U.S. military wants India to counterbalance China’s rise as a sea power

[maximuswarrior]

India needs to play this game very carefully, we need to use American insecurity for maximum gain without antagonizing China too much.
This is the real balance that India must perfect.

Can't have it both ways, man. You are going to please Uncle Sam and do exactly as they say. There are no free lunches with Uncle Sam. There is no way round it and you know it.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Can't have it both ways, man. You are going to please Uncle Sam and do exactly as they say. There are no free lunches with Uncle Sam. There is no way round it and you know it.

Thanks mate for the free advice... there will be no free lunches with Dragon either...

 

[terranMarine]

India needs to play this game very carefully, we need to use American insecurity for maximum gain without antagonizing China too much.
This is the real balance that India must perfect.

Are you sure you can use Uncle Sam? Don't tell me you can use her as your pawn this is the US we are talking about. The US always uses others as pawns not vice versa. So if India is willing to let Uncle Sam's dick insert into her a*s well then you can bet you are sending China the signal you want to play the containment game. See what Aquino did and how did it work out for PH? Not good, it lost > $30 million for the tribunal case and received a worthless piece of verdict. My advice to India is better becareful what you wish for or you might become the next US doggy.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Thanks mate for the free advice... there will be no free lunches with Dragon either...

LOL Baba, the dragon doesn't back stab. We know how the Americans operate. You know it too.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

India might counter balance China, but first they need to learn to properly balance their naval ships

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I have no clue about ships. But, what I have observed is that the Indian folks always get the tires of their cars over the sidewalk while taking a right turn. Specially I see it while dropping my kids at school. Can it be a reason for this flip over? By the by is it quite easy to do such feats????

 

[BABA AGHORI]

LOL Baba, the dragon doesn't back stab. We know how the Americans operate.

Lol... no one can predict the future kaka g.. .. not even baba g..

 

[maximuswarrior]

Lol... no one can predict the future kaka g.. .. not even baba g..

Putar, we will see. We sleep well at night. We know how you are trying to do an act of balance LOL Won't work. Better to start pleasing Uncle Sam on a fulltime basis.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Can't have it both ways, man. You are going to please Uncle Sam and do exactly as they say. There are no free lunches with Uncle Sam. There is no way round it and you know it.

Under Uncle Trump forget about free lunch, you may lose it even if you have paid for it...

 

[terranMarine]

I have no clue about ships. But, what I have observed is that the Indian folks always get the tires of their cars over the sidewalk while taking a right turn. Specially I see it while dropping my kids at school. Can it be a reason for this flip over? By the by is it quite easy to do such feats????

Indians are yoga masters, they can do things beyond our imaginations. Just look at that ship, only India can do such feat. Don't ask the Chinese, Americans, Russians or other countries because even we don't know how to do such thing.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Putar, we will see. We sleep well at night. We know how you are trying to do an act of balance LOL Won't work. Better to start pleasing Uncle Sam on a fulltime basis.

I'm glad you sleep well.. When evil baniya has money in it's coffer he knows how run a show in the market... So we are happy running the show on our side..

Sleep well biraadar

 

[Dungeness]

Indians are yoga masters, they can do things beyond our imaginations. Just look at that ship, only India can do such feat. Don't ask the Chinese, Americans, Russians or other countries because even we don't know how to do such thing.

 

[gambit]

This is regarding post 17 page 2...

First, to the Indians.

You cannot dismiss what we observed of your ship and how you ran her. I know that story is yrs old and perhaps many changes made, but the larger points are always applicable. Sandals on the ship ? Unacceptable. In an emergency, a sailor with damaged feet can miss doing something vital that will save the ship.

On the seas, the ship is your only home and refuge. You have nowhere else to go. You must take care of her as if she is your own home, and in a way, she is for as long as you are at sea. Standardization and procedures are life savers at sea. Standardization and procedures increases the odds of everyone having near instinctive behaviors on their duties in times of combat and emergencies.

Now, to the Chinese.

You gloat, but think about how the North Vietnamese Army and the Viet Cong gave the US Army seriously hard time in Viet Nam. True, they lost every major engagements and usually due to inferior weapons and personal equipment, but they fought hard nevertheless. They never let the superiority of the Americans discouraged them from fighting, even though they knew the odds of winning were slim, and their dead far outnumbered the American dead.

But here we are talking about ship vs ship which is a totally different category of combat. Soldiers fight soldiers, but sailors do not fight other sailors. This is what make the navy and air force different from the army. The navy and air force are more heavily dependent on the hardware than the army, other than the armored units. You win the fight by knowing your vehicle better than the other guys know theirs. So if a bunch of sandal wearing Indian sailors just happened to man their ship better than your steel toed wearing Chinese sailors and got off a few good hits, you are shit-out-of-luck.

 

[Dungeness]

"So if a bunch of sandal wearing Indian sailors just happened to man their ship better than your steel toed wearing Chinese sailors and got off a few good hits, you are shit-out-of-luck".

Good points, but there is a very big IF here. Didn't you read the US Navy officer even doubted if they could ever fire their rounds? By the way, I have lot of respect for VC soldiers.

@gambit, so you think this US Navy officer was for real?

 

[gambit]

"So if a bunch of sandal wearing Indian sailors just happened to man their ship better than your steel toed wearing Chinese sailors and got off a few good hits, you are shit-out-of-luck".

Good points, but there is a very big IF here. Didn't you read the US Navy officer even doubted if they could ever fire their rounds?

Start a fight and find out.

@gambit, so you think this US Navy officer was for real?

Yes, I believe he was real. Am not Navy, but a lot of things he commented about how a ship should be manned cannot come from ignorance or guessing. When you have been in the service long enough, you pick up subtle unspoken/unwritten clues about a person who claimed to have served, even across branches of service. There is a balance that frauds always cross that we can detect. The Internet does not help as much as a fraud think it would.

 

[Tiqiu]

Start a fight and find out.


Yes, I believe he was real. Am not Navy, but a lot of things he commented about how a ship should be manned cannot come from ignorance or guessing. When you have been in the service long enough, you pick up subtle unspoken/unwritten clues about a person who claimed to have served, even across branches of service. There is a balance that frauds always cross that we can detect. The Internet does not help as much as a fraud think it would.

Many years ago I asked the same question to an US sailor face-to-face, he pretty much said the same.

But I love Yoga very much. Its wonderful.