U.S. defense firms begin adjusting Turkish F-35 exit

[OldTwilight]

You think that an older RQ-170 variant in your hands is VLO?

If you do not understand the difference between an F-35 and an RQ-170 then God help you...

I can claim that RQ_170 is more stealth than F35 .... just look at the shape and the size of the plane and you will understand ...

RQ-170 was about being just stealth observer not something to engage in combat or carry weapon or refuel in skies ...

 

[LeGenD]

I can claim that RQ_170 is more stealth than F35 .... just look at the shape and the size of the plane ....

Your claim is utterly worthless. Now anything worthwhile to share?

 

[OldTwilight]

Your claim is utterly worthless. Now anything worthwhile to share?

why your claim is valid but mine is invalid !?

 

[Bengal71]

The full version failed to pick on Tomahawk cruise missiles when they were only 35 KM away from its position FYI; extremely small rcs + EW + terrain-hugging flight approach = win.

S-400's radar coverage drastically shrink for VLO aircraft (rcs factor). Radar coverage mentioned on the brochure is valid for 3m^2 rcs - standard reference.

And how do you know it failed to pick up the tomahawks? Maybe they detected but there was no reason for them to shoot down the missiles.

 

[OldTwilight]

And how do you know it failed to pick up the tomahawks? Maybe they detected but there was no reason for them to shoot down the missiles.

Russia is in Syria to just protect his own interset and in reality , they really like to be the only player in there ... so while they are in Syria , they are hand shaking with KSA and are in bed with Israel ...
so , they won't use their system to repel any attack which is targeting Iran or pro-Iran force part of Syrian Army ..

 

[Bengal71]

Russia is in Syria to just protect his own interset and in reality , they really like to be the only player in there ... so while they are in Syria , they are hand shaking with KSA and are in bed with Israel ...
so , they won't use their system to repel any attack which is targeting Iran or pro-Iran force part of Syrian Army ..

Exactly! They are their for their interest, if they wanted to would make Syrian airspace totally sealed.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No they can't, Russia can't even detect the F-35s.

Oh so you think an F-35 can sneak over to Kremlin and bomb Putin to death? Doubt it.

 

[Beny Karachun]

It would be foolish to assume S-400 cannot target F-35s.

Anyway, who said, it's only the F-35s that will be targeted by Turkey?

We already flew F-35s above Syria and Russia wasn't able to detect the F-35s,

Oh so you think an F-35 can sneak over to Kremlin and bomb Putin to death? Doubt it.

If it will fly high enough and evade visual contact, I believe it can.

 

[olcayto]

Japan military says F-35 fighter jet disappears from radar



(Reuters) - Japan's Air Self-Defence Force said on Tuesday that an F-35 fighter jet disappeared from radar as it was flying over the Pacific Ocean.

The jet was flying some 135 km (84 miles) east of northern Japan at about 7:27 p.m. (1027 GMT) when it dropped off radar, the military said.

(Reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka; editing by Darren Schuettler)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1RL1FJ

 

[Pakistani Aircraft]

We already flew F-35s above Syria and Russia wasn't able to detect the F-35s,

How do you whether F-35s are to be targeted by Russian S-400 in Syria?

 

[Mithridates]

Look who is talking - a Russian clown.

1. Russian jets including Su-34 are not violating Israeli airspace. Russia should give it a try and see what happens.

2. Israeli jets are violating Syrian airspace to strike at Iranian targets from time-to-time, and Russian-origin defenses are clearly failing to do their job.

3. Mostly Iranian idiots believe that multi-billion dollar VLO platforms are gimmicks, and Russia have reliable counters for them. Nevermind budgetary and industrial constraints in the case of Russia...

flying wings by their nature have smaller RCS. rq-170 had smaller RCS compared to f-35.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/stealth-aircraft-rcs.htm

 

[LeGenD]

flying wings by their nature have smaller RCS. rq-170 had smaller RCS compared to f-35.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/stealth-aircraft-rcs.htm

You do not understand your own sources.

1. What is the rcs of an RQ-170 class drone? Kindly let me know.

2. True rcs figures of numerous combat aircraft are not public knowledge. Rcs figure for each bird also vary in relation to angle of approach and what type of instrument is trying to assess is.

3. F-35 is very very close to F-22 in the matters of VLO. Any comparison putting it behind F-117 is utterly misplaced.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

I don’t suppose Russia give permission for such a modification but If Turkey promise to replace all data-link and main search & tracking radars of S400 with national solutions and make them compatible with original S-400 missiles, US may change this stupid claims to let our F35 fly to Turkey. Turkey has already been developing all needed infrastructure to develop national long range air and missile defense system caller Siper. Integration of Siper subsystems into S-400 may solve the problem but Russia would never approach to do such a modification. The deal done with Russia doesn’t contain such a remark as well.

What option does TR have in regards to cancel or amend the deal of S-400? It is also being reported that TR may also enter into jointly develop the S-500.

With F-35's blocked what other options TrAF considering to replace F-4's?

 

[OldTwilight]

You do not understand your own sources.

1. What is the rcs of an RQ-170 class drone? Kindly let me know.

2. True rcs figures of numerous combat aircraft are not public knowledge. Rcs figure for each bird also vary in relation to angle of approach and what type of instrument is trying to assess is.

3. F-35 is very very close to F-22 in the matters of VLO. Any comparison putting it behind F-117 is utterly misplaced.


It is increasingly apparent who is mentally handicapped here. See above.

Is this your internet persona or something? Talk to people like this in public and somebody will push your teeth in. I would.

well , if you don't know RCS of RQ-170 , then how you claims that F-35 has smaller RCS compare to RQ-170 !?

 

[cabatli_53]

What option does TR have in regards to cancel or amend the deal of S-400? It is also being reported that TR may also enter into jointly develop the S-500.

With F-35's blocked what other options TrAF considering to replace F-4's?

I believe foreign minister implies Su-57 as stealth alternative of F-35.