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UAE foreign minister visits Armenian Genocide Memorial

Turkey does not even have the capability to remove Al-Assad next door or remove a few hostile Kurds in a few cities in tiny flat Northern Syria let alone deal with KRG in Northern Iraq or as barked by Erdogan not long ago, Iraqi Shia militias, and you live in such a fantasy world were Turkey can do anything to not only UAE but Egypt and KSA? The same Egypt that alone has almost 20 million more people and alone is larger? Let alone KSA which is 3 times larger.

Economically the GCC alone is almost 3 times more powerful.

Should you not attend the next Turkish-Israeli meeting at the Israeli embassy in Ankara or attend the NATO military base in Turkey?

Yes, add Kuwait and India to that list.:lol:

All while your tiny and impoverished country has become a province of India. Don't you have better things to do than what the UAE foreign minister is doing in a sovereign country?

You were barking like a dog when defending tiny Qatar (otherwise known as the regional US military base) and talking about sovereignty. I guess that this does not apply to UAE and Armenia ah?

In fact just to piss irrelevant likes like you and foreigners, UAE should built a military base in Armenia next to the Russian one!:lol: Using Bangladeshi labour imported from Qatar! How about that?

Anyway when will you stop licking a certain part of Erdogan? If he starts barking against Bangladesh (as he has done actually) you will probably be the first one to follow suit as a mindless drone.

waiting for your king's men to enter syria :woot:
 
BTW, those two well-known anti Arab trolls are what they are. I should not have responded to their provocations that they started and Arabs and Bengali people have no animosity against each other and in fact the GCC is home to many Bangladeshi people and dynasties of Arab origin has also ruled what is modern-day Bangladesh and Arabs have settled in Bangladesh. As have Bangladeshi pilgrims in Hijaz and Southern Iraq. I would want to apologize to other Bangladeshi users here or those reading (non-members). I have nothing against Bangladeshi people which my history here proofs but if somebody is attacking and insulting Arabs for no reasons I sometimes react in a similar manner.

BTW posting that music video of Saad Lamjarred (with over 500 million views) and almost 75.000 Youtube comments (many from Bangladesh) show that Arabs and Bangladeshi people have no problems with each other.


The two will from now on be ignored unless they change their behavior and learn to engage in interesting discussions and not moronic ones.

waiting for your king's men to enter syria :woot:

Who told you that KSA has ever contemplated invading Syria? BTW we are busy in Yemen. We are engaged in the largest military operation of any Arab, Muslim and regional country. The scale of that operation cannot be compared to a limited number of troops (mostly using proxies) in tiny Northern Syria.

When will you join Al-Assad's men in Syria?:woot:
 
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Chester Bennington has died. For this reason I will let your slights pass.
 
Who told you that KSA has ever contemplated invading Syria? BTW we are busy in Yemen. We are engaged in the largest military operation of any Arab, Muslim and regional country. The scale of that operation cannot be compared to a limited number of troops (mostly using proxies) in tiny Northern Syria.

When will you join Al-Assad's men in Syria?:woot:

not my war. I see saudi humiliation and utter defeat. Kiss goodbye any future influence your coward king will ever in Syria. Seems he's not willing to risk is position for syrian oppositions, but he'll troll them http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-plans-to-send-troops-to-syria-a6867636.html
 
not my war. I see saudi humiliation and utter defeat. Kiss goodbye any future influence your coward king will ever in Syria.

Not your war but you are following it closely every single day, it seems.

Yet somehow in your logic a civil war in Syria is KSA's alpha and omega. Talk about a turncoat.

I see nothing as KSA involvement in Syria was always minimal. It was only overestimated by your likes as you used to blame KSA for every Al-Assad loss even despite the support for anti-Al-Assad elements always being limited to light weaponry and political talk of Al-Assad needing to step down like much of the Arab and Muslim world, let alone international community. BTW what occurs in Syria is not really directly impacting what occurs in KSA. As for Saudi Arabian influence in Syria, it is well and alive as always. Millenia old historical ties on all fronts (history, religion, ancestry, culture, language, geography etc.) and tribal/family/clan ties are not going to disappear. Ever.
 
Not your war but you are following it closely every single day, it seems.

Yet somehow in your logic a civil war in Syria is KSA's alpha and omega. Talk about a turncoat.

I see nothing as KSA involvement in Syria was always minimal. It was only overestimated by your likes as you used to blame KSA for every Al-Assad loss even despite the support for anti-Al-Assad elements always being limited to light weaponry and political talk of Al-Assad needing to step down like much of the Arab and Muslim world, let alone international community. BTW what occurs in Syria is not really directly impacting what occurs in KSA. As for Saudi Arabian influence in Syria, it is well and alive as always.
i'm enjoying wahhabi defeat and your royals inability to do anything. Your royals spent billions for no gain at all. Proves my belief that your nation has money and nothing else.
 
i'm enjoying wahhabi defeat and your royals inability to do anything. Your royals spent billions for no gain at all. Proves my belief that your nation has money and nothing else.

First of all there are no imaginary "Wahhabis" in Syria. Nor am I interested in whether they win or lose.

Secondly no billions have been spent. It is just your own fantasy. You need to provide proof of this. If KSA had spent billions in Syria there would likely be no Al-Assad as only the involvement of Russia saved him. FOR NOW that is. In fact it became very clear early on into the conflict that the US (the main player) was not interested in a regime change (remember the famous red lines that Obama drew a few times afterwards to backtrack)? Nor did KSA actually as the Syrian opposition was and is dominated by pro-MB forces that the regime in KSA is not happy about which is not actually breaking news. Similarly KSA is not happy about ISIS, Al-Nusra and other radical groups that pose a threat to KSA and the region. This is not breaking news but as usual it is easy to use KSA as a scapegoat and blame everything on it. You have been doing that for years here. Actually you have not been doing anything else other than blabbering about KSA 24/7. Just take a look at your user history and count the posts of yours that have not contained the word KSA somehow. It is very difficult not to find such posts, lol. Says a lot about who is obsessed about who.

I could not care less about your beliefs about anything.

To repeat myself, as for Saudi Arabian influence in Syria, it is well and alive as always. Millenia old historical ties on all fronts (history, religion, ancestry, culture, language, geography etc.) and tribal/family/clan ties are not going to disappear. Ever.

BTW you should not be so quick. Al-Assad is on loan and to think that Syria will ever be ruled by him again (all of it) is wishful thinking. Besides as I already told you 1000 times, I have no problem with Al-Assad other than his brutality against the Syrian people and his too close ties to the Mullah's in Iran.

You think that any sane Arab worships the current day rulers (1 out of 1000's of dynasties throughout recorded history) and that we care about them more than our own people, nations, land etc. you are more ignorant that I ever thought you to be.
 
I think that you are confusing this behavior with your own master (Erdogan) who used to shake the hands of the likes of Ariel Sharon and Shimon Peres not that long ago.





Who recognizes Israel and hosts an Israeli embassy. Whose country never fought against Israel even once. Go fool non-Arabs with your idiotic rhetoric instead of wasting our time here.

Go worry about your own country and stop making a fool out of yourself you laughable hypocrite. Leave the fantasies to your own little bedroom if you even have such a thing.



Are you comparing a few thousand civilian casualties in a civil war initiated by Houthis along with their henchman (former dictator Ali Abdullah Saleh), 50% of all civilian casualties caused by Houthis/Saleh themselves, with a genocide (as per most sources) where 1.5 million Armenians died?

You will probably claim that this story is a lie too:

The sheikh who saved my family

In the harsh Syrian Desert, honouring the act of kindness that saved my grandad’s life.


  • By Dawn Anahid MacKeen
19 June 2017

Just off the road, the sandstorm twisted and spun like a top above the brown Syrian Desert. We were speeding eastward towards the city of Raqqa, my fixer Levon almost coy about whom we would find there. “I know someone,” he had said haltingly in English. “Maybe he can help you.”

Beside bluffs of rock, the Euphrates River flirted in and out of view. I pictured my skeletal grandfather Stepan a century earlier, walking alongside it on bloodied feet for months, driven by armed guards who galloped beside his caravan of deportees.


Stepan walked along the Euphrates River with his caravan of deportees (Credit: Philip C. Griffin/Getty Images)

Of course, I was thinking about him. He was the one who had brought me there. Or, rather, his words had – since he had been dead for more than three decades. My family had recently discovered his notebooks, detailing his survival of the Armenian genocide, which Turkey still denies occurred. Now I was retracing his nearly 1,000-mile odyssey across present-day Turkey and Syria, once all part of the Ottoman Empire. I had lifted my itinerary directly from his pages, and I was trying to reach a hill near the Iraq border, where his caravan of thousands had been massacred. I opened up his account and re-read his words from 1916:

I had become accustomed to hunger, having fasted three or four days a week, without a bit of food between my teeth. However, it was becoming impossible for me to endure.

My grandfather believed he had survived so that he could bear witness to this crime. Enormous darkness had transpired near this stretch where we now travelled, but there was also light, and that was partly why I had come. An Arab leader named Sheikh Hammud al-Aekleh and his Muslim family had taken in my Christian grandfather after he had escaped from his doomed convoy, a chance encounter that changed my family’s fate.




Stepan believed he’d survived to bear witness to the Armenian genocide in Turkey (Credit: The Miskjian family)

We turned towards Raqqa, a once-medieval town that sits on the Euphrates River’s left bank. Levon explained that the man who lived there was a Bedouin sheikh. “He’s very powerful,” he said.

Men in swim trunks stood knee-deep in the Euphrates, and groups of boys splashed around on this hot day, the shore tangled with lush foliage. We crossed a bridge, and I reflected that in my grandfather’s time there hadn’t been an overpass here, only armed guards and boats ferrying the lucky ones across. Raqqa had been one of the few safe places along the road.

On the wide streets, our driver steered our sedan towards the sheikh’s home. Finally, Levon pointed to our destination. “Over there,” he said. On the corner stood a large two-storey home with an ornate front gate. “The sheikh commands around 20,000 Bedouins,” he added. I felt even more nervous and smoothed my wrinkled shirt. What if the sheikh is offended by my request? What if he refuses to help me?

A servant answered the door and ushered us into a formal meeting area, where I waited on plush floor cushions. At last, Sheikh Fayez al-Ghubein entered the room, his face long and serious. I fidgeted, not knowing the custom, then rose in deference.

An uncomfortable silence filled the space between us. “Why have you come?” he asked finally, in Arabic.


MacKeen traced her grandfather’s 1,000-mile odyssey using his notebooks as her guide (Credit: Dawn Anahid MacKeen)

With Levon translating, I explained what had happened to my grandfather, this story that I hadn’t fully learned until I was an adult. How those dying had begged him to tell the world what had happened, should he survive. How I had to see this terrain where he had marched and where so many of his friends had perished.

He nodded. “My family took in Armenians, around 20,” he said, and he explained how the stories had been handed down from one generation to the next. He invited us to his private quarters and a servant brought a large platter filled with small bowls of dates, orange marmalade, flatbread and cups of sweet tea.

“Where are you staying?” Sheikh al-Ghubein asked, and invited us to stay with him. As Levon chatted in Arabic with him, I grew anxious about the passing time. I hadn’t yet brought up why we had sought him out.

Enormous darkness had transpired, but there was also light

Finally I gathered my courage. “During the massacres, my grandfather was about to die, but he was saved by a sheikh in the area. The sheikh took him in when he was hungry and thirsty,” I said. Then I began to speed up my words, as if to spit them out. “I want to find his family and thank them. If there is any way you could help me, I would be so grateful.”

Sheikh al-Ghubein studied my face and then asked the man’s name.

“Hammud al-Aekleh.”

He didn’t know of him. Of course, he didn’t: what were the chances? It was too difficult to reach through time, to this period from so long ago. Why had I even imagined that I could?

The moment lingered and then Sheikh al-Ghubein inquired if I knew the village’s location. I didn’t, until the previous evening, when I had studied every last detail of my grandfather’s escape from his caravan like a cartographer, mapping his every move: how he had dropped onto his hands and knees to sneak away from the guards, how he had been captured after making it to the Euphrates, how he had fled by squeezing into a crevice of a rock, then zigzagged in almost every direction. Finally, I had pinpointed the area, between two towns, which I shared now.



Stepan had fled by squeezing into a crevice of a rock, before zigzagging his way to Sheikh al-Aekleh’s town (Credit: Dawn Anahid MacKeen)

Sheikh al-Ghubein stood and dialled a phone number. I didn’t understand his brief conversation in Arabic, but intuited it when a tall man entered the house. With a mobile phone to one ear and a landline on the other, the newly arrived gentleman began canvassing the tribes of the region about the family of the sheikh whose name has been etched into my family’s history for generations.

Finally, he lowered one receiver and said, “There were two Hammud al-Aeklehs. Do you have any more information?”

“My grandfather said Hammud al-Aekleh was very powerful. His brother’s name was Ali. His son, too.”

The man continued in Arabic, then hung up. He turned to me. “This family did not have a brother named Ali.”

I was crestfallen; the other one probably wouldn’t, either. Maybe my grandfather didn’t write the name correctly, or the clan had moved elsewhere, many clans having been semi-nomadic during that time.

Sheikh al-Ghubein’s friend picked up his mobile to dial the second family. I watched his expression as he spoke quickly in Arabic. It remained steely, revealing no hint of the words exchanged. The conversation went on, his face unchanging. My heart sank.

After what seemed like an eternity, his eyes met mine, and he smiled. He had found them.




Stepan documented his journey across modern day Turkey and Syria in a notebook (Credit: Dawn Anahid MacKeen)

That evening, Sheikh al-Ghubein held a dinner in my honour. Pink, yellow, blue and green lanterns lit the bustling open-air restaurant on the banks of the Euphrates. The dark sky stretched above and the river coursed just beside us, infinite in the night. He had invited a local Armenian couple to join us as we gathered around a table, a dozen of us from different faiths and ethnicities, breaking flatbread together.

The feast spread across the long table: a tomato-cucumber salad, baba ganoush, hummus and tabouli. As the sheikh piled yet more food on my plate, I pantomimed that my stomach was full. “This is just the beginning!” he exclaimed. Out came more dishes stacked high with grilled kebabs of beef and chicken, along with kofta balls of ground beef.

Someone had seen him as human and not as a ‘dog’

Later that night, in the dimmed light of the sheikh’s daughter’s room, I took out my grandfather’s memoir and reviewed the moment he had first heard of Sheikh al-Aekleh’s ‘gentle’ and ‘influential’ nature, and decided to approach him. To conceal his Armenian identity, Stepan had worn local dress and changed his name to Mustafa. But the sheikh was not tricked, and knew my grandfather’s true ethnicity. Instead of turning him into the gendarmes, however, the sheikh did something else: He offered him refuge with his clan. The sheikh then made eye contact with his servants, who immediately dispersed. One returned with a wooden table and set it down in front of Stepan. The other carried over pekmez, a local grape syrup, and a large piece of wheat bread. Stepan recounted this change of circumstance in his journals:

I wondered how many people would sit with me at table to eat, and waited for them to come. There was nobody… And I said to myself, ‘What a miracle, my God!’ …I ate and ate and ate and could not finish it. In all the days of my deportation I had never eaten this well.

At last, my grandfather could breathe. Someone had seen him as human and not as a ‘dog’, as he had been called. Someone had wanted to help, not harm him.


Sheikh Hammud al-Aekleh changed Stepan's fate and that of his entire family (Credit: Dawn Anahid MacKeen)

I thought about that the next day as we left Raqqa. As we entered Sheikh al-Aekleh’s village, a crowd of 300 milled about, and I guessed that service must have just ended at the mosque nearby. But when I opened the car door, people began to surge towards me, the men smiling and the women extending their arms, soon hugging and kissing me on both cheeks.

One lady in her late 40s reached for my hand. She was Sheikh al-Aekleh’s granddaughter, I learned, and she led me into the house. There she and her daughters opened a cabinet brimming with colourful dresses and carefully selected a beautiful burgundy one, heavy with delicate beading. They slid it over me and wrapped a yellow scarf around my head. Then they ushered me into an adjacent rectangular room where the walls were lined with people leaning on armrests, with legs crossed. All eyes were on me.

“Salaam!” I said, using one of the few Arabic words I knew. After learning that everyone in the room – hundreds of people – were all descendants of Sheikh al-Aekleh, I told them why I had travelled there from my home in Los Angeles: how I had always wondered about the circumstances surrounding my grandfather’s survival, and then had finally understood more when I read about the sheikh. Still, I wanted to find out what had compelled that brave man to save my grandfather during a time when Ottoman propaganda had demonized all Armenians as dangerous. What had made him look past that, and their differences?

“It is the teaching of Islam to be generous,” explained one of Sheikh Hammud al-Aekleh’s grandsons.

It is the teaching of Islam to be generous

I read to them from my grandfather’s journals, revisiting that very moment when the sheikh had taken him in, warmed him by the fire and made him rest, despite my grandfather’s pleas to help work the land. Because of that fateful meeting, my grandfather’s life had transformed from fighting for each scrap to eat to becoming a trusted member of the sheikh’s family.

Gone were the days of watching his friends die in the camps, one by one. From that time on, discussion swirled around marriage, as local women would approach my grandfather singing – some even stealing his clothes while he swam in the river – to be returned in exchange for a kiss. The clan’s men would ask him to ghost-write love poems for them, as a real-life Cyrano de Bergerac.

Every so often as I spoke, Sheikh al-Aekleh’s family would interrupt me. Yes, they would say, they had heard that before, the stories had been passed down the generations.


Anahid MacKeen: "It [...] gave him back his dignity, and at last I could thank them" (Credit: Dawn Anahid MacKeen)

With this clan, my grandfather found his strength again. His time with the sheikh gifted him the next 58 years of his life, the chance to have a wife and children and the ability to live to write it all down. It also gave him back his dignity, and at last I could thank them. I paused, looking at all the smiling faces in the room, then read the two simple sentences he had written after first finding this wonderful family: My joy was limitless. Was there anyone happier than me?

Tears welled in my eyes. His sentiment reflected my own, nearly a century later, upon meeting them and encountering the kind Raqqa sheikh who had led me there.

Dawn Anahid MacKeen is the author of The Hundred-Year Walk: An Armenian Odyssey, which recounts her grandfather’s survival of genocide and her quest to tell his story. Based on a decade of research, the book was awarded best biography from the American Society of Journalists & Authors. Previously she was a staff writer at Salon, Newsday and SmartMoney. Her work has appeared in The New York Times Magazine, ELLE, The Sunday Times Magazine and elsewhere.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170616-the-sheik-that-saved-my-family

Beautiful and uplifting story.

Armenia was under Arab Islamic rule for almost 300 years and in pre-Islamic times Armenian Kingdoms had millennia old ties with ancient Arab and other Semitic kingdoms and civilizations etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_conquest_of_Armenia

Not only that one of the largest Armenian diasporas in the world are located in the Arab world. In particular Lebanon and Syria but not only.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_the_Middle_East

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/arabs-reached-armenians-1915-massacre-150424102949363.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...ns-arabs-turkey-genocide-150425052603372.html

Similarly Arabs and the Arab world have ancient and deep connections to other Caucasian peoples and countries.

Ever wondered why there are so many Armenians in the Arab world? How come they ended there roughly 100 years ago and why?




3 million + views?o_O



what are you talking about? you are the people who live in castles,have underground jails where women are prisoned for sheikhs and sheikhs marries 10 to 12 women.nobody is more shameful than sheikhs.what turkey did against israel? during gaza war,we treated wounded injured people and you on the other hand,dancing with trump.shameful people on earth stupid wahhabis.these wahhabis are the same people who took british help just to defeat ottoman empire and rule saudia.remember this land saudia doesn't belong to you stupid wahhabi.we will reclaim this land in near future.you can go and sell oil to america stupid sheikhs.
 
what are you talking about? you are the people who live in castles,have underground jails where women are prisoned for sheikhs and sheikhs marries 10 to 12 women.nobody is more shameful than sheikhs.what turkey did against israel? during gaza war,we treated wounded injured people and you on the other hand,dancing with trump.shameful people on earth stupid wahhabis.these wahhabis are the same people who took british help just to defeat ottoman empire and rule saudia.remember this land saudia doesn't belong to you stupid wahhabi.we will reclaim this land in near future.you can go and sell oil to america stupid sheikhs.

OK.



I want to make a gif that contains an Arabian sand cat the next time around. I think that they are a nice cat.

 
I dont know whats going on in Erdogans mind, if he thinks he stands a chance against KSA and GCC, then he is an idiot. Lets put nationalism aside and accept the fact that this entire region belongs to KSA and Iran. Turkey cant compete
 
I hope the delusionals in our country see how their so called Ummah looks like, i can only welcome such moves, it shows my delusional compatriots that their wish is leading nowhere. :)

I already did and it was nice. Sadly I did not get the chance to dance with Ariel Sharon and Shimon Perez like Erdogan did.
You think this was it already, way more is to come. :)

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