader in Organizing Ganesh Puja, Sarswati Puja at my locality. He knows end to end of all the Hindu cultural thing what we people usually know..and sometimes he knows more than us too. He was fasting on all the Pujas and he sits on homas Ganesh and Saraswati Pujas for many years...And also he goes along with to temples..does puja along with us...But on top of it, he is spiritually does everything what Islam teaches him to do in true sense..Like doing fasting in Ramdan...and many things even i do not know..

So my point is that every person who tends to be a true Muslim is nothing to be concerned...Of course there is a possibility that if can either turn to be another normal person after his preaching or he can be in ISIS camp..It is his personal choice..

 

[Styx]

i don't know about others, but zardari at least seems to have watered her lawn.

LOL, really ?

tbh I'm not to up to date on that case, keep seeing the headline pop up on PDF but haven't bothered checking it out.

 

[Kaniska]

it is 99 percent of the time the "tableeghi jamaat" coming door-to-door and "inviting" people to the mosque that begins corrupting peoples' minds... but their sales talk starts with "we just wanted to invite a muslim brother to the mosque" and then they begin saying something like "allah ne hawa banaaya, allah ne paani banaaya"... they also try to find the profession of the person so that similar professionals from the jamaat will help speed the "conversion".

Just curious, what is "tableeghi jamaat"? Is it a sect or section in Islam like Shia and Ahmadi people???

you can tell him this - that he should at least style the beard because no way will a unkempt beard attract non-muslims to him, especially if he combines that with moustache shaving.

let him have his beard but he should style it.

I should say honestly...This beard without mustache..looks so horrible...Is it a part of religious thing too??? I mean why can they keep something which looks at least not bad...Like beard without moustache in men and Burkha in Black color in head to toe..looks so difficult to even the person who does it...Agian, i am not against the Burkha...But why to punish with black colur in Indian climate...it will be so hot man...Why not in good white or other colours??? Similarly, the style of beard..also..

 

[Fireurimagination]

Shoot an email to Ajit Doval

 

[Echo_419]

No he might still go to Iraq someday when its safe.

For them its holier than Mecca apparently.

Tell him to go there when its safe

 

[Imran Khan]

leave him alone this sickness have no medicine

 

[jamahir]

LOL, really ?

tbh I'm not to up to date on that case, keep seeing the headline pop up on PDF but haven't bothered checking it out.

she's seems to be with child, there was a thread on this... maybe it was just rumor to get her out.

Just curious, what is "tableeghi jamaat"? Is it a sect or section in Islam like Shia and Ahmadi people??

"tableeghi jamaat" is the missionary arm of the deoband mullah school ( deoband is a town in uttar pradesh )... the deobandis are really a cult though they call themselves sunni.

there are three mullah streams in the world - wahabi ( from current country of saudia ), ayatollai ( from iran ) and deobandi ( from india )... the tableeghis spread this deobandi ideology and are really responsible for not only rapid change among india's muslims since the 90's ( increase in burqa, beard ) but the tableeghis also are responsible for most "muslim" terrorist groups... indeed, the "tableeghi jamaat" serves as a reservoir of reactionaries from which violence-minded members go join existent terrorist groups or start their own groups.

therefore most "muslim" terror groups in the world are founded on this indian ideology.

i call the tableeghis and deobandis as munafiq ( fake-muslim )... the deoband mullah school founded in 1800's funded by british money... my thinking is that the britishers wanted to put indian muslims solely into a reactionary life of prayer and oppression and never having the energies to follow or put up a great leader/figure-head like tipu sultan... in the modern times, the western governments created or supported deobandi-derived groups all over the world so that socialist/socialistic muslim countries could be sabotaged.

I should say honestly...This beard without mustache..looks so horrible...Is it a part of religious thing too??? I mean why can they keep something which looks at least not bad

i don't really know the origin of beard-without-moustache but it could have been in mughal times in india... somehow that has become the cool thing for the reactionaries.

Agian, i am not against the Burkha...But why to punish with black colur in Indian climate...it will be so hot man...Why not in good white or other colours???

the burqa's origin ( black mostly, white in north africa, blue in afghanistan ) is in contention... i say that it was somewhere in the iran lands and some others say that it was a arabian-peninsula invention... nevertheless, as with the beard-without-moustache wearers, the burqa has become a symbol for the reactionary female to project her so-called muslim identity.

in every socialist muslim countries, the revolutionaries banned or suppressed the burqa and it was always the burqa promoters who joined the nato efforts to destabilize that particular country.

the burqa should be banned globally as it has nothing to do with islam... it is a pre-islam garment.

 

[Styx]

ok, another little snippet I can relate here..

I know this guy from a certain south Indian state, media professional, well traveled and obviously proper educated, also into some underground music scene and is about the furthest thing from a fundamentalist as one can get..

some months ago he set off for this east European country to meet his friends (people he'd befriended in India) and go to a concert thingy.. but the customs guys there were fucking racist, kept him waiting forever and eventually denied him entry (all while his local friends were waiting in the lot to pick him up).. no reason given, but he figured it's to do with his name (religion), and the fact that he had saudi and syrian stamps on his passport from recent visits (legit/explainable)
.. despondent, but wtf, waiting for his humiliating flight back, he asked the customs guys where he could get a beer.. and from then on they were apparently all surprised and apologetic "oh, we didn't know you like to party" etc .. but it was too late, they'd red X stamped his passport already.. go figure..

the world's a paranoid place, and to an extent it's kind of understandable even given what's happening in the middle east..

met him last during the fag end of the last ramzaan month when he told me all this because I was surprised he was fasting and abstaining from drinks..

@doppelganger @jamahir

 

[Kaniska]

she's seems to be with child, there was a thread on this... maybe it was just rumor to get her out.



"tableeghi jamaat" is the missionary arm of the deoband mullah school ( deoband is a town in uttar pradesh )... the deobandis are really a cult though they call themselves sunni.

there are three mullah streams in the world - wahabi ( from current country of saudia ), ayatollai ( from iran ) and deobandi ( from india )... the tableeghis spread this deobandi ideology and are really responsible for not only rapid change among india's muslims since the 90's ( increase in burqa, beard ) but the tableeghis also are responsible for most "muslim" terrorist groups... indeed, the "tableeghi jamaat" serves as a reservoir of reactionaries from which violence-minded members go join existent terrorist groups or start their own groups.

therefore most "muslim" terror groups in the world are founded on this indian ideology.

i call the tableeghis and deobandis as munafiq ( fake-muslim )... the deoband mullah school founded in 1800's funded by british money... my thinking is that the britishers wanted to put indian muslims solely into a reactionary life of prayer and oppression and never having the energies to follow or put up a great leader/figure-head like tipu sultan... in the modern times, the western governments created or supported deobandi-derived groups all over the world so that socialist/socialistic muslim countries could be sabotaged.



i don't really know the origin of beard-without-moustache but it could have been in mughal times in india... somehow that has become the cool thing for the reactionaries.



the burqa's origin ( black mostly, white in north africa, blue in afghanistan ) is in contention... i say that it was somewhere in the iran lands and some others say that it was a arabian-peninsula invention... nevertheless, as with the beard-without-moustache wearers, the burqa has become a symbol for the reactionary female to project her so-called muslim identity.

in every socialist muslim countries, the revolutionaries banned or suppressed the burqa and it was always the burqa promoters who joined the nato efforts to destabilize that particular country.

the burqa should be banned globally.

Dear friend..i should be thankful and appreciate you for responding to me for my queries which i sometimes fear to ask because people feel offended..But again, these are the common question was in my mind for long time which i was reluctant to ask any one...Thanks for so nicely explaining it to me...Although going forward, i may disagree with you post, but i will keep my self interested to learn Islam again through the people like you to understand Indians who are Muslims...Thanks again...

 

[jamahir]

the world's a paranoid place, and to an extent it's kind of understandable even given what's happening in the middle east..

that east europeans must want to keep papa amrika and brother "old europe" pleased and content.

 

[Styx]

that east europeans must want to keep papa amrika and brother "old europe" pleased and content.

yeah, it was a NATO country where this happened but not like Russia doesn't have a problem with it.. Dokka Umarov, Bratishvili (isis), the dagestan "mujahideen" etc..

look, I felt real bad for the guy and honestly didn't know where to look when he related this to me but there is a very real underlying reason why he had to endure this horror

he was pretty matter of fact about it too, not too bummed or angry or anything, hell, we even had a bit of a laugh about it..

not sure what to make of it, it's all very sad