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Rafale to UAE: Dassault goes into high gear

By Par Alain Ruello | 23/07/2013 | 07:20


France is determined to sell 60 Rafale to the UAE. But to succeed, she must improve her offer in terms of industrial cooperation.

Although she failed to do so in the Sarkozy era, France is determined to sell 60 Rafale in the UAE, surfing on the trusted relationship refound between the two countries. Facing the Eurofighter led by BAE Systems and London, Dassault can argue better performance. Regarding the price, again, the match appeared to favor the tricolor aircraft as demonstrated its victory over its European rival in the Indian tender.

On the diplomatic front, the game is more balanced. Paris is an historical ally of the Gulf kingdom and concluded a defense agreement in 2007 with the establishment of a military base there. But London is not left out and is negotiating a major defense agreement with its former protectorate.

Last criterion that will decide between the two camps: industrial cooperation. In this area, the British seem to have taken a step ahead. "They offered a lot," one says in the French camp. When the Rafale was the sole candidate, the manufacturer and the DGA had put on the table the possibility of the two countries to share the cost of some Rafale's technical improvements. They will probably have to go further by associating local industry.


The take back of 60 Mirage 2000-9

In the end, Paris has a master card even if it must be handled carefully : the take-back of 60 Mirage 2000-9. At this point, Abu Dhabi has set the following rule, one explains to "Les Echos", those who will win the deal will be responsible for selling these aircrafts, half of them are nearly 30 year old. As this is a French weapon, Paris has a veto right on their re-export.

To satisfy this rule, BAE therefore needs accurate information - for example to assess the cost of the buy back - that Paris obviously refuses to provide for not favoring the Dassault rival. It is fair game. But what if Abu Dhabi finally choose the Eurofighter? will france block the Mirage resale and the deal and therefore break the trust patiently rewoven?

Meanwhile, the Americans did not remain inactive. They negotiate the sale of twenty F-16 to replace the out of service part of their 80 [F16 fleet] and the installation of Nato Link 16 throughout the fleet. It also seems that this should be accompanied by a large package of air-to-ground missiles. With the hope that, in the end, the Emirates replace these devices with F-35.


Les Echos














Qatar and Kuwait wait to follow UAE's lead over purchase of Rafale fighter jets from France

Agence France-Presse
Jan 10, 2012


PARIS //
Qatar and Kuwait are interested in buying French Rafale fighter jets but are waiting to see whether the United Arab Emirates will make a purchase first, France's defence minister said yesterday.

"They are in effect interested but they won't know for sure until the first one jumps in," said the minister, Gerard Longuet.

He said he hoped that the UAE, which is talks with France to buy 60 Rafales, would make a decision "within a time frame that will allow its two neighbours, which hope to be interoperable with the Emirates, to make decisions".

Industry experts have estimated that Kuwait needs 18 to 22 fighter jets and that Qatar needs 24.

After opening talks on the purchase in 2008, the UAE said in November that the offer for Rafales from France's Dassault Aviation was uncompetitive and opened up the tender to competition.

France has raised concerns over the future of the Rafale programme, which has struggled to find foreign buyers to support a project that has so far cost more than US$51 billion (Dh187bn).

Mr Longuet warned in December that production on the multi-role fighter could halt if it remains unable to sell any abroad.


The National.ae












UAE: “Nibras-Al Ain Aerospace Park”

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See also old links :

Strata's UAE aerospace plant gives big lift to Airbus


http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-d...ae-aerospace-plant-gives-big-lift-airbus.html



Pooling (GCC)...

KSA : Damocles targeting pod for Eurofighter Typhoon

http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-defence/229698-ksa-damocles-targeting-pod-eurofighter-typhoon.html


KSA : RSAF will acquire ‘AASM Hammer’ in place of the ‘Paveway IV’

http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-d...ill-acquire-aasm-hammer-place-paveway-iv.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-d...l-acquire-aasm-hammer-place-paveway-iv-2.html


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@Bubblegum Crisis
I understand that some Mirage-2000s are a bit old, at the same time the UAE had received some of them less than a decade ago, how come they are going to replace them when they are relatively brand-new? :/ I don't understand..

Also, would you loving seeing the DR being operated by our navy? :azn:
 
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I think those Mirages are going to Libya. They would have been the best replacement for our MS Squadron for the Navy.
 
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Would love to get those mirages in the hands of the EAF to complement our 2K's.
 
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I think those Mirages are going to Libya. They would have been the best replacement for our MS Squadron for the Navy.

I wouldn't be surprised at all, considering the fact that the UAE has strong ties with Pakistan, not to mention Pakistan's natural ally. ;)

Would love to get those mirages in the hands of the EAF to complement our 2K's.

I hardly think so Sir. The candidate will definitely be Pakistan.

Again another thread about the Eurocanards :blah: :sick:

Me wantie F-22s, how about selling it to one of your bestie allies, KSA? :D
 
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You told me before, I hear you. But Libya won't need the entire UAE's Mirages fleet though..

Libya has the cash to buy them all and not to forget that they don't have anything called an air force.
 
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I hardly think so Sir. The candidate will definitely be Pakistan.

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Let's hope Pakistan will manage to get its hands on some of those.

Its unlikely homie, PN has next to zero budget for procurement. Our best case scenario is two squadrons of JF-17 Block II for the replacement of PN's Mirage V fleet.
 
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Israel won't feel comfortable bro :/
France doesn't have the same relationship with Israel as America or the Germans and so it doesn't have the same policy towards arming Egypt. They offered us the Rafale a while back and we refused it due to budget restraints.

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