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In the past 20 years, the United States has spent trillions of dollars to create and deploy the world's best military technology. It also has enacted laws and regulations aimed at keeping that technology away from potential adversaries such as Iran, North Korea and the nation that poses perhaps the most significant long-term threat to U.S. military supremacy, China.

China's efforts to obtain U.S. technology have tracked its accelerated defense buildup. The Chinese military budget - second only to America's - has soared to close to $200 billion.

President Xi Jinping is championing a renaissance aimed at China's asserting its dominance in the region and beyond. In recent weeks, Beijing has declared control over air space in the contested East China Sea and launched China's first rover mission to the moon.

IMMEDIATE THREAT

As China rises to challenge the United States as a power in the Pacific, American officials say Beijing is penetrating the U.S. defense industry in ways that not only compromise weapons systems but also enable it to secure some of the best and most dangerous technology. A classified Pentagon advisory-board report this year, for instance, asserted that Chinese hackers had gained access to plans for two dozen U.S. weapons systems, according to the Washington Post.

But the smuggling of technology such as radiation-hardened microchips out of America may present a more immediate challenge to the U.S. military, Reuters has found. If China hacks into a sensitive blueprint, years might pass before a weapon can be manufactured. Ready-made components and weapons systems can be - and are - used immediately.

Beijing says its efforts to modernize its military are above-board. "China has mainly relied on itself for research and development and manufacturing," the Chinese defense ministry said in a statement to Reuters. "China always complies with relevant laws and cooperation agreements and protects intellectual property rights."

How often the Chinese succeed at acquiring U.S.-made weaponry or components is unclear. U.S. government officials say they don't know, in part because the problem is too widespread and difficult to track. By its very definition, black market smuggling is hard to monitor and quantify. Quite often, sensitive U.S. technology is legally shipped to friendly nations and then immediately and illegally reshipped to China.

China also presents a special challenge: It is both the largest destination for legally exported American-made goods outside North America and the most or second-most frequent destination for smuggled U.S. technology. A 2010 classified Pentagon assessment showed a spike in legal shipments to China of "dual-use" technology - products that have civilian and military purposes, a person involved in the study said.

The technology products the Chinese military seeks tend to be miniaturized, and thus aren't easily identifiable to U.S. border agents - unlike drugs, for example. And trafficking in these goods isn't technically illegal until someone tries to export them.

"When you think about how many legitimate transactions go to a place like China, it makes it very difficult to track," said Craig Healy, a senior Homeland Security official who directs the U.S. export enforcement center.

Officially published U.S. estimates of how frequently American arms technology gets smuggled are incomplete. By one Pentagon calculation, suspicious queries to U.S. defense manufacturers by entities linked to China increased 88 percent from 2011 to 2012. The government won't disclose the number of cases that underlie that percentage.

U.S. defense and intelligence officials said that although they closely monitor the Chinese buildup, they believe China remains at least a decade behind America. "They still have a long way to go," said one senior U.S. defense official.

China Military Technology Trafficking From US - Business Insider
 
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they believe China remains at least a decade behind America

Who cares what they believe. Fact is, China has a rover on the Moon, America does not. :woot:
 
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Good. That means China need to increase military budget.
 
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The US has rovers on Mars....and has sent humans to the moon and back.

Mars is not interesting. It's too far away and you can't even see it at night. The moon is a lot closer and visible at night and sometimes even during the day. A manned mission to the moon can't even last a single day. A rover mission can last for decades, doesn't endanger astronauts, and costs a lot less, and can do everything a manned mission can do. :-)
 
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Mars is not interesting. It's too far away and you can't even see it at night. The moon is a lot closer and visible at night and sometimes even during the day. A manned mission to the moon can't even last a single day. A rover mission can last for decades, doesn't endanger astronauts, and costs a lot less, and can do everything a manned mission can do. :-)

A rover can do more than what a manned mission can do, the point and the difficult part is to bring it back,as you said moon is near ,and a command sent to rover in mars takes around 14 mins to reach mars,so you can think how difficult it is to operate a rover in mars.
 
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America lags well behind China in deep sea sub technology. China has Jiaolong. America does not have a deep sea sub.

America lags well behind China in electric high speed train technology. China has been operating CRH380A since 2010. America still doesn't have trains like that.

America lags well behind China in coal gasification AKA clean coal development. Clean coal turns coal into gas and produces a lot of pro plant CO2 in the process.

World’s Largest Coal Gasification Plant Comes Online in China (Energy Global) - americanfuelscoalition.com - American Fuels Coalition Web Site


America lags behind China in supercomputer. Tianhe-2 is the world's fastest supercomputer.
 
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America lags well behind China in deep sea sub technology. China has Jiaolong. America does not have a deep sea sub.

America lags well behind China in electric high speed train technology. China has been operating CRH380A since 2010. America still doesn't have trains like that.

America lags well behind China in coal gasification AKA clean coal development. Clean coal turns coal into gas and produces a lot of pro plant CO2 in the process.

World’s Largest Coal Gasification Plant Comes Online in China (Energy Global) - americanfuelscoalition.com - American Fuels Coalition Web Site


America lags behind China in supercomputer. Tianhe-2 is the world's fastest supercomputer.
And you forgot panda,china has pandas and US dsnt.
 
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You're new here. So as a courtesy, and for your info, this person (or bot) is the biggest China cheerleader on PDF. Even some of the Chinese hyper-nationalists here get a little uncomfortable with his over the top bootlicking. In addition, He hates America, so he will always automatically put anything American or done by Americans down. Attempting to engage it with logic and common sense is a waste of time.

How is that possible???

No I aam actually asking a serious question here, how is that possible?
 
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Just one dacade! I think china still lag behind America more than 20 years, seriously!

Beside spending more money on Military R&D, also should improve the R&D environment, that's very important, and imporve the education system, what we need to do is much more than imagine of most of Chinese, if you go to lab and factory, check the test equipment and manufacturing equipment, and the component, you will kown, China still much lag behind the advanced countries, catching up with USA completely, do you think how long need? I guess, about 50 years.
 
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I think in some degree all the world behind US army at least 20 years, look at Nimitz aircraft carrier,Trident missiles, Defense budget................
 
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You're new here. So as a courtesy, and for your info, this person (or bot) is the biggest China cheerleader on PDF. Even some of the Chinese hyper-nationalists here get a little uncomfortable with his over the top bootlicking. In addition, He hates America, so he will always automatically put anything American or done by Americans down. Attempting to engage it with logic and common sense is a waste of time.

Ah OK, thank you for the heads up. That makes me feel a little better knowing that those are most likely professional posts!
 
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Who cares how far behind the Americans we are, we whooped their arse in the Korean War. Greatest military upset in human history :coffee:
 
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The US has rovers on Mars....and has sent humans to the moon and back.

Nations who lived in History will become History and we should look forward and secure our children's future. It applies to all nations
 
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