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Problems with the production of the Turkish tank Altay
According to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly" in an article by Kerry Herschelman "Turkey cancels contract with Tümosan for Altay MBT engines", the program of serial production of the Turkish national main tank Altay has faced new problems after the Defense Industry Administration (Savunma Sanayii Mustesarligi - SSM) The Ministry of Defense of Turkey on February 24, 2017 terminated the contract with the Turkish company Tümosan for the creation and serial production of its own diesel engine for the Altay tank.
Tümosan in March 2015 received from the SSM contract worth 190 million euros to create for Altay with foreign technical assistance a diesel engine with a capacity of 1500 to 1800 hp. As a partner in the development of the engine and the acquisition of Tümosan technologies in October 2015, the well-known Austrian company AVL List GmbH chose. At the same time, the Turkish side should have full intellectual property rights and export rights to the engine. However, at the end of 2016, the Austrian government denied the AVL List a license to transfer technology to Turkey. This happened after the Austrian parliament unanimously adopted a resolution in November demanding the imposition of an embargo on the supply of arms and military technology to Turkey in view of the massive human rights violations committed by the Turkish government following the unsuccessful attempt of a military coup on July 15, 2016. As a result, in January 2017, Tümosan was forced to terminate the cooperation agreement with the AVL List.
Tümosan admitted that after that, she tried to find a new partner in the development of tank diesel among companies in the US, Canada, Germany, Britain, Spain, Japan, South Korea, Russia and Ukraine, but in all cases without satisfactory conditions.
The first 250 series Altay tanks should be equipped with imported German MTU diesel engines (which are also installed on prototypes), but the Turkish Defense Ministry wants to equip the tanks of the next issues with Turkish-made engines.
It should be noted that the program for the development and production of a tank engine with a capacity of 1500-1800 hp. On Tümosan itself was extremely ambitious, because until now this company produced only industrial and tractor diesel engines with a capacity of not more than 115 hp.
In the meantime, until now, the general uncertainty remains in the very program for the start of the production of the Altay. The head tank developer Otokar announced the completion of the tank tests at the end of the fall of 2016, and then, after the military demanded additional tests - at the end of February 2017 (two demonstrators were built - for the MTR trial tests and for FTR armament tests - and two complete prototypes - PV1 and PV2 - the Altay tank). Nevertheless, SSM continues to remain silent about the beginning of the mass production of Altay.
Deputy head of SSM Ismail Demir said in January that the decision to start serial production of the tank was postponed, as Altay tests "are still going on." In addition, apparently, the remaining problems with the development of the tank, informally sluggishly explain the intention of the SSM to announce a tender for the mass production of Altay, and not in favor of Otokar. This is due to the well-known long-standing hostile relations between the owners of the Istanbul holding company Koç, which includes Otokar, and the president of Turkey, RT. Erdogan. If earlier Otokar, as the main contractor in the development of the Altay tank, reasonably hoped that it would become the main tank manufacturer at its plant in the Arifiye-Adapazary area in the vicinity of Ankara, now in the light of SSM's intentions to announce a tender for mass production of Altay, The production of the tank looks for Otokar non-guaranteed. It is assumed that if Otokar is not completely deprived of the serial production contract, it will be forced to split the production of the Altay with other Turkish armored vehicles that expressed a desire to participate in the tender - Navy companies (now controlled by businessman Edhem Sandzak, close to RT Erdogan ) And FNSS. It should be noted that if such a division takes place, this (the parallel creation of several lines of tank production) will become unprecedented for the practice of tank production in a country without competence in this respect.
The first batch of serial Altay should include 250 tanks with an estimated contract value of $ 3.5 billion. In 2016, Otokar announced its readiness to start mass production within 18-22 months after receiving a firm contract. In February 2017, Otokar CEO Ali Koch said that the company spent $ 1 billion of its own funds for the creation and testing of the tank. It is believed that as much as 1 billion US dollars was invested in the program by the Ministry of Defense of Turkey!
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T-84-120 Combat vehicle "Yatagan" (Article 478N1)
According to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly" in an article by Kerry Herschelman "Turkey cancels contract with Tümosan for Altay MBT engines", the program of serial production of the Turkish national main tank Altay has faced new problems after the Defense Industry Administration (Savunma Sanayii Mustesarligi - SSM) The Ministry of Defense of Turkey on February 24, 2017 terminated the contract with the Turkish company Tümosan for the creation and serial production of its own diesel engine for the Altay tank.
Tümosan in March 2015 received from the SSM contract worth 190 million euros to create for Altay with foreign technical assistance a diesel engine with a capacity of 1500 to 1800 hp. As a partner in the development of the engine and the acquisition of Tümosan technologies in October 2015, the well-known Austrian company AVL List GmbH chose. At the same time, the Turkish side should have full intellectual property rights and export rights to the engine. However, at the end of 2016, the Austrian government denied the AVL List a license to transfer technology to Turkey. This happened after the Austrian parliament unanimously adopted a resolution in November demanding the imposition of an embargo on the supply of arms and military technology to Turkey in view of the massive human rights violations committed by the Turkish government following the unsuccessful attempt of a military coup on July 15, 2016. As a result, in January 2017, Tümosan was forced to terminate the cooperation agreement with the AVL List.
Tümosan admitted that after that, she tried to find a new partner in the development of tank diesel among companies in the US, Canada, Germany, Britain, Spain, Japan, South Korea, Russia and Ukraine, but in all cases without satisfactory conditions.
The first 250 series Altay tanks should be equipped with imported German MTU diesel engines (which are also installed on prototypes), but the Turkish Defense Ministry wants to equip the tanks of the next issues with Turkish-made engines.
It should be noted that the program for the development and production of a tank engine with a capacity of 1500-1800 hp. On Tümosan itself was extremely ambitious, because until now this company produced only industrial and tractor diesel engines with a capacity of not more than 115 hp.
In the meantime, until now, the general uncertainty remains in the very program for the start of the production of the Altay. The head tank developer Otokar announced the completion of the tank tests at the end of the fall of 2016, and then, after the military demanded additional tests - at the end of February 2017 (two demonstrators were built - for the MTR trial tests and for FTR armament tests - and two complete prototypes - PV1 and PV2 - the Altay tank). Nevertheless, SSM continues to remain silent about the beginning of the mass production of Altay.
Deputy head of SSM Ismail Demir said in January that the decision to start serial production of the tank was postponed, as Altay tests "are still going on." In addition, apparently, the remaining problems with the development of the tank, informally sluggishly explain the intention of the SSM to announce a tender for the mass production of Altay, and not in favor of Otokar. This is due to the well-known long-standing hostile relations between the owners of the Istanbul holding company Koç, which includes Otokar, and the president of Turkey, RT. Erdogan. If earlier Otokar, as the main contractor in the development of the Altay tank, reasonably hoped that it would become the main tank manufacturer at its plant in the Arifiye-Adapazary area in the vicinity of Ankara, now in the light of SSM's intentions to announce a tender for mass production of Altay, The production of the tank looks for Otokar non-guaranteed. It is assumed that if Otokar is not completely deprived of the serial production contract, it will be forced to split the production of the Altay with other Turkish armored vehicles that expressed a desire to participate in the tender - Navy companies (now controlled by businessman Edhem Sandzak, close to RT Erdogan ) And FNSS. It should be noted that if such a division takes place, this (the parallel creation of several lines of tank production) will become unprecedented for the practice of tank production in a country without competence in this respect.
The first batch of serial Altay should include 250 tanks with an estimated contract value of $ 3.5 billion. In 2016, Otokar announced its readiness to start mass production within 18-22 months after receiving a firm contract. In February 2017, Otokar CEO Ali Koch said that the company spent $ 1 billion of its own funds for the creation and testing of the tank. It is believed that as much as 1 billion US dollars was invested in the program by the Ministry of Defense of Turkey!
@HRK , @The-Eagle , @S.U.R.B. , @Mugwop , @Penguin , @Tankman , @Manticore , @Zarvan , @Dazzler
T-84-120 Combat vehicle "Yatagan" (Article 478N1)
