Ultra Far Right Nationalism on the rise in Europe and Russia

[p(-)0ENiX]

Slavery in the West ended centuries before slavery was "officially" abolished Islamic countries.

Slavery in the US ended in 1865 (slavery in Saudi Arabia ended in 1970's), meanwhile Arabs of Arabia continued to buy and sell African slaves and to this day continue to do so, but again that is not highlighted by the media, which you already know is run by whom.

Also, the African slave trade had a lot of Jewish involvement, in fact they were the ones running the trade, Europeans were just the buyers.

Yeah, I have read that too. The reason Arab slavery isn't talked about much is because the media here isn't really run by Jews. Although, ideas & values originating from the Western world are discussed here extensively. Besides, Arabs are nationalistic people; the G.C.C leaders for instance wouldn't create a society that clashes with their traditions. Slavery was pretty much normal at that time, I doubt anyone back then considered it evil, & modern white people shouldn't be ashamed of it either. While it's true that modern society thinks it's evil, people can not be held accountable for the work of their forefathers. I can see how minorities would use this to their advantage, & it seems the majority will have to knock some sense in to the minority.

What he stated sound very bitter, but its the truth, and truth is always bitter than the lie.

I agree, I was merely trying to make the point that while Muslims (especially Pakistanis) blame the West for hatred, similar points of view existed in the East too.

1). They don't own the media.

2). They don't own their own governments.

3). Their only method of spreading awareness is through social networking and websites.

Yeah, most of the media outlets are owned & operated by Jews, or should I say Zionist Jews? However, they need to spread awareness through other methods along with social networking. Protests are a good method, & I am sure some popular online bloggers & news papers will discuss their points of view.

I agree, however there are locals who are just too blind to reality, its a very complex matter in fact, because there are Jews who don't necessarily subscribe to the goals of which these few people have set to achieve.

Generally, white nationalists are portrayed as being violent supremacists. They are going to have to work to change this perception, & clearly define the goals of their movement. If they fail to do that, even locals would be cautious of getting involved in such movements. For them to succeed, they have to weaken the power Zionists have gained in their countries. The Jews are Semites, they have no relation to them via culture, language, or most importantly; bloodline.

True, i completely agree. Europe without all of these immigrants was advanced, people think these immigrants will bring something new when in fact most of the skills (in rare cases) these immigrants have are European in origin. Almost every invention is European in origin. What would society be without electricity, airplanes, telephones, computers, automobiles, trains, lightbulbs, etc.

Immigrants from poor countries have nothing to bring besides their food, language, & culture. Europe had advanced scientific & poetic languages along with multiple unique cultures of its own. The only era in which scientific progress declined in Europe was the Medieval age. European accomplishments are without doubt amazing, & that makes them worthy of respect. The places they settled on were developed by them from scratch, whereas people in the East still struggle to develop their own land.

Pakistanis think that every European accomplishment is based on advancements made by Muslims who oddly enough had absolutely no relation to Pakistanis whatsoever. Some Arabs feel the same way though. However, they neglect the fact that without studying the literature of the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, & Aryans; the Arab Islamic golden age would never have been possible.

Actually, it should if you ask me.

The biggest problem G.C.C countries have with immigrants is that they occupy the jobs that would otherwise have been performed by the locals. Government jobs in Saudi Arabia are generally reserved for the locals alone, & the law enforcement consists entirely of locals obviously. The advantage of bringing Arab immigrants here is that they would find it easier to integrate in to the society. Apart from that, there are hardly any racial tensions here, sectarian issues are an entirely different subject. The facilities offered to immigrants are similar regardless of origins, but I have heard that in some organizations; a person's salary varies according to nationality.

I agree with you that they need to reduce the number of immigrants. That was impossible to do in the past, & it seems that it's still kind off difficult to do today. G.C.C countries needed an educated work force & they got that from abroad. Countries like the UAE needed immigrants because of the rising demand for a greater workforce the local population was unable to meet. UAE can not afford to give up on their economic practices just yet, it's similar to how Malaysia desires to become an educational hub, & in order to accomplish that feat; they will require highly qualified people from abroad along with their own. The difference is that the Western world's management of immigrants seems terrible, whereas over here; they seem to be better controlled.

Besides that, Middle Eastern countries rarely provide non-Arabs with their nationality, & it isn't exactly easy or common for Arab immigrants to get the nationality either. There are some social prejudices naturalized Arabs have to deal with here, to the locals; they are always going to be foreigners. That of course is perfectly natural & understandable. The law enforcement here is extremely strict & efficient, & very few ethnicities turn out to be a source of trouble. Recently, Saudis have had trouble with African & Bangladeshi immigrants. Those people are immediately deported, or in the case of African refugees; they have the sh!t beaten out of them by the police. The locals here aren't troublemakers either. In fact, the society is such that everyone generally minds their own business.

In fact, they have set up a special harassment squad meant to harass any gentile seen walking with, even staring at a israel woman. And if you fight back you get locked up, and forget about any human rights violations or UN laws, those go straight in the trash bin when it comes to israel.

I never knew that. According to Western standards, that's a great example of racism.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

I never understood why they would feel guilty about pretty much anything? Slavery existed in Arabia for centuries, even after the arrival of Islam. Did you know that the slave traders that bought Prophet Joseph were Ishmaelite Arabs? Many people sugar coat slavery in the Arab world by stating that Islam gives slaves rights & other blah, blah, blah. The fact is that there is a difference between preaching something & practicing it. The conditions of some slaves did improve vastly, but many slaves were abused even in the Arab Islamic states, denying it is pointless.

Do you want to know what the "shuper, awshome, & amazingly kool" Arab physician that described the pulmonary circulation of blood called Ibn al-Nafis thought of blacks?

According to Wikipedia:



The source for that quote is a book mentioned in the quote itself. Anyway, after all that; no one here feels guilty at all about slavery. People need to be proud of whatever their ancestors did even if they disagree with them, that might help this diminish this feeling of guilt. The sames goes for colonialism, what exactly is wrong with getting resources out of other people's land? If the locals have a problem with it; they should fight, if not; accept their defeat & humiliation. It's their fault they couldn't defend themselves anyway. Ownership of land was different back then in comparison to the modern concept of the nation state. The conqueror owns the land, the conquered lose it. Why don't white people protest against false accusations of hate crimes? I am sure some media outlets would provide them coverage, it's better than simply staying silent.



Here is an unwritten rule; you should never trust anyone you ever had trouble with in the past. The fact that some Jewish families have so much influence in a land that isn't their own should be alarming to the locals. The Jews view themselves as foreigners in Europe; including those that are mixed with the locals. They obviously do not care for the people on whose land they live, is it any wonder that they would promote immorality & values that reject nationalism? Multiculturalism can only flourish if nationalistic feelings are rejected.

By the way, what threat does Europe face without multiculturalism? As I recall from my history classes; many civilizations flourished in Europe without the help of foreigners. Does anyone want me to compare ancient Rome with the best of what Asia & Africa had to offer? Romulus might feel insulted if I compared Roma to Mohenjo-daro.



I agree, there are people in G.C.C countries that think that if Arabia must accept immigrants, it should be none other than Arab immigrants. You might even come across people that are against all forms of immigration, but as usual; there are those that don't care about immigration at all.





Wow, do they really go to such lengths to protect God's chosen women from f!lthy, barbaric, evil Gentiles God rejected? Israel is so close to Arabia geographically, but I never got to try God's chosen women right out of the holy land. We do have Palestinian women here though, but they weren't chosen by anyone; not even Satan.

You are making the issue of immigration in the west seems like it is multiculturalism vs human rights, while in reality Europe is in desperate need for working immigrants to help their sluggish economies. Its not that they feel guilty about colonialism at all. Europe demographically is old and getting older every year.
Also, Europe has a horrific racist history that can in no way be compared to any middle easter country, from Nazism to Eugenics to Arian nationalism. As for slavery, yes it did exist in Arabia for centuries but it exists today as well, from the factories of China to the Bangladesh sweat shops to the privately owned prison system in the US. Slavery has and for ever will exist.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

Some Arabs feel the same way though. However, they neglect the fact that without studying the literature of the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, & Aryans; the Arab Islamic golden age would never have been possible.

True. But its also true that without the Education and translations Europeans got from Andalus, the renaissance would have never happened in Europe. That's a historical fact.

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

You are making the issue of immigration in the west seems like it is multiculturalism vs human rights, while in reality Europe is in desperate need for working immigrants to help their sluggish economies. Its not that they feel guilty about colonialism at all. Europe demographically is old and getting older every year.

Nope, it isn't about multiculturalism verses human rights. It's more about managing & controlling immigration. They need to improve their birth rate, there is no doubt about that.

Also, Europe has a horrific racist history that can in no way be compared to any middle easter country, from Nazism to Eugenics to Arian nationalism. As for slavery, yes it did exist in Arabia for centuries but it exists today as well, from the factories of China to the Bangladesh sweet shops to the privately owned prison system in the US. Slavery has and for ever will exist.

No one here has mocked Arabs for the ancient slave trade that no longer exists in the Middle East. The point being made is that the modern day descendants of people shouldn't be blamed for what their ancestors did in the past. Nationalism is not equal to racism, in fact; it is essential for the survival of pretty much any race. That is one reason I actually like Arab Nationalism; it combines elements of both religion & ethnicity & uses it as a binding factor for the population.

The holocaust was horrific, & it wasn't only the Jews that suffered during the holocaust. As for the rest of Europe's history; I don't see how it can be described as being "horrific" unless you are talking about some regions of Eastern Europe. One of the leaders of Romania during the medieval age called "Vlad the Impaler" is a good example of an idiot. The legend of Dracula originates from him too. His younger brother converted to Islam, & fought & defeated him alongside Ottoman armies.

True. But its also true that without the Education and translations Europeans got from Andalus, the renaissance would have never happened in Europe. That's a historical fact.

Andalusia had turned in to an educational center back then, there is no doubt about that. Have you forgotten about the library in Baghdad? It was destroyed by the Mongols, but I have read that thousands of books were saved & taken to some other place. We already know that the Islamic civilization influenced, inspired, & led to the Italian Renaissance. As far as I know, Leonardo Da Vinci used to study books from both Arabic & Greek sources. In any case, knowledge flows from region to region. For instance; gunpowder was invented in China, & later on used by Arabs, Ottomans, the Mughals, & finally Europe.

 

[james5]

wonderful story about Europe.thanks for it.

 

[Desert Fox]

Also, Europe has a horrific racist history that can in no way be compared to any middle easter country, from Nazism to Eugenics to Arian nationalism.

You are speaking out of sheer ignorance. Though i'm not surprised at all since you are an Arab. Your worldview is most likely only limited to the ME, outside of that you know zilch.

Lets see, who started the African slave trade? Arabs and Jews, both of these people are semites and both started the African slave trade, NOT the Europeans.

The Origins of the African Slave Trade

http://wysinger.homestead.com/mapofafricadiaspora3.html

This photo in particular is of interest in that the Arab ship carrying the African slaves was intercepted by the British Navy, these salves were soon set free by the British.



European African slave trade (Trans-Atlantic slave trade) only began around the late 1600's, continued through 1700's, and finally ended in 1800's. While Arabs (and Jews) were involved in the purchase, enslavement, and selling of black Africans for more than a Millennium.


"Racist" Europeans ended slavery in the 1800's, while "not" so racist Arabs and Jews continued slavery and still do so even as we speak, in the form of human trafficking, an example of which is kidnapping or purchasing Pakistani and Bangladeshi boys from poor families, as young as 4 to 5 years old, deliberately starving them and using them as camel jockeys.

An Israeli citizen was sentenced yesterday to 18 years in prison by the Moscow military court, for organizing a vast network of sex trafficking. According to the court, from 1999 to 2007, when most of the network's agents were arrested, Avi Yanai and his accomplices sold hundreds of women for prostitution to Israel, Italy, Spain, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and other countries. The minimal official estimate stands at 129 women, but some of the states still investigating the network put the number at several hundred. The women were lured from Moldova, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and Uzbekistan.

Russia sentences Israeli to 18 years for sex trafficking
This has become the state of Europe and Russia after decades of marxist Zionist rule.


Coming to Nazis, if you knew even a little about them, which again you don't since you are an Arab and only choose to believe in what you want to believe, you would have known that in Nazi Germany there were Mosques and under Hitler's regime Muslims were never targeted, in fact Hitler had a lot of respect for Islam.

Also, during the Berlin 1936 Olympics, Black African American Athlete Jesse Owens beat his German counterpart Luz Long, despite that, Hitler, unlike common perception that he left the stadium in anger, in fact congratulated the Black African American athlete just as he did to the other athletes that achieved gold medals. He didn't discriminate.

Forget Hitler - it was America that snubbed black Olympian Jesse Owens

Hitler shook hands with black 1936 Olympic hero Jesse Owens

It has long been regarded as the greatest sporting snub in history - when Adolf Hitler stormed out of the Olympic Stadium in Berlin because Germany had been humiliated by a black man.
Hitler, who had shaken hands the previous day with all the German Olympic winners, left the stadium furious that his Ayran supermen had been beaten by their supposed racial inferior.

Or so the story goes.

But now a veteran sports reporter in Germany has come forward to claim that, though Hitler did indeed leave the stadium after the race, it was not before shaking Owens' hand.

Siegfried Mischner, 83, claims that Owens carried around a photograph in his wallet of the Fuehrer doing just that.

Owens, who felt the newspapers of the day reported 'unfairly' on Hitler's attitude towards him, tried to get Mischner and his journalist colleagues to change the accepted version of history in the 1960s.

Mischner claimed Owens showed him the photograph and told him: 'That was one of my most beautiful moments.'

'The predominating opinion in post-war Germany was that Hitler had ignored Owens.

'We therefore decided not to report on the photo. The consensus was that Hitler had to continue to be painted in a bad light in relation to Owens.'

Hitler shaking the hands of a Black Athlete and congratulating him on his achievements is equivalent to Saudi King congratulating a Shia Iranian after the latter beats a Saudi athlete, which i doubt Saudis would ever do anyways.


Now, coming to Aryan Nationalism, what's wrong with it? There's Arab nationalism, perhaps you should advocate against that first before pointing fingers at others.

As for slavery, yes it did exist in Arabia for centuries but it exists today as well, from the factories of China to the Bangladesh sweat shops to the privately owned prison system in the US. Slavery has and for ever will exist.

Slavery in the US ended in 1865, Slavery in Britain ended in 1807, and in other European countries slavery ended within the 19th century. However in Saudi Arabia alone (disregarding the other Arab countries), slavery "officially" ended in 1970's, not sure about the other Arab countries.

China and bangladesh are also non-European countries, and if there is some sort of slavery in European/Western countries, it always turns out to have heavy semetic involvement.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

You are speaking out of sheer ignorance. Though i'm not surprised at all since you are an Arab. Your worldview is most likely only limited to the ME, outside of that you know zilch.

Lets see, who started the African slave trade? Arabs and Jews, both of these people are semites and both started the African slave trade, NOT the Europeans.

The Origins of the African Slave Trade

Africans Aboard a Slave Ship

This photo in particular is of interest in that the Arab ship carrying the African slaves was intercepted by the British Navy, these salves were soon set free by the British.



European African slave trade (Trans-Atlantic slave trade) only began around the late 1600's, continued through 1700's, and finally ended in 1800's. While Arabs (and Jews) were involved in the purchase, enslavement, and selling of black Africans for more than a Millennium.


"Racist" Europeans ended slavery in the 1800's, while "not" so racist Arabs and Jews continued slavery and still do so even as we speak, in the form of human trafficking, an example of which is kidnapping or purchasing Pakistani and Bangladeshi boys from poor families, as young as 4 to 5 years old, deliberately starving them and using them as camel jockeys.


Russia sentences Israeli to 18 years for sex trafficking
This has become the state of Europe and Russia after decades of marxist Zionist rule.


Coming to Nazis, if you knew even a little about them, which again you don't since you are an Arab and only choose to believe in what you want to believe, you would have known that in Nazi Germany there were Mosques and under Hitler's regime Muslims were never targeted, in fact Hitler had a lot of respect for Islam.

Also, during the Berlin 1936 Olympics, Black African American Athlete Jesse Owens beat his German counterpart Luz Long, despite that, Hitler, unlike common perception that he left the stadium in anger, in fact congratulated the Black African American athlete just as he did to the other athletes that achieved gold medals. He didn't discriminate.

Forget Hitler - it was America that snubbed black Olympian Jesse Owens

Hitler shook hands with black 1936 Olympic hero Jesse Owens




Hitler shaking the hands of a Black Athlete and congratulating him on his achievements is equivalent to Saudi King congratulating a Shia Iranian after the latter beats a Saudi athlete, which i doubt Saudis would ever do anyways.


Now, coming to Aryan Nationalism, what's wrong with it? There's Arab nationalism, perhaps you should advocate against that first before pointing fingers at others.





Slavery in the US ended in 1865, Slavery in Britain ended in 1807, and in other European countries slavery ended within the 19th century. However in Saudi Arabia alone (disregarding the other Arab countries), slavery "officially" ended in 1970's, not sure about the other Arab countries.

China and bangladesh are also non-European countries, and if there is some sort of slavery in European/Western countries, it always turns out to have heavy semetic involvement.

lol a Pakistani new-Nazi!!
First of all why do you restrict slavery to African slavery?. Europeans used slavery for thousands of years. Your source doesn't say that Arab and Jews were the origin of slavery. Read your own sources.

Second, no one cares how many Mosques existed in Nazi Germany. And no cares about what Hitler says about Islam. Its pathetic that you use this psychopath as a worthy name to support Islam. I mentioned Nazism because it caused immense human suffering incomparable to anything in the ME. Genocide is alien to our culture. Unlike your Arian idols who massacred 10s of millions of American natives and the holocaust that killed 17 million Jews and Gypsies. Or Americans who nuked two cities and used chemical weapons in Vietnam. Its absolutely undeniable that "whites" caused more wars and deaths than any human race. In fact its just enough to list ww1 &2.

Finally, to say slavery ended in the 19th century in America is total BS. Slavery exists today in American prisons. An inmate who has to live the rest of his life in a cage owned by a private cooperation that force their inmates to work for them is slavery, regardless of the crime committed. It should be pointed out that slavery in general is not banned in Islam. Therefore, your rant about Arab slavery practices is worthless from an Islamic perspective. In the case of prisoners of war, it is allowed to enslave enemy soldiers, but its not allowed to torture them for years like you Arian masters do in Guantanamo.
http://www.alternet.org/story/155199/private_prison_corporations_are_modern_day_slave_traders

 

[Desert Fox]

lol a Pakistani new-Nazi!!

They say that the first indication of a person with a low IQ is their resort to personal attacks and jabs at their opponent during a debate, a strong indication that they can't come up with a strong counter-argument.

First of all why do you restrict slavery to African slavery?. Europeans used slavery for thousands of years.

So did the Arabs, but the difference lies in the fact that Europeans outlawed slavery centuries before the Arabs.

Now you asked "why do you restrict slavery to African slavery?", well, you did bring up "racism" in your previous post didn't you? BTW, when will Saudi Arabia have a black King?

Your source doesn't say that Arab and Jews were the origin of slavery. Read your own sources.

I read them pretty well, you didn't.

The East African Slave Trade

In East Africa a slave trade was well established before the Europeans arrived on the scene. It was driven by the sultanates of the Middle East. African slaves ended up as sailors in Persia, pearl divers in the Gulf, soldiers in the Omani army and workers on the salt pans of Mesopotamia (modern Iraq). Many people were domestic slaves, working in rich households. Women were taken as sex slaves.

Arab traders began to settle among the Africans of the coast, resulting in the emergence of a people and culture known as Swahili. In the second half of the 18th century, the slave trade expanded and became more organised. There was also a huge demand for ivory, and slaves were used as porters to carry it.

The Story of Africa| BBC World Service

What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim (Arab) traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims (Arabs) were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves.

The more we study it, the less blame we have to put on the USA for the slave trade with black Africa: it was pioneered by the Arabs, its economic mechanism was invented by the Italians and the Portuguese, it was mostly run by western Europeans (between 1600's-1800's), and it was conducted with the full cooperation of many African kings.

The Origins of the Slave Trade

Although slavery did exist in Europe pre-colonial times, however it was negligible and only limited to the mediterranean region.

Second, no one cares how many Mosques existed in Nazi Germany. And no cares about what Hitler says about Islam.

I care, and so do many other people interested in facts and not war propaganda.

Its pathetic that you use this psychopath as a worthy name to support Islam.

He's a "psychopath"? Says who? You? And who are you? Just another blind follower of the mass media which is owned by a few Zionists, who for some reason don't bother showing the atrocities committed by israel and men like Arial Sharon against innocent civilians.

I can't really expect much from an Arab though.

I mentioned Nazism because it caused immense human suffering incomparable to anything in the ME.

BS. You have no proof of "immense human suffering" cause by Nazism except for allied propaganda and the Zionist holocaust industry.The Nazis come nowhere close to the subhuman barbarity and savagery you sub-saharan Arabs seem to be pro's at.

Remember, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was sent to you savages because you were the most backwards and ignorant people who indulged in burying your daughters as well as other unspeakable crimes. Even now, from Arab behavior, it seems savagery hasn't left you people.

Besides, you should be thanking Nazism for their achievements and breakthroughs in science and technology, at least they contributed in one form or another, unlike you savage bedouins.

Genocide is alien to our culture.

Semites caused the deaths of millions of people through systematic murder and still continue to do so.

Unlike your Arian idols who massacred 10s of millions of American natives

Although, i agree that the native Americans were unjustly expelled from their native land, and to some extent even killed at the hands of European settlers, however even before mass deportations, the natives themselves would enslave one another and sell their own to the White settlers as well as cooperate with the Europeans against one another. Also, the natives were pure savages who would cannibalize subjugated tribes, they worshiped demons, and even killed white settlers and used their hair as wigs.

More natives died from disease as a result of coming into contact with White settlers through trade and commerce and not conflict.

and the holocaust that killed 17 million Jews and Gypsies.

Pure BS, from where did you pull this number out of? I hope it wasn't from where you excrete fecal matter.

Besides the supposed "6 million" jews "murdered" by the Nazis, 200,000 Gypsies were also "murdered". 6,000,000+200,000=6,200,000 Jews and Gypsies "murdered".

So again genius, where did you pull the 17 million number from?

You Arabs share a lot in common with israelis, one trait you share is that you lie and fabricate a lot of BS. Which is why i believe you deserve each other, after all Arabs played a big part in israel's creation when they assisted the british in backstabbing Sunni Ottoman Turkey in 1916.

Or Americans who nuked two cities and used chemical weapons in Vietnam. Its absolutely undeniable that "whites" caused more wars and deaths than any human race. In fact its just enough to list ww1 &2.

Nukes developed by jewish scientists funded by wealthy jews who ran mutli-billion dollar corporations. How did you forget that part?

Finally, to say slavery ended in the 19th century in America is total BS. Slavery existed TODAY in the American prisons. An inmate who has to live the rest of his life in a cage owned by a private cooperation that force their inmates to work for them is 21st century slavery, regardless of the crime.

You forgot to mention that the corporation is most likely owned by a semite who's name ends with Berg, Sachs, Getz, Katz, Glantz, Kahn, Murdoch etc... Just as all war profiteering banks and corporations in the US are owned by semites.

Which is why i sad in my previous post in reply to you, that even if there is some slavery existent in the West, it most likely has heavy semetic involvement.

It should be pointed out that slavery in general is not banned in Islam. Therefore, your rant about Arab slavery practices is worthless from an Islamic perspective.

So if somebody enslaves you and your family it is okay, from an Islamic perspective? Perhaps you'll make a good slave who'll be happy to serve his master since you believe slavery is justified.

In case of prisoners of wars, it is allowed to enslave enemy soldiers, but its not allowed to torture them for years like you Arian masters do in Guantanamo.

So you mean to tell me that starving Pakistani and bangladeshi boys to make them light weight camel jockeys is not torture or enslavement? Making south asians laborers work in highly hazardous environments in long shifts and them give them deplorable housing areas to live in is not enslavement and torture?

children as young as 10 are working as camel jockeys in the United Arab Emirates despite a law banning underage riders, new photos reveal.

Observers from the organisation saw one child fall from a camel and narrowly escape being trampled at the Sweihan race track. Their pictures show children with badly fitting hats falling over their eyes at an event attended by dignitaries and uniformed police officers.

Before the ban, there were up to 3,000 child jockeys in the UAE, many of them trafficked from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sudan and Mauritania, but only about 1,000 were returned home under a repatriation scheme.

UAE defies ban on child camel jockeys - Middle East - World - The Independent

Deplorable slave like conditions of South Asian immigrants in the GCC

During those same visits to South Asia, I also had the opportunity to visit Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. – the Gulf Cooperation Council states. There I found the condition of South Asian immigrants to be so intolerable that people in the outside world need to know about it and push their governments to exert pressure for reasonable change in that inhumane situation.

The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) is a political and economic union of the Arab states bordering the Persian Gulf and located on the Arabian Peninsula, namely Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates (UAE). All these six states are extremely wealthy, and they are the allies of the United States, Great Britain, and the Western World. Crude oil and natural gas are their main exports and the source of their great wealth.

The elite in these countries are so wealthy that they send their luxury cars to London for oil change (6,500 miles round trip).

Asian immigrants to the Arab states of the Gulf Cooperation Council, however, cannot escape inferior status and oppression in working conditions, health care, residency, and legal recourse for harm done to them. They effectively become slaves to employers who consider them unworthy of any degree of decent treatment as human beings – and, thus, totally disposable. It’s actually a racial discrimination of the worst kind.

They can well afford to pay these housemaids a living wage and provide decent working conditions, but in reality few do. Instead they force maids to work inhumanely exhausting hours; abuse them both verbally and physically to the point of torture; willfully delay, cut, or totally withhold their wages; and beat, rape, or even kill them.

The GCC Member States are now home to some of the most beautiful and architecturally advanced buildings in the world, including Dubai’s Burj Khalifa, now the tallest man-made structure on Earth. This magnificent multi-use showpiece was designed by an American architectural firm, but – like nearly everything else newly built in the region – was constructed mostly by South Asian immigrant workers.

Their working conditions are so hazardous that injuries and deaths are common, but the local news media barely notice. They have to live in ******, overcrowded labor camps and too often do not even receive the inexcusably low pay they are allotted. Certainly, they’ll never get to enjoy as visitors what they have worked so hard and risked their lives to build.

Also, here's more sources:


Indonesian maid tortured in Saudi Arabia, another beaten to death

BBC-Indonesian president condemns Saudi torture of maid

Indonesians outraged by maids’ torture in Saudi Arabia

Indonesian Maid Was Horribly Tortured, Yudhoyono

Saudis consider maids as part of their furniture, a labor official once told me

Filipino maid in Saudi Arabia attacked with acid and stabbed to death

Saudi couple hammer 24 hot nails into their maid after she complained of heavy workload


Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in Saudi Arabia

]Saudis Import Slaves to America

Saudi Pinces' global prostitution rings and international child sex slave trade

 

[senheiser]

Come again? Dont give me this "White genocide" bullshit. They will tell you how "muslims" and black people immigrate and have kids, or in some cases marry white women. So these guys have a problem with people sleeping with each other

These morons should be dragged to the street and shot like dogs, just to prove a point. Nazism should never be allowed at whatever cost.

So in your opinion an ethnic group that has an opinion should be dragged into the street and be shot like dogs? that sounds much more like nazism and racism to me.

How Whites Took Over America - YouTube

check this out to understand how Europeans feel.

 

[Tshering22]

Islamic extremists are stepping up the creation of "no-go" areas in European cities that are off-limits to non-Muslims.

It is exactly actions like these that are forcing Europeans to go right wing. People from countries like Somalia and other such extreme places come and try to Arabize Europe.. naturally the Europeans will get pissed and start seeing everyone as the enemy.

I mean let's see; if Buddhist monks from Tibet came to Saudi and established no-Muslim zones, how would the Saudis feel?

Same hostility isn't it?

 

[Desert Fox]

'This isn't the Britain we fought for,' say the Veterans of WWII


By Tony Rennell
UPDATED: 17:55 EST, 21 November 2009

Sarah Robinson was just a teenager when World War II broke out.

She endured the Blitz, watching for fires during Luftwaffe air raids armed with a bucket of sand.

Often she would walk ten miles home from work in the blackout, with bombs falling around her.

As soon as she turned 18, she joined the Royal Navy to do her bit for the war effort.

Some WWII soldiers, and families of those lost in the war, have complained society today shows no sign of the effort they made to help

Hers was a small part in a huge, history-making enterprise, and her contribution epitomises her generation's sense of service and sacrifice.

Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

But was it worth it? Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No.

They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It's not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

Sarah harks back to the days when 'people kept the laws and were polite and courteous. We didn't have much money, but we were contented and happy.

'People whistled and sang. There was still the United Kingdom, our country, which we had fought for, our freedom, democracy. But where is it now?!'

Sarah Robinson, who joined the Royal Navy when she was 18, says the Britain she once knew no longer exists

The feelings of Sarah and others from this most selfless generation about the modern world have been recorded by a Tyneside writer, 33-year-old Nicholas Pringle.

Curious about his grandmother's generation and what they did in the war, he decided three years ago to send letters to local newspapers across the country asking for those who lived through the war to write to him with their experiences.

He rounded off his request with this question: 'Are you happy with how your country has turned out? What do you think your fallen comrades would have made of life in 21st-century Britain?'

What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.

There is the occasional bright spot - one veteran describes Britain as 'still the best country in the world' - but the overall tone is one of profound disillusionment.

'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'

'My patriotism has gone out of the window,' said another ex-serviceman.

In the Mail this week, Gordon Brown wrote about 'our debt of dignity to the war generation'.

But the truth that emerges from these letters is that the survivors of that war generation have nothing but contempt for his government.

They feel, in a word that leaps out time and time again, 'betrayed'.

New Labour, said one ex-commando who took part in the disastrous Dieppe raid in which 4,000 men were lost, was 'more of a shambles than some of the actions I was in during the war, and that's saying something!'

He added: 'Those comrades of mine who never made it back would be appalled if they could see the world as it is today.

'They would wonder what happened to the Brave New World they fought so damned hard for.'

Nor can David Cameron take any comfort from the elderly.

His 'hug a hoodie' advice was scorned by a generation of brave men and women now too scared, they say, to leave their homes at night.

Immigration tops the list of complaints.

'This Land of Hope and Glory is just a land of yobs and drunks'

'People come here, get everything they ask, for free, laughing at our expense,' was a typical observation.

'We old people struggle on pensions, not knowing how to make ends meet. If I had my time again, would we fight as before? Need you ask?'

Britain has become 'a land of yobs and drunks'

Many writers are bewildered and overwhelmed by a multicultural Britain that, they say bitterly, they were never consulted about nor feel comfortable with.

'Our country has been given away to foreigners while we, the generation who fought for freedom, are having to sell our homes for care and are being refused medical services because incomers come first.'

Her words may be offensive to many - and rightly so - but Sarah Robinson defiantly states: 'We are affronted by the appearance of Muslim and Sikh costumes on our streets.'

But then political correctness is another thing they take strong issue with, along with politicians generally - 'liars, incompetents and self-aggrandising charlatans' (with the revealing exception of Enoch Powell).

The loss of British sovereignty to the European Union caused almost as much distress. 'Nearly all veterans want Britain to leave the EU,' wrote one.

Frank, a merchant navy sailor, thought of those who gave their lives 'for King and country', only for Britain to become 'an offshore island of a Europe where France and Germany hold sway. Ironic, isn't it?'

'Our culture is draining away and we are forbidden to say anything'

As a group, they feel furious at not being able to speak their minds.

They see the lack of debate and the damning of dissenters as racists or Little Englanders as deeply upsetting affronts to freedom of speech.

'Our British culture is draining away at an ever increasing pace,' wrote an ex-Durham Light Infantryman, 'and we are almost forbidden to make any comment.'

A widow from Solihull blamed the Thatcher years 'when we started to lose all our industry and profit became the only aim in life'.

Her husband, a veteran of Dunkirk and Burma, died a disappointed man, believing that his seven years in the Army were wasted.

'It is 18 years since I lost him and as I look around parts of Birmingham today you would never know you were in England,' she wrote.

'He would have hated it. He also disliked the immoral way things are going. I don't think people are really happy now, for all the modern, easy-living conveniences.

'I disagree with same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration.

'I am very unhappy about the way this country is being transformed. I go nowhere after dark. I don't even answer my doorbell then.'

A Desert Rat who battled his way through El Alamein, Sicily, Italy and Greece was in despair.

'This is not the country I fought for. Political correctness, lack of discipline, compensation madness, uncontrolled immigration - the "do-gooders" have a lot to answer for.

'If you see youngsters doing something they shouldn't and you say anything, you just get a mouthful of foul language.'

Undoubtedly, some of the complaints are 'grumpy old man' gripes, as the veterans themselves recognise - from chewing gum on pavements and motorists using mobile phones to the march of computerisation ('why can't I just go to the station and buy a railway ticket?') and the dearth of pop music tunes you can hum.

But it is the fundamental change in society's values which they find hardest to come to terms with.

Bring back birching and hanging, the sanctions they grew up with, they say. Put more bobbies back on the beat.

'We were rigidly taught good manners and respect for older people,' said a wartime WAAF, 'but the nanny state has ruined all that. Television programmes are full of violence and obscene language.

This Land of Hope and Glory is in reality a land of yobs, drug addicts, drunkard youths and teenage mothers who think they are owed all for nothing.'

Aged 85, she has little wish to go on living.

For others, the strength of character that got them through the war is still helping them to survive the disappointments of peacetime.

A crofter's son from Scotland who served on the Arctic convoys taking supplies to Russia found the immediate post-war years hard.

Soldiers of the British Expeditionary Force leave the UK for France aboard a troopship to help the French Resistance during WWII

'In those days we had no welfare support from any source. It was as though we had served our country to the full and were then forgotten.

'However, we were very resilient and determined to make a go of it, and many of us, including myself, succeeded.

'How times have changed now, with the countless many clamouring to get welfare benefits for the asking.'

A medic who made it through Dunkirk and D-Day thought the fallen would be appalled by the lack of manners in modern life and the worship of celebrities, plus 'the patent dishonesty of politicians'.

Another common issue was their bemusement at the idea anyone could live in constant debt.

'We were brought up to believe that if you hadn't the money, you waited till you had!' one wrote.

However, this particular man was unusual among the 150 respondents in believing that there were many pluses to modern life.

He even had a good word to say about the European Union and felt it would appeal to the fallen 'if only for maintaining the peace in Europe over the past 60 years or so'.

He praised the breaking down of class barriers in Britain compared with the years when he was young and 'infinitely' increased prosperity.

'More clothes, cars, holidays abroad, home ownership. As a young teacher in the Fifties I had one suit (Army issue) and the luxury of a sports jacket and flannels at the weekend.

'Education has made vast progress. In my early days I taught classes of 50. Only five per cent of children went on to further education compared with over 40 per cent today.

'The emancipation of women has also been a huge plus, with the introduction of the Pill a large contributor. Before the war, women teachers were dismissed as soon as they married.'

A Land Girl who laboured on farms in Devon during the war agreed that 'we have so much to be grateful for.

'So much progress has been made to transform the standard of living since the war.'

But she could not help asking whether people were any happier.

She bemoaned the advent of the Pill and the collapse of sexual morality. 'In my day, drugs were unknown, families remained together, divorce was a rarity and children felt secure.

'Were our sacrifices made so hooligans may run wild? And aggressive behaviour be accepted as the norm by TV interviewers and society in general?'

A captain with a Military Cross for valour under fire thought Britain was still the best country in the world.

The 'occasional' sight of parents and nicely dressed children gave an otherwise gloomy veteran of the Italian campaign a sense that 'what we did all those years ago was not for nothing'.

A grandmother, the widow of a Royal Marine who took part in the D-Day landings, felt the National Health Service had descended into chaos but was grateful for a pensioner's free television licence, 'which brings art, travel and animals into my home', and being able to text her grandchildren.

Just being alive was a bonus. 'Although I hate what is happening to our country, I am so happy to be here, grumbling, but remembering better, happier days,' she wrote.

But one of the bitterest complaints of the veterans was that their trenchant views on many of the matters aired here were constantly ignored by those in authority.

Their letters of complaint to councillors and MPs went unanswered.

It was as if they didn't matter, except when wheeled out for the rituals of Remembrance Day.

One person complained 'it is not right those lost in the World Wars are only remembered publicly on Remembrance Day'

'Why do so many of the British public confuse sentimentality with genuine concern for others?' asked one letter-writer.

But this was the generation honoured in Remembrance services last weekend, showered with gratitude and teary-eyed sentiments as their dwindling ranks marched unsteadily past the Cenotaph and other war memorials throughout the UK.

The overall impression any reader of the letters gets is that this generation feel unheard, unwanted and unimportant.

This remarkable collection of their thoughts should give us pause for reflection.

They may be deemed beyond their sell-by date (and many of their views may seem unacceptable, flouting every sort of 'ism' imaginable) but, by their deeds of 60-plus years ago, they have won the right to be listened to and their disillusionment noted with respect.

In one letter in this collection, an RAF mechanic quoted a poem about comrades who fell in battle: 'I mourned them then, But now surviving in a world, Indifferent to their hopes and dreams, I grieve more for the living.'

• The Unknown Warriors by Nicholas Pringle, £11.69. For copies, go to the website The Unknown Warriors, a WWII non fiction history book in paperback and ebook for kindle etc format.

 

[muse]

@Desert Fox

Great thread -- it's interesting that none of the Islam mongers on our forum have commented on the thread - is it any wonder those poor Europeans are threatened?

 

[Desert Fox]

@Desert Fox

Great thread -- it's interesting that none of the Islam mongers on our forum have commented on the thread - is it any wonder those poor Europeans are threatened?

They don't comment on this thread because the bitter truth is staring them right in the face and any attempt to counter the truth is futile.

 

[muse]

Give em hell!

 

[Desert Fox]

Give em hell!

Read the argument i had with that Saudi BannuUmayah. His argument was a utter failure.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/europe...onalism-rise-europe-russia-4.html#post3516901