U.S. Sources Claim China Could Have Over 150 J-20 Stealth Fighters in Service as Production Expands — Is It Possible?

[casual]

Someone working in the defense industry hint this year China have placed massive orders to defense industry and order lots stuff, so I will expect there will be alot of J-20s produced this year, around 50 or so if CAC's four J-20 pipeline were ready.

So totally there should be around 100 J-20s by the end of this year.

I think the military is still holding out for ws-15 before the large batches.

 

[Trango Towers]

They have satellite photos. They can count.

Loool yet got their *** whooped by taliban with an ak47 and an rpg

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China will probably build a single engine J-20 derivative. It doesn’t seem economically viable that they would build an all J-20 5th Gen fleet. The current numbers maybe under 100, but they are probably building at least 20 a year. A cheaper single engine land based fighter, that can be procured in bulk will probably be fielded once the WS-15 is ready, IMHO.

A single engined fighter is almost always shorter ranged and has lower TWR than dual engine fighter. Why would we allow enemies to approach within single engine fighter range?

The whole point of a dual engined stealth fighter is to engage the enemy at long range to remove the possibility of them launching cruise missiles against the homeland, or to invade the homeland of the enemy and destroy their warfighting potential once and for all. Single engined fighters are essentially defense only. China doesn't have enemies nearby that justify significant investment into defensive fighters. The point is to go on the offense and take the fight to the enemy.

 

[Brainsucker]

Please see my reply ... this is pure BS!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447073705201373187

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447076886664859649

I'm curious on what other project that Chengdu has right now? They still build J-10C? If they focus only on J-20, then it is possible that China has more J-20 today.

 

[Deino]

I'm curious on what other project that Chengdu has right now? They still build J-10C? If they focus only on J-20, then it is possible that China has more J-20 today.

Clearly this one!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1454729400470081539

 

[925boy]

China built 500 J-10 in 10 years. J-20 is bigger but with modern manufacturing it can be built quicker. 150 over a period of 4 years is not out of the question.

Exactly! I'm confused as to why many people are confused that CHina has that many J-20s. what is 100 for China to produce?? lol....people shouldnt judge China based on how they judge their incompetent, slow selves, aka projecting. If China can crank out advanced, large, expensive warships, why cant China crank out 100 J-20s??

 

[Globenim]

westernmedia.org seems to be one of these Indian Srivastava group style fake websites that steal names of real media agencies.

They claim they are based in Dallas, Texas, USA. But link to Western Media Group profiles.
Western Media Group however is a company based in Vancouver, Canada and their domain is westernmediagroup.ca

The article published here is a copy from militarywatchmagazine.com, thats why all the links in the article point to militarywatchmagazine.com.

U.S. Sources Claim China Could Have Over 150 J-20 Stealth Fighters in Service as Production Expands — Is It Possible?

Since entry into service in March 2017, when it became the first non-U.S. fifth generation fighter operational anywhere in the world, China’s J-20 heavyweight stealth

militarywatchmagazine.com

It matters since these fake sites often inject propaganda into unrelated articles and artificially boost propaganda to distort reality. Linking to them promotes and legitimizes their identity fraud scheme.

 

[Vapnope]

1 - Hype up adversary's no. & Capabilities
2 - Get desired funding
...

3 - Repeat

 

[Pandora]

China will most likely produce it in blocks of 50-60 aircrafts. After introduction of J20 B my guess is tgere will be more focus on B variant now. I would be watching J20C with WS15 engiene and several new techs.

 

[Globenim]

Edit: Missed out Deino's post on the first page, since I blocked twitter, which already point this out as well.

Another dig at this report

westernmedia.org a fake website, just copied the article from militarywatchmagazine.com (for those that missed the post above)

U.S. Sources Claim China Could Have Over 150 J-20 Stealth Fighters in Service as Production Expands — Is It Possible?

Since entry into service in March 2017, when it became the first non-U.S. fifth generation fighter operational anywhere in the world, China’s J-20 heavyweight stealth

militarywatchmagazine.com

militarywatchmagazine.com parrots the number of 150 J-20 from airforcemag.com

China Likely Stepping Up Stealth Fighter Production | Air & Space Forces Magazine

Production of the J-20, touted by China as a stealth fighter, is set to increase, with one US lawmaker saying the inventory could soon challenge the US.

www.airforcemag.com

airforcemag.com parrots the number of 150 J-20 from Americas state run media outlets most favourite "state run Chinese media outlet", yes you guessed it right, Minnie Chan from South China Morning Post

China deploys stealth fighter jets to units monitoring Taiwan Strait

New brigade of upgraded J-20s, deployed in ceremony forming part of Communist Party’s centenary, sends a signal to South Korea and Japan, observer says.

www.scmp.com

Minnie Chan from South China Morning Post for the number of 150 J-20 once again cites an anonymous military insider and I guess everyone here knows who Minnie Chans most frequently cited currently Japan based military insider, who has absolutely no insider insights on Chinas military, is.

So in summary:
This "news" is 4 months old and the "U.S. Sources claim" is actually in the U.S. sources labeled as a "Chinese state run media" claim, which is actually a Hong Kong based troll, which is actually citing an alleged "insider" source that is actually most likely a Japan based troll.

Welcome to Journalism with American characteristics.

Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on current events based on facts and supported with proof or evidence.

 

[Brainsucker]

Exactly! I'm confused as to why many people are confused that CHina has that many J-20s. what is 100 for China to produce?? lol....people shouldnt judge China based on how they judge their incompetent, slow selves, aka projecting. If China can crank out advanced, large, expensive warships, why cant China crank out 100 J-20s??

I'm also curious. Because if China has stop on building more J-10, then Chengdu has nothing to do beside building J-20 right now. And seeing that Chengdu could build 50 J-10 in a year, what prevent them to make 25 J-20 per year? And if they can only make 15 J-20 a year, then why they need to stop procure J-10?

Clearly this one!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1454729400470081539

But that is their research and development department, not their production facility activity. What does Chengdu build beside J-10? If they stop building J-10, then what do they do beside building J-20? And if they could procure 50 J-10 in a year, what prevent them to make at least 25 J-20 a year?

Also Deino, I'm curious about Shenyang's focus right now. Do they still make J-11? Or they focus only on J-15 and J-16? And what other projects that they produce right now?

 

[Zarvan]

The estimate lies some where in middle. It think the number is not 150 but it would be close to 100, like really close.

 

[FuturePAF]

Exactly! I'm confused as to why many people are confused that CHina has that many J-20s. what is 100 for China to produce?? lol....people shouldnt judge China based on how they judge their incompetent, slow selves, aka projecting. If China can crank out advanced, large, expensive warships, why cant China crank out 100 J-20s??

Fair point, we shouldn’t be surprised considering what else China has been able to do? Btw, how many J-20s do you think China is producing a year?

 

[Brainsucker]

Fair point, we shouldn’t be surprised considering what else China has been able to do? Btw, how many J-20s do you think China is producing a year?

Well, J-20 definitely harder to produce than J-10. But, if CAC (Chengdu) could produce 50 J-10 in a year, then let's guess their capability to produce J-20 in a year.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The constraint on production was mainly Russia's slow poke rate of AL-31 delivery. With the WS-10 engines in service, J-20 production is at least 4 times what it was when it was using AL-31.