Uighurs as the invisible victims of the international system

[BigDaddyWatch]

Kurds have all the freedoms they need while Uighur, Tibetans, others and even Chinese don't have basic human rights in China. It is a ticking bomb waiting to explode.

The Kurds don't agree with that. If the Kurds are so contented in Turkey then why is there still the PKK ? And yes the Kurds are a time bomb for Turkey.

Turkish jets bomb Kurdish PKK rebels near Iraq - BBC News

 

[atatwolf]

The Kurds don't agree with that. If the Kurds are so contented in Turkey then why is there still the PKK ? And yes the Kurds are a time bomb for Turkey.

It is a fact that Kurds have full rights compared to Uighur, Tibetas, Hui, average Chinese in China. This is similar to Soviet Union who had the same mindset. The clock is ticking bro. The writing is on the wall.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

It is a fact that Kurds have full rights compared to Uighur, Tibetas, Hui, average Chinese in China. This is similar to Soviet Union who had the same mindset. The clock is ticking bro. The writing is on the wall.

China will only collapse in one's wet dream. The best time for China to break up is from 1911 - 1949, warlord and Japanese invasion era. Even then, those warlords who want declare independence get hammer by other de facto independent warlord.

One reason PRC wont be soviet is because PRC is very monolithic. She is 91% Han and among the non Han, many are fake minorities. Why would Han in PRC want to fake minorities, reason is, PRC has been giving minorities alot of goodies, that Han Chinese covet. By faking minorities, "Han Chinese" get to discriminate Han Chinese.

The few percent of Uighur will assimilate before you wake up next morning. Next these Uighur are going to fight anyone who want to break up China.

 

[atatwolf]

China will only collapse in one's wet dream. The best time for China to break up is from 1911 - 1949, warlord and Japanese invasion era. Even then, those warlords who want declare independence get hammer by other de facto independent warlord.

One reason PRC wont be soviet is because PRC is very monolithic. She is 91% Han and among the non Han, many are fake minorities. Why would Han in PRC want to fake minorities, reason is, PRC has been giving minorities alot of goodies, that Han Chinese covet. By faking minorities, "Han Chinese" get to discriminate Han Chinese.

The few percent of Uighur will assimilate before you wake up next morning. Next these Uighur are going to fight anyone who want to break up China.

China will only collapse in one's wet dream. The best time for China to break up is from 1911 - 1949, warlord and Japanese invasion era. Even then, those warlords who want declare independence get hammer by other de facto independent warlord.

One reason PRC wont be soviet is because PRC is very monolithic. She is 91% Han and among the non Han, many are fake minorities. Why would Han in PRC want to fake minorities, reason is, PRC has been giving minorities alot of goodies, that Han Chinese covet. By faking minorities, "Han Chinese" get to discriminate Han Chinese.

The few percent of Uighur will assimilate before you wake up next morning. Next these Uighur are going to fight anyone who want to break up China.

Keep dreaming. The majority of the people doesn't matter what ethnic background doesn't want the fascist undemocratic rule of Beijing. It is matter of time that Beijing will loose control. They can't deliver and people are sick of the suppression.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

You are just a stupid japanese under false flag，aren‘t ya
Your signature made me chuckle

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Keep dreaming. The majority of the people doesn't matter what ethnic background doesn't want the fascist undemocratic rule of Beijing. It is matte fr of time that Beijing will loose control. They can't deliver and people are sick of the suppression.

Chinese are not fan of CPC but that does not mean that they want CPC to collapse. Although there are chances that PRC will splinter, but I will not bet on it.

China did remain in one piece even since opium war. The biggest chance of doing away with unitary China is before 1949. Now hope is slim.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Keep dreaming. The majority of the people doesn't matter what ethnic background doesn't want the fascist undemocratic rule of Beijing. It is matter of time that Beijing will loose control. They can't deliver and people are sick of the suppression.

Indeed. In a matter of time, Beijing will loosen control over the population as the country becomes more democratic - with Chinese characteristics of course.

Oh wait - your typo makes more sense than your intended message of losing control. It is heaven's will correcting your foolishness. It is also heavens will that Turkey is a fraction of a fraction of what once was the mighty Ottoman empire.

Its what happen when you build an empire with nothing but kebabs tying the people together.

 

[atatwolf]

Indeed. In a matter of time, Beijing will loosen control over the population as the country becomes more democratic - with Chinese characteristics of course.

Oh wait - your typo makes more sense than your intended message of losing control. It is heaven's will correcting your foolishness. It is also heavens will that Turkey is a fraction of a fraction of what once was the mighty Ottoman empire.

Its what happen when you build an empire with nothing but kebabs tying the people together.

Just like what happened to the ex-soviet countries who don't want anything to do with Moscow anymore they will never want anything to do with Beijing after all those crackdowns and voilence against protestors. Most will be closer to Japan anyhow. Japan will definitely need military presence to keep Beijing out afterwards.

 

[SelfServeFive]

The Chinese win again. Thank you.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Just like what happened to the ex-soviet countries who don't want anything to do with Moscow anymore they will never want anything to do with Beijing after all those crackdowns and voilence against protestors. Most will be closer to Japan anyhow. Japan will definitely need military presence to keep Beijing out afterwards.

China and Soviet union. Apples and oranges. Ive mentioned this before but your too daft to understand.

Pretty much all minorities in China are partiotic Chinese citizens. Only a handful of dumbasses who make a lot of noise gets any attention though.

If you think that Japan will counter balance China, you have been inhaling too much Kebab fumes. Just a couple of years ago, China overtook Japan as Asias largest economy in nominal terms. It took only a few years to double that achievement and the growth is near exponential for decades to come.

If you want to break China, better do it now. Time is trying to screw you over.

 

[Huaren]

I see a certain turk member falling into his china bashing mode again, it must be that time in the month.
Quite entertaining (and pathetic).

 

[OneMORETime]

Pakistan will betray China when it comes to issues related to religion.. China is fast becoming a majority Christian country.

There is a very high possibility that India and China will eventually sort out border issue and be partners in the near future as there is no people to people hatred between the two countries..
Then the two countries can deal with the low level 3rd world countries and solve the issue of Islamic fanaticism..

 

[mike2000 is back]

Every muslim country cares for turkey including Pakistan.

I was about to say the same thing. Funny thing is, when a Turkish member makes comments about defending their Muslim Uygurs brethren(even when they are involved in terorists acts), you see no Pakistani defending China or trying to reason with such actions. The reason for this is that deep down they support their Muslim brother Turkey, but are afraid/dont want to hurt the feelings of their Atheist Chinese ally, so better to keep calm/silent(though support your Uygur 'oppressed' muslim brothers privately.lol) I think its a wise decision though, they are face with two difficult options. Will be intersting to see their reaction if/when Turkey ever ups the ante in Xijiang in case something major there ever happens again like in 2008. I will like to see what happens.

Moral of the story is that Religion to some of these countries/people is always thicker than any strong alliance. That's what you get when you base your policies on religion/ideology.

Pakistan will betray China when it comes to issues related to religion.. China is fast becoming a majority Christian country.

There is a very high possibility that India and China will eventually sort out border issue and be partners in the near future as there is no people to people hatred between the two countries..
Then the two countries can deal with the low level 3rd world countries and solve the issue of Islamic fanaticism..

Agree 100% its very likely(though not assured).

Chinese are not fan of CPC but that does not mean that they want CPC to collapse. Although there are chances that PRC will splinter, but I will not bet on it.

China did remain in one piece even since opium war. The biggest chance of doing away with unitary China is before 1949. Now hope is slim.

Well i have folowed some of your posts on here, though i dont agree with some, i must say you are rather very honest(which is rare to see on this forum).

From the look of things, you are a patriotic Chinese(though singaporean), but you are rather anti CCP to some extent, the disadvantage/draw back for you is that you will be labeled a traitor by most mainlanders(well few won't)/government since you are not a fan of the CCP. China equates the CCP to the country/state itself, so if you are against the party you are automatically against the country.lool Which is rather stupid i must say, since for example i love my country, but i HATE our current conservative government to the core.But that doesn't make me a traitor/liberal or whatever, Since a person can LOVE HIS COUNTRY to death, but still despise the ruling party, because political parties will always COME AND GO, but the country will always remain/stay.

It is a fact that Kurds have full rights compared to Uighur, Tibetas, Hui, average Chinese in China. This is similar to Soviet Union who had the same mindset. The clock is ticking bro. The writing is on the wall.

Be more balance and rational in your views bro.

 

[atatwolf]

Nobody supports terrorism here. Uighur doesn't equal terrorism. They are the original people of that land. If you are against Uighur terrorism you should also be against the state terrorism of Beijing not only against Uighur but also Tibetans, Hui, Mongols, Chinese, etc.

[video]

 

[mike2000 is back]

Nobody supports terrorism here. Uighur doesn't equal terrorism. They are the original people of that land. If you are against Uighur terrorism you should also be against the state terrorism of Beijing not only against Uighur but also Tibetans, Hui, Mongols, Chinese, etc.

[video]

I never knew Hui and Mongols were 'oppressed' as well..... Anyway, its up to every country to tackle their own internal issues(well, when they can/have the capabilities to), i just find it funny a relatively small country like Turkey is sooo 'concern/involved' in what happens in a far flung foreign , to the point that it even sends aganets with fake pasports to smuggle out such people to wage war abroad. I think Turkey is lucky though that they are doing it to an insecure/immature power like China, had it been say the U.S then you wil be bombed back to the stone ages(Afghanistan/Iraq) for supporting terrorism and a huge media war will be on going 24h/7 against your country..lool

Anyway i dont condone terrorism anywhere/nor in any country.be it some terrorists Uygurs chooping off random civilians or chechenyans bombing train stations, Boko haram killing anybody they see, A shebab, TTP, ISISI, etc...To me terrorists ought to be given a one way to hell/heaven where they can meet their virgins and have a good time/pleasure. I just find it funny your Pakistanis brothers have all gone quiet/silent, none of them is backing you nor their ally China.