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BANGKOK – Thailand is a prime tourist destination, a favorite for pleasure seekers around the world. But that’s not why nearly 10,000 Pakistanis have ended up in Bangkok, most of them living an underground existence.

Pakistan is one of the most dangerous nations for religious minorities. Thailand is one of the few countries that allow Pakistanis easy entry as tourists. With the United Nations certifying refugees from the lengthy conflict in neighboring Myanmar, persecuted Pakistanis started arriving four years ago seeking resettlement in the West.

Alas, the U.N. offered false hope. The typical refugee waits years just for an interview, the first step to receiving official refugee status. So far, not one has moved on to America or anywhere else.

In the meantime humanitarian groups such as Christian Freedom International (CFI) are helping the refugees survive. CFI President Jim Jacobson argues that the only feasible solution is for the United States to admit people who are not only in desperate need, but “who share Americans’ values and are America’s friends in the fight against terrorism.”

Although Pakistan is nominally a U.S. ally, in practice no government other than Saudi Arabia has done more to promote Islamic radicalism and terrorism. Such malicious behavior is merely an outward expression of inner failure.

Pakistan is a very illiberal society. A weak civilian administration faces a dominant military. Islamic radicals battle government forces and assassinate liberal Muslims. Sectarian murderers are publicly supported and applauded.

Religious minorities face persecution and death. Christians are disproportionately targeted by draconian blasphemy laws, often as retaliation for commercial and personal disputes.

Churches are destroyed; mobs threaten Christians who refuse to convert. At Easter, the Pakistan Taliban bombed a children’s park frequented by Christians, killing more than 70 people of all faiths.

In its most recent report on religious liberty, the U.S. Commission in International Religious Freedom concluded: “the Pakistani government continued to perpetrate and tolerate systematic, ongoing and egregious religious freedom violations.” The commission pointed to discriminatory legislation, violence by nonstate actors, forced conversions, government failure to protect likely victims and a “deep-rooted climate of impunity.”

This is the environment from which Christians currently stuck in Bangkok fled. Sectarian threats and attacks drove them from their homes. In one case a man married a Christian convert from Islam. Her family threatened to kill him — not idle talk in Pakistan — causing the two to seek asylum in Thailand.

In another case, a minister was approached by Islamic radicals and told to stop preaching or they would murder him and his family. The Christians escaped to Bangkok.

Pakistani asylum seekers endure a tenuous existence. On arrival the U.N. typically gives them an appointment set a year or two in the future; the date often is delayed as the appointment approaches.

Once their visa expires, the asylum hopefuls are unable to work legally and subject to arrest whenever they leave home. The Thai authorities stake out neighborhoods and raid apartments where refugees are believed to live.

Some officials appear as interested in collecting bribes as enforcing the law. Hundreds of unlucky asylum seekers have ended up in detention.

The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees is supposed to make a designation within 90 days, but some Pakistani Christians end up waiting several years. Being formally recognized by the U.N. brings some financial assistance, but not legal status. Thailand never ratified the 1951 U.N. Refugee Convention, so even U.N.-designees are still considered to be in the country illegally.

CFI does its best to help refugees, providing food and sundries. But the group can only assist a limited number of families. Although the refugee flow ebbed after word returned to Pakistan that there was no easy exit from Thailand, those already arrived are essentially trapped. They have sold their possessions and only persecution and violence would await them back in Pakistan. But they see no path forward either.

Jacobson acknowledges that fear of refugees permeates Western politics. However, he notes that people persecuted for their faith are among the best candidates to receive asylum. Jacobson points out that it would be hard to find a more pro-Western group of Christians fleeing persecution.

All major political parties have reason to support such an effort. Taking in oppressed Christian refugees should appeal across the partisan spectrum.

The U.S. has learned at great cost that it can’t remake foreign societies. However, it and its friends could help save these few desperate people seeking to escape the same destructive sectarian forces that have targeted so many other people


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...y/u-s-take-pakistani-christians/#.V8siP8vhXqA
 
The author Doug Bandow is a fundamentalist Christian American. Google the guy to get an idea how he hates and blames Muslims for all the ills in the world.

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The author Doug Bandow is a fundamentalist Christian American. Google the guy to get an idea how he hates and blames Muslims for all the ills in the world.

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so are you saying these things are not happening.
 
Most of this to obtain recidency in western countries, alot of people in world make up case to get recidency in a rich country.

Millions of christains live in Pakistan peacefully, They have churches, christian missionary schools, Sunday free, qutoas ......

If 1-2-3 incidence happends, it also happends to muslims in Pakistan.

In Lahore last year 2 christians burnt a muslim alive. They wouldnt have done that if they were afraid of been pursucated.

By the way, pakistani media is way better then media in most of the countries i know. Pakistani media never do bulling/bashing against minorities as media in western countries against muslims. In western nations everyday you read atleast 6 pages article negative about Islam and things are presented in non muslim way, but told that is Islam.

In Pakistan you dont have freehand to raid minority areas and minorities. You have to answer for your actions.
 
so are you saying these things are not happening.

It is happening on a mega scale in India. Hindu nationalists accuse Christians of converting low caste Hindus. Hence they attack churches. This hypocritical American will never mention it. His favorite subject will always be Pakistan. That is to be expected because that is all an American is taught on Fox News. Hate Mexicans and Muslims.
 
BANGKOK – Thailand is a prime tourist destination, a favorite for pleasure seekers around the world. But that’s not why nearly 10,000 Pakistanis have ended up in Bangkok, most of them living an underground existence.

Pakistan is one of the most dangerous nations for religious minorities. Thailand is one of the few countries that allow Pakistanis easy entry as tourists. With the United Nations certifying refugees from the lengthy conflict in neighboring Myanmar, persecuted Pakistanis started arriving four years ago seeking resettlement in the West.

Alas, the U.N. offered false hope. The typical refugee waits years just for an interview, the first step to receiving official refugee status. So far, not one has moved on to America or anywhere else.

In the meantime humanitarian groups such as Christian Freedom International (CFI) are helping the refugees survive. CFI President Jim Jacobson argues that the only feasible solution is for the United States to admit people who are not only in desperate need, but “who share Americans’ values and are America’s friends in the fight against terrorism.”

Although Pakistan is nominally a U.S. ally, in practice no government other than Saudi Arabia has done more to promote Islamic radicalism and terrorism. Such malicious behavior is merely an outward expression of inner failure.

Pakistan is a very illiberal society. A weak civilian administration faces a dominant military. Islamic radicals battle government forces and assassinate liberal Muslims. Sectarian murderers are publicly supported and applauded.

Religious minorities face persecution and death. Christians are disproportionately targeted by draconian blasphemy laws, often as retaliation for commercial and personal disputes.

Churches are destroyed; mobs threaten Christians who refuse to convert. At Easter, the Pakistan Taliban bombed a children’s park frequented by Christians, killing more than 70 people of all faiths.

In its most recent report on religious liberty, the U.S. Commission in International Religious Freedom concluded: “the Pakistani government continued to perpetrate and tolerate systematic, ongoing and egregious religious freedom violations.” The commission pointed to discriminatory legislation, violence by nonstate actors, forced conversions, government failure to protect likely victims and a “deep-rooted climate of impunity.”

This is the environment from which Christians currently stuck in Bangkok fled. Sectarian threats and attacks drove them from their homes. In one case a man married a Christian convert from Islam. Her family threatened to kill him — not idle talk in Pakistan — causing the two to seek asylum in Thailand.

In another case, a minister was approached by Islamic radicals and told to stop preaching or they would murder him and his family. The Christians escaped to Bangkok.

Pakistani asylum seekers endure a tenuous existence. On arrival the U.N. typically gives them an appointment set a year or two in the future; the date often is delayed as the appointment approaches.

Once their visa expires, the asylum hopefuls are unable to work legally and subject to arrest whenever they leave home. The Thai authorities stake out neighborhoods and raid apartments where refugees are believed to live.

Some officials appear as interested in collecting bribes as enforcing the law. Hundreds of unlucky asylum seekers have ended up in detention.

The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees is supposed to make a designation within 90 days, but some Pakistani Christians end up waiting several years. Being formally recognized by the U.N. brings some financial assistance, but not legal status. Thailand never ratified the 1951 U.N. Refugee Convention, so even U.N.-designees are still considered to be in the country illegally.

CFI does its best to help refugees, providing food and sundries. But the group can only assist a limited number of families. Although the refugee flow ebbed after word returned to Pakistan that there was no easy exit from Thailand, those already arrived are essentially trapped. They have sold their possessions and only persecution and violence would await them back in Pakistan. But they see no path forward either.

Jacobson acknowledges that fear of refugees permeates Western politics. However, he notes that people persecuted for their faith are among the best candidates to receive asylum. Jacobson points out that it would be hard to find a more pro-Western group of Christians fleeing persecution.

All major political parties have reason to support such an effort. Taking in oppressed Christian refugees should appeal across the partisan spectrum.

The U.S. has learned at great cost that it can’t remake foreign societies. However, it and its friends could help save these few desperate people seeking to escape the same destructive sectarian forces that have targeted so many other people


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...y/u-s-take-pakistani-christians/#.V8siP8vhXqA
Why can't India take them? You seem to be quite safe. Gujarat province will welcome them. Specifically, Christian women will be so much safer in India, and an wear skirts if they like.
 
I dont think fox news is aware of the fact that Pakistani Christians are not White :lol:

If you invite them you will further solidify the browning of America :D

Want to know how a Pakistani Christian looks like?
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Commander Tanweer Sahid- a great exponent of sea power, venerates the tradition and future of Pakistan Navy
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Posted by Madeeha Bakhsh On September 03, 2016 0 Comment
Commander (OPS) Tanweer Shahid who hails from Pakistan’s Christian Community cannot imagine a career more rewarding than naval commission. Emerging from Multan, he joined Pakistan Navy on July 1, 1996. While further construing his enthusiasm he unfolded, “Any man who may be asked in this epoch what he did to make his life meaningful, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: “I served in Pakistan Navy.”
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In 1996, he was commissioned as Sub Lieutenant in Pakistan Navy; in 2000 he advanced to the rank of lieutenant. With the passage of years he continued serving the country and in 2000 rose to the rank of Lieutenant Commander in 2007.

Also Read: Purpose of my life is not to happy but to be useful says young Pakistani Christian Lt. Sehrish Walter

In 2014, he was promoted to the rank of Commander and is currently assigned with the duties of Commander Offshore Squadron-22 and Commanding Officer PMSS NUSRAT (Patrol Corvette). His distingue career is decorated with illustrious endeavors assigned to him. His naval feats include serving as Senior Staff Officer to Cdr Jinnah Naval Base Ormara.

He has also discharged duties as Deputy Director (Operations & Plans) in PMSA, Officer In charge of the Mobile Coastal Radar. His various other exploits include serving as Navigating Officer PNS MOAWIN, EWO PNS BADR, Assistant Divisional Sea Training Officer (Pak), Junior Officers Training Officer, Executive Officer PNS JALALAT (Patrol Craft) and Executive Officer PMSS NUSRAT (Patrol Craft).
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Commander Tanweer’s academic capacity is voluminous – not to mention Masters in Administrative Sciences (HR) in 2010 from University of Karachi, Masters in War Studies (Maritime) in 2012 from National Defense University. He racked up a Masters in Def & Industrial Dynamics in year 2014 from University of Paris –II, France. BEMS (Post-graduation Higher Military Studies) in year 2014 – Ecole De Guerre (Joint Satff College), France.

Previously he heaped together faculties including Long “ND” (Navigational & Direction) in year 2005 from Pakistan Navy Maritime Training Complex, Pakistan. Advance EW (Electronic Warfare) in 2002 from Pakistan Navy Maritime Training Complex, Pakistan. Formerly, he successfully buttoned up Standard Tactical Course (STC) from Pakistan Navy Tactical School and Communication Skills from Pakistan Navy HR Development Center.
http://www.christiansinpakistan.com...es-the-tradition-and-future-of-pakistan-navy/

https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.p...29499414:54:0:1475305199:-2735573529563310495

Asia,s biggest cross
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Indian trolls are so under pressure because of Kashmir that they now are posting fox news propoganda :D
@django @The Sandman @EAK @Pakistani Exile @pak-marine @Moonlight @DESERT FIGHTER
 
Tanweer Shahid :sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:. name def sounds christian. you keep fooling Pakistani people

Christians were targeted and eliminated using the Islamic blasphemy law

http://www.dawn.com/news/1225694
http://www.dawn.com/news/1270136
http://www.dawn.com/news/1270522
http://www.dawn.com/news/1142386
http://www.dawn.com/news/1205118
http://www.dawn.com/news/1225169
http://www.dawn.com/news/1159801
125 Christian houses burnt over blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/791491/125-christian-houses-burnt-over-blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/1249310


I can post more if you request....
 
Tanweer Shahid :sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:. name def sounds christian. you keep fooling Pakistani people

Christians were targeted and eliminated using the Islamic blasphemy law

http://www.dawn.com/news/1225694
http://www.dawn.com/news/1270136
http://www.dawn.com/news/1270522
http://www.dawn.com/news/1142386
http://www.dawn.com/news/1205118
http://www.dawn.com/news/1225169
http://www.dawn.com/news/1159801
125 Christian houses burnt over blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/791491/125-christian-houses-burnt-over-blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/1249310


I can post more if you request....
Christians having Muslim names in Pakistan is quite common, there is nothing unusual about this, however you should be more concerns about your shit hole aka India where Christians are targeted every now n then. Christians in Pakistan are as patriotic as any one else.
 
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