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UAV strides by Pakistan and China spur India to expedite Israeli drone purchase

@Ind4Ever Why do we need more drones to counter our adversaries drones? Are we going to do dogfights with them ?

I wonder what kind of defence source was that who said this at first place . Unless they ain't stealth these drones are much bigger threat to terrorists than a professional military.

Anyways can be wrong plz correct me.
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@Abingdonboy is this news credible y do we need more drones to counter that of our adversaries? I can understand in a war situation the side which has more drones will have better surveillance and hence situational awareness but I doubt Burraq increases our need of the hour for drones.

IMHO its just a regular acquisition with bad journalism.

We don't need these for warfare but striking deep inside enemy territory. Thing is we are prepared to strike terror camps in Pakistan. Lots of good deed to doing to
 
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We don't need these for warfare but striking deep inside enemy territory. Thing is we are prepared to strike terror camps in Pakistan. Lots of good deed to doing to

Basically it has nothing to do with Burraq or whatever Chinese calls their drone as.

Could be a stupid Journalist or pressure tactics by our forces.

Anyways Regards.
 
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Rustom 22 is going to be fully operational around 2050 and will have all the advance features and will be completely invisible and will be able to deliver nuclear weapons with pin point accuracy.
This israhell drone is just time pass for drdo to still the technology for future reference OMG
 
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Rustom 22 is going to be fully operational around 2050 and will have all the advance features and will be completely invisible and will be able to deliver nuclear weapons with pin point accuracy.
This israhell drone is just time pass for drdo to still the technology for future reference OMG
you wrongly type rustom22 instead of tejas....
 
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Are u saying our neighbors one which produces and one which get it for free have more advanced drone technology than Israel? Lol just answer it man made I will tell about your thoughts and motive :enjoy:
Yes we and China have better technology than Israel but not USA
 
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Maybe India needs a good friend like we have China. India should promote self reliance and ask for help in becoming one from her friends. Media just making it a vs competition.
Yes e have done capabilities but we worked hard for it. India should also struggle to become a good drone player.
 
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Am I missing something here?? Is it correct to call an bought platform, ie bought off the shelf Complete non customized platform, as "indegeneous developed "??? Dose colouring the craft count as an effort in its development??

Also why would someone fuss over an slow moving ISR platform?? Though it can have a couple of A2G Weapons, it dose not have enough range, endurance or destructive War head to sweat over it. Specially by an ARMY with which can take care of low flying high subsonic CMs!! They are a great tool against terrorists not so much against hardent targets.
 
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I generally support India
But have to appreciate that Pakistan has stolen the march on the armed drone front


Shame on the useless public sector defence establishment in India

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I generally support India
But have to appreciate that Pakistan has stolen the march on the armed drone front


Shame on the useless public sector defence establishment in India

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sorry dude , most of people here don't know about UAV tech at all. Israeli UAV's are best on Earth.

Let Wait them to release any video evidence . Like PA also said many things which later found out to be untrue.

Yes we and China have better technology than Israel but not USA
oh really that's why grand daddy of China , Russia and Turkey buy Israeli . In technology no one can beat Israeli its proven all over time again and again.
 
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The Drone Index: Nescom Burraq Combat Drone

Developed by Pakistan since 2003




Earlier this month, Pakistan joined the select handful of countries who possess lethal drones. For the first time ever, the official media outlet of the armed forces announced the successful test firing of a missile by a UAV.

On March 13 the Burraq participated in a live demonstration before a civilian and military audience. While airborne it tracked both static and mobile targets, eliminating both with its wing-mounted Barq missiles.

Two weeks later, on March 23, the Burraq swept above the Republic Day ceremonies in Islamabad where Pakistan’s tanks and armored vehicles were being paraded. It is believed the occasion served as a booster for Pakistan’s armed forces, who are still battling militants in the country’s northwest.

Earlier this week, the Burraq allegedly flew combat missions around the Tirah Valley in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.


The Barq missile about to fly off its hardpoint.

The Burraq’s existence is credited to the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (Nescom), a state-owned industrial complex based in Islamabad Pakistan. Nescom doesn’t have an official website and product literature on the Burraq is unavailable online.

A fair amount of speculation has since emerged concerning the Burraq’s origins. Some analysts believe it’s either a license-built or imported Chinese CH-3 drone. Others claim the Burraq was developed by Pakistan based on the US-made hobbyist Long EZ remote control plane.

There is a possibility the Burraq is an evolved variant of the Falco, an Italian twin boom UAV used by Pakistan’s air force in limited numbers. But there is scant evidence proving this.


Pakistan’s armed forces have a wealth of experience with UAVs. Like most countries with sophisticated air defense assets, maintaining a fleet of target drones is required to test SAMs and anti-aircraft artillery.

Since the previous decade, each military branch have acquired squadrons of light and medium UAVs for ISR missions, including the German-made Luna X-2000 and locally built models. The latter are proof that Pakistan’s unmanned vehicle industry is mature.

The Burraq serves as the armed counterpart of the Shahpar, a similar medium range UAV designed for reconnaissance and intelligence gathering. The Shahpar is manufactured by the local defense conglomerate GIDS. Both were formally revealed by the ISPR in late 2013. At the time the Burraq’s role as an armed UAV wasn’t disclosed.

The Burraq is recognizable for its sleek fuselage, swept-wing design, and distinctive canards. If the Burraq and Shahpar are indeed identical except for their roles, then it’s the Shahpar’s characteristics which bear mentioning.

The Shahpar uses a 1,000 horsepower propeller driven airframe with a maximum speed of 150 km/h. Its ceiling is below 20,000 feet and its endurance is equally limited at just seven hours.

The Shahpar, however, is capable of automatic take off and landing.



It’s unknown how many Burraqs are operational. Their export potential is a question mark too. The Burraq and models similar to it do represent the oncoming generation of UAVs: low cost precision attack systems for militaries in the developing world.

The Burraq’s purpose is consistently identified as an anti-terrorist platform. It makes sense given Pakistan’s experience of having US drones flying within its airspace.

http://21stcenturyas...-nescom-burraq/
 
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UAV strides by Pakistan and China spur India to expedite Israeli drone purchase




(JNS.org) India has accelerated plans to purchase Israeli drones that can be armed amid concerns regarding its conflict with Pakistan over Kashmir and its border dispute with China. Just weeks ago Pakistan reported using a homemade drone while attacking militants on its soil.

An Indian defense source said that while the plan to buy Israeli unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) was first established three years ago, India has asked Israel for a speedy delivery in the wake of both Pakistan and China developing their own drone capabilities. India has already purchased and deployed some Israeli drones along the Kashmir mountains for surveillance, and along its disputed border with China.

In September the Indian government approved the purchase of 10 Heron TP drones from Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) that can be equipped with weapons, according to an Indian air force official.

The former Head of the government-funded Center for Land Warfare Studies in New Delhi Gurmeet Kanwal said that the Israeli-purchased Heron drones that will enter into Indian service by 2016 will allow India to conduct deep strikes, Reuters reported.


Posted on September 22, 2015 by JNS.org.

UAV strides by Pakistan and China spur India to expedite Israeli drone purchase — JNS.org
What would be India reaction if we produce something like CH-5 with 8 BARQ missiles
 
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How dare you guyz talking shit about Supa powaaaaaa :lol::lol: oh sorry forgt to mention "a country who is heavily dependent on foreign military hardware trying for permanent seat in Security council" :lol::lol:
 
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How dare you guyz talking shit about Supa powaaaaaa :lol::lol: oh sorry forgt to mention "a country who is heavily dependent on foreign military hardware trying for permanent seat in Security council" :lol::lol:
Just imagine if we come up with something like CH-5
 
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Pakistani NESCOM Burraq Drone programme actually started much before the Chinese CH-3 Drone, while there is no evidence of copy. Pakistan has no issue claiming if CH-3 had any resemblance to Burraq....but the truth is Pakistanis are the only pioneers of Burraq Drone programme built by NESCOM and Integrated Dynamics...Pakistani UAVs has been under development since 2002, and it exports a number of UAVs to foreign countries anyway.

Also the Chinese version of MQ-1 advanced drone is thought to be the copied ones from American drones that regularly crashed in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the war booty was handed over to Chinese later...even Iranians are known to give copy of US captured drone data to China, for reengineering purposes.

NESCOM Burraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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