Uighur abuse: Australia urged to impose sanctions on China

[haidian]

Not good to be so high headed mate....you are still up not there among first world countries......besides think if you loose them as a market....it will be hard for you then to hold on to you economy growth rate and feed your 2 Billion people.

Who are first world countries? Macau, Qatar or Singapore? When talking about international affairs, only a nation's overall power speaks, we don't have 2 billion people but still enough to crush those US lapdogs like nothing.

I don't know much about religions but as long as they don't hurt China, I have no problems with them, radically religious and radically anti religious are both radicals who should be curbed.

 

[damm1t]

and now only come back to bite the hand that feeds you..

Hahahaha hold on buddy, 3 billion $ short-term loan doesn't feed a trillion dolar economy. I have no time to lecture you about its economic perspective but we didn't get that money to pay officers' salaries Even after second quarter growth rate announced %5.2 . So don't be cocky and learn some Market & Liqudite terms.

 

[Beast]

Hahahaha hold on buddy, 3 billion $ short-term loan doesn't feed a trillion dolar economy. I have no time to lecture you about its economic perspective but we didn't get that money to pay officers' salaries Even after second quarter growth rate announced %5.2 . So don't be cocky and learn some Market & Liqudite terms.

The cocky is you. Turkey is the one knocking on China's door and ask for money. We didnt go to Turkey and ask you for Loan. Take the money and learn how to act properly. If you think USD 3billion is insignificant. Spit it out now, if not shut up.

US can create agenda against uighur/China. They can do the same for Kurdistan of Turkey. Or maybe you think Trump and Erdogan are great friends?

Do this uighur looks like imprison in Chinese camp and looks torture?

He is currently the most popular and adore sportsmen in China.

 

[Roybot]

Uyghurs are a lost cause. Muslim countries are too much indebted to the PRC to raise their voice and the western countries will find it increasingly hard to corner a strong China. Heck Muslims like Pakistanis, don't even dare to condemn this on an online forum, forget about any support from the government.

The Uyghurs might as well get rid of this "foreign ideological virus" and fall in line as per the communist party's guidelines. The sooner the better for them.

 

[Harvey Pandit]

Australians are as racist as they get, they have a large Muslim nation north of them and there are many illegals going to Australia from there.

Of course Australians are racist.
They are mixture of Anglo-Celtic and Minor Italian-Greeko population.

Majority of our supportors are from Australia.

 

[Deliorman]

Does it mean you would kill your own child if he/she is born sick?

That’s a very stupid comparison but I will answer anyway:

Of course I won’t but that doesn’t mean that the very ill kid won’t die anyway no matter what you do. To help it you have two choices- to do whatever you can financially to treat it in hospitals etc. or to just cry, and pray and curse to your bad luck while doing nothing.

Now tell me which option Turkey’s Government, other Turkic states and the Muslim Countries chose to deal with this problem? It’s definitely not the first one.

Everyone just ignores the issue or at best says something against it but can’t do anything other than talking on the internet.

 

[Jackdaws]

China has been getting away with such behavior for eons. It won't stop. Muslim countries are waking up now except those which are economically dependent on China. But the Chinese have done this to Tibetans since the 1950s.

 

[Beast]

China has been getting away with such behavior for eons. It won't stop. Muslim countries are waking up now except those which are economically dependent on China. But the Chinese have done this to Tibetans since the 1950s.

 

[Nein]

That’s a very stupid comparison but I will answer anyway:

Of course I won’t but that doesn’t mean that the very ill kid won’t die anyway no matter what you do. To help it you have two choices- to do whatever you can financially to treat it in hospitals etc. or to just cry, and pray and curse to your bad luck while doing nothing.

Now tell me which option Turkey’s Government, other Turkic states and the Muslim Countries chose to deal with this problem? It’s definitely not the first one.

Everyone just ignores the issue or at best says something against it but can’t do anything other than talking on the internet.

How about we support Nationalist China and dislodge the communists.

 

[Sam.]

Uyghurs are a lost cause. Muslim countries are too much indebted to the PRC to raise their voice and the western countries will find it increasingly hard to corner a strong China. Heck Muslims like Pakistanis, don't even dare to condemn this on an online forum, forget about any support from the government.

The Uyghurs might as well get rid of this "foreign ideological virus" and fall in line as per the communist party's guidelines. The sooner the better for them.

Uyghurs need to behave and leave foreign influence on them. They need to accept CCP or leave China and go to whereever they want to.

 

[Deliorman]

Only in your wet dreams. Traitors don’t know or respect history. This is why they lose everything.
You fuc**** traitor!

Where are the Hittites, the Etruscans, the Akadians, the Phonecians, the Thracians, the Aztecs now? All of them had huge empires in the past but where is their language and culture now?

But let my uneducated persona give you a quick historic lesson on Turkic people in Today’s Russia for example.

Do you know that during Ivan the Terrible (16th century) the number of Tartars (all kinds of Turkic tribes part of the Golden Horde) and Russians (all kinds of Slavs, Cossacs etc) living on the lands of today’s European Russia was basically equal- around 5 million each. Today Russians are around 200 million and Tatars are around 7-8 million with majority of them speaking Russian and not even knowing a word in their own language. Situation is very similar with other Turkic nations in today’s Russian Federation- all of them are being assimilated and losing their identity with every passing generation. If you don’t believe me go to “Independent” Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or whatever- even there they speak Russian among themselves and feel much more connected to Moscow and Russians than to Turks, Turan and Ankara... An exception here is Azerbaijan which is a birthplace of Pan-Turkism.

All of the above was achieved in decades of systematic opression, genocides and destruction, cultural assimilation- things were started during Ivan the Terrible and were finished during the USSR. Nowadays things are just slowly finishing off after the social and cultural fabric of those nations was destroyed from inside.

The same things the Communist scum in China is doing to Uyghurs in East Turkistan right now and nobody can do a thing about it. I come from an ex- Communist country and I know what real repression and dictatorship really means... Uyghurs can hardly do a thing against all that while they are outnumbered, outgunned and cut off from the rest of the world.

Have you seen someone in the Turkish Government or in Government medias speaking about the issue? You will see them cry about Syria, Palestine or Somalia, you will see them fill the country with all kinds of Afghan, Arab and African scum but when it comes to Uygurs, Turkmens in Iraq and Syria etc- they are all quiet.
How many Turks other than a few of us know about this when majority of them prefer to think about stupid wedding shows and last night’s episode of their favorite drama...

I know my words may not sound pleasing to the ears and to your emotions but they are all realistic and are just facts. You won’t change a thing with acting like an emotional lesbo and throwing insults to everyone who shows you the bitter reality in front of you so don’t act like a 10 years old spoiled child. Reality and what You wish to be true are very far apart.

 

[TaiShang]

I know my words may not sound pleasing to the ears and to your emotions but they are all realistic and are just facts. You won’t change a thing with acting like an emotional lesbo and throwing insults to everyone who shows you the bitter reality in front of you so don’t act like a 10 years old spoiled child. Reality and what You wish to be true are very far apart.

Look at from the bright side. China is teaching Uighurs to remember their true self, true culture and identity, and avoid Arabization or Middle Easternization.

This is perhaps salvaging what you have been losing over there. I heard that Arab/Middle East influence is growing fast in Turkey and people even begun to wear like them, and use their scripts in their stores. I guess even your President prefers Arabic terminology over Turkic ones.

All China wants is: Do not be influenced by foreign ideology, customs and do not get over-zealot on religion, especially in the public space.

I guess this is what at least a good 30% of people in Turkey wants (although their number may be declining due to migration and heavy religious indoctrination of kids in schools). Can we exchange your seculars with our zealots and everybody gets happy

If I were to be bitter, I would be bitter to Germany, because, they first promised to give you money in exchange for keeping the Syrian refugees. In the meantime, they sealed off borders and Turkey got nothing in return.

What Germany and the rest of the EU did to Turkey may have much longer and fundamental impact on Turkey than what China has been doing with its own people in its own land. Germany's damage will be long-lasting and impact you directly and fundamentally.

People worry about things here that they have zero power over and no relevancy.

 

[haidian]

China has been getting away with such behavior for eons. It won't stop. Muslim countries are waking up now except those which are economically dependent on China. But the Chinese have done this to Tibetans since the 1950s.

Tell me one Muslim country which doesn't have good relations with China ,just one is enough, the fact is that China enjoys cordial relations with all Muslim countries in the world while Muslim countries themselves usually don't.

Hahahaha hold on buddy, 3 billion $ short-term loan doesn't feed a trillion dolar economy. I have no time to lecture you about its economic perspective but we didn't get that money to pay officers' salaries Even after second quarter growth rate announced %5.2 . So don't be cocky and learn some Market & Liqudite terms.

‘We See China’s Security As Our Security’, says Turkish Minister
https://www.albawaba.com/news/‘we-see-china’s-security-our-security’-says-turkish-minister-1005386

How do you explain this? I assume your post in Turkish government is not higher than him, are you?

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Indeed. Xinjiang is much more developed than most of Kurdish cities of Turkey. Life expectancy is also higher.

Development roots out some archaic traditions and force a change in life-style in order to ensure that a national eco-system of perpetual growth is ensured.

These whinings are simply the weak objections to explosive growth. Overtime, they will become weaker and new generations will enjoy a much better economic life than their parents.

Xinjiang province is being transformed fundamentally as we speak. No development is without disturbing some established practices. This is a transition for some local people into a higher national economic and cultural life.

So said Soviets, Nazis etc.

Where are they now?

One china obsession will be the end of you, like Soviets, Nazis etc.

 

[haidian]

Uyghurs need to behave and leave foreign influence on them. They need to accept CCP or leave China and go to whereever they want to.

I don't think they want to go anywhere, they live a much better life than all their central Asian and middle Eastern neighbors, you don't think they want to cross the border to go to Afghannistan, do you?