U.N. to issue Sri Lanka war crimes report demanding justice

[Gibbs]

India is not in favor of tamils, they are more in favor of relations with Srilanka.. Tamils have no influence to do anything with the UN inquiry or any international probing, Let some independent source assess the ground reality and let the world know what happened actually and who is the liar.

when the son's of osama's and mullah omar's deserves to live, why not the 13year old son of prabhakaran shouldn't live?. what's the necessity to shot him dead? paranoia at its height.

Clean slate.. Destroy all remnants of evil.. Simple

Thousands of other poor Tamil Children were send to the front as cannon fodder strapped with explosives by that kids sick bloodthirsty father.. Nobody cried for them.. Least those in TN.. A whole generation of young Tamils.. Sri Lankans.. So whats so special about one fat kid of a terrorist ?

 

[Godman]

You cannot understand the circumstances MR and RW is making these statements. Can you?

MR’s promise of a new constitution was rather a reactive election promise to what RW made. It has no substance while RW has been for changing the constitution from day 1.


What is american’s pain about our constitution? Why do they make statements asking to change it and RW doing exactly what Americans want? And Mangala updating the them about constitutional change? They have no part in that.

LOL You pretty much say that US wants this and US wants that.
But from Mangala statement it is very clear that he only mentioned the new constitution is only a minor thing in his statement and is ensured to make sure that tamils are not marginalized in Sri Lankan politics

It is only few like you and especially the ones who live in utopia dreaming a perfect democracy who calls to replace the constitution. There is no demand in public to change the constitution. It is a manufactured demand. Let’s agree for the sake of argument that constitution needs to be changed.

And it is not a mess like you think.

It is very forward looking one that did solve many issues the country faced.

I don't dream of a"Utopia" I dream of a efficient country without conflict and free of Racial and religious issues, with a rule of law
And this system made many problems worse ,it should have been changed after the war ended

You know there is an American saying ‘Don’t fix it if it ain’t broken’. That is same for our constitution.

The point here is what has Americans got to do about our constitution which should be solely decided by the people of this country!

LOL Its the people of the country that decide it and shouting it will not change it.
Mangala mentioned about the constitutional reforms as one of the many steps that are being taken to stop of Racial conflict and you start shouting about america

If you cannot understand what he said then I cannot make you understand. There is no reason to talk about the constitution on a topic about war crimes. Americans are trying to get it changed by showing the report.

Tell me why RW is not questioning the report on very valid grounds? Why accept it without verification?

Just saying that "Americans are trying to get it changed by showing the report." repeatedly does not make it true.
Actually I understand what you say and you are saying that US wants to change our constitution by showing us the report.

On a session about war crimes when a report is introduced it IS about war crimes. To say to prevent from happening again we have to see what really happened and if war crimes are there it is a totally military thing and completely different from constitution.

It is not about war crimes, its larger than that.
The racial conflict didn't start because of the war but because Nationalism ,hate and marginalization of Tamils which resulted in Tamil nationalism becoming stronger.
The military conflict came later.

The UNHRC report is a investgation about Human rights abuses in Sri Lanka and saying how to deal with it and how to make sure that a Racial conflict will not happen again

He explains everything that the government is taking to stop that from repeating and you call it a "Military thing"
He clearly says everything and I read it and even quoted him here but you still repeat the same thing all over again.

You had nothing to say regarding US ambassoder.

Still searching for him

@Godman,
So UN is calling it a crime report and SLG is saying it is not...who is correct and who is wrong.. why is not SLG putting up a defence and verifying it?

I think this proves that you are talking without knowing what you are even talking.
UN is not calling a crime report and neither does GoSL, its only a report on investigations on Human right abuses in the war not a Criminal Investigation

 

[Arya Desa]

lanka is going to pay for kidnapping Sita.

 

[Godman]

@Saradiel The US has nothing to do with our constitution and the people of SL will take care of that.
You are the one who is dragging the US for no reason

 

[samv]

Tell your bravado to someone who admires your courage for killing a 13 year old out of fear.

Sell your crocodile tears for Prabhakaran's son to the parents of all the children killed by Prabhakaran.

 

[Gibbs]

LOL is that what this fellow could come up with?

SL did take care of the IDPs in the best way possible while safeguarding the security of the country. Actually SL acted in the best possible way

@Gibbs,
Thanks for Gomin's post. But I am not happy with MangalaS. Why should he talks about bringing a new constitution when talking about war crimes charges? what is the need for it?

I think US is using the report to blackmail RW and change the constitution.

And i knew from the beginning this report would not have anything substantial. Actually no mention about genocide and ethnic cleansing which most here jump up with. That is simply because SL is not guilty of them.

And also I agree with the point samv makes . that this war crime saga started as soon as SL won the war and solely because SL did not listen to US

Bro it's either the US bogey man or the Chinese bogey man or the Indian bogey man or the Brits .. When will the people come out of this mental insecurity trap that the politicians have ingrained on them for their own survival and tackle the issues the country face head on, Without trying to hide behind a bogey man every time ? Sure the US has self interests in every damn thing they put their hands in to.. Thats not a secret, And it's not some kind of a revelation that a online troll you quote have exposed ? We all know that

But that does not mean the US has this grand project to divide the country and some special motive for it, No they don't.. You need to understand how things work in Washington, How policies of the state department differs to that of Defense establishments, How the congress work on lobbies.. How some of these policies are done in back officers of the state department that even the secretory does not see them until the release.. Just croaking like frogs in the well about how the whole world is having a conspiracy is against the country wont change these things

In foreign policy goals change according to circumstances, Thats what world powers do, In their interests, In the region the target of the US is India, SL comes way down the priority list.. At the moment their policy viz a viz India is diplomacy and trade, In order to keep a powerful China in check by proxy.. They would not do anything to topple that apple cart

Now we can chest beat about our sovereignty and integrity but the fact remains as it stands the US will not do anything to the island if India disagrees to that.. This i reiterate as it stands, Things can change dramatically in few years as Middle East will show you

The US backed the govt to finish off the LTTE, All the other rhetoric said is all BS, By lemon puff heroes, Real time intelligence reports were provided, Tightened the foreign funding, Pressured the governments in South East Asia on weapons smuggling done to the LTTE, Got Human Rights watch to release a damning report on extortion by LTTE remnants in Canada and Europe which led to hundreds of arrests of LTTE operatives,Many went underground.. A turning point imo which a lot of analysts ignore for whatever reason.. If the US really wanted the govt to stop the final assault they could have done it with a blink of an eye.. While giving MR all the credit for finishing it off, He couldn't have done it without foreign help.. So dont be gullible enough to make him some kind of a Superman than stood against the whole world

I dont like Mangala either, But as Gomin Dayasiri said he did the best out of a worse situation, A situation that could have been avoided if not for a megalomaniac that ran the country for his personal ego post 2010.. I see more credence in that one article that what 100 pseudo patriots spew in others

 

[Sam.]

Did the stone shiv ling tell you that. Or the monkey god.

@waz @Slav Defence

stop following an Indian religion you lankan. We Indians aren't even taught that you exist. You're "country" is a few kms away from India yet we don't even care for your existence. When I first met a lankan I thought he was a somali.

Go away you fool ,nobody care what you have to say.

 

[Gibbs]

I find this article match my thought s word for word on the UNHRC report and the actions that need to be taken by the govt.. Note the highlighted parts are what i feel as a sovereign nation should never agree to.. It's a good read.. @Godman @NGV-H @Azizam @HeinzG @Saradiel

The UN Human Rights Report On Sri Lanka | indi.ca

 

[Godman]

I find this article match my thought s word for word on the UNHRC report and the actions that need to be taken by the govt.. Note the highlighted parts are what i feel as a sovereign nation should never agree to.. It's a good read.. @Godman @NGV-H @Azizam @HeinzG @Saradiel

The UN Human Rights Report On Sri Lanka | indi.ca

I fully agree with the article they should avoid the bold recommendations .what Mangala promised to do is more than enough and they should alos implement the LLRC recomendations.
As the article says this government has the potential to do a lot for the good of the country

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I found the governments reply to ohchr in their website
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/OISL/ResponseSriLanka15092015.pdf

The government has clearly said that they acknowledge this as a Human rights investigation and not a Criminal investigation and assured non-recurrence
most of the problems are now nearly over Its now time to implement what we promised

 

[Gibbs]

I fully agree with the article they should avoid the bold recommendations .what Mangala promised to do is more than enough and they should alos implement the LLRC recomendations.
As the article says this government has the potential to do a lot for the good of the country

.
I found the governments reply to ohchr in their website
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/OISL/ResponseSriLanka15092015.pdf

The government has clearly said that they acknowledge this as a Human rights investigation and not a Criminal investigation and assured non-recurrence
most of the problems are now nearly over Its now time to implement what we promised

Well the UNHRC clearly states it's a Human Rights investigation NOT a Criminal Investigation.. Under No I Introduction/ No.4 paragraph

UNHRC Advanced Unedited Report on Sri Lanka 2015

 

[coffee_cup]

I really don't understand this. Sri Lanka had a long bloody war against Indian sponsored terrorism for decades and finally got rid of that maniac.

And now UN has nothing better to do but to stand on the side of terrorists?

It is as if tomorrow they will start publishing "war crime" reports against Pakistan for going against Al-Qaeda and Indian sponsored TTP.

But the REAL war crimes committed by the West will NEVER EVER be investigated. Be it Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, and dozens other wars that the West has forced upon weak countries within the last few decades (not to mention evil empire like Britain, French etc etc).

Might is right...

 

[samv]

I really don't understand this. Sri Lanka had a long bloody war against Indian sponsored terrorism for decades and finally got rid of that maniac.

And now UN has nothing better to do but to stand on the side of terrorists?

It is as if tomorrow they will start publishing "war crime" reports against Pakistan for going against Al-Qaeda and Indian sponsored TTP.

But the REAL war crimes committed by the West will NEVER EVER be investigated. Be it Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, and dozens other wars that the West has forced upon weak countries within the last few decades (not to mention evil empire like Britain, French etc etc).

Might is right...

 

[Godman]

I really don't understand this. Sri Lanka had a long bloody war against Indian sponsored terrorism for decades and finally got rid of that maniac.

And now UN has nothing better to do but to stand on the side of terrorists?

It is as if tomorrow they will start publishing "war crime" reports against Pakistan for going against Al-Qaeda and Indian sponsored TTP.

But the REAL war crimes committed by the West will NEVER EVER be investigated. Be it Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, and dozens other wars that the West has forced upon weak countries within the last few decades (not to mention evil empire like Britain, French etc etc).

Might is right...

I think you need to read the report and look at SL's history.


It was some Tamil groups in the tamil diaspora that pushed the UN, the Tamil diaspora is large and some of its groups have some influence through companies and Human rights groups.
I am sure they are disappointed with the UN result that there is no genocide in SL

 

[HeinzG]

Lol.. What is left to damage in Sri Lanka's integrity ?.. Maybe you can ask MR's foreign policy adviser Sajin Vaas what happened to the countries integrity ? He had the free hand to spend billions upon billions on Washington lobby groups to pacify the US govt right ? What happened to that tea stall owner cousin of MR given the Ambassador post to Washington ?

What is left? Everything. Sri Lanka is still a unitary state with all of it's land areas under gov. control.

What had happened with Sajin Vaas or any other person is irrelevant to the UNHCR report.

UNHCR report didn't materialist because of them. The sole reason in we wining the war.

Ofcause burning flags and jumping jigs did'nt bring this upon the country, Brain dead pseudo patriots supporting the ego of a tin pot dictator did.. Pitty the pseudo patriots swallowed the BS hood, link and sinker, Shouldn't Weerawansa go on another lemon puff hunger strike ? Yeah i guess no big deal, Because at the end of the day it's not the interest of the nation that matters but the high drama of your political masters

I want to clarify few points here.

1) Do you believe that UNHRC resolution against SL could've been averted if we didn't fight the war?

2) What is your opinion on the people who once were anti-war and pro-cease fire agreement lobbyist, now representing the UNHRC report.

3) What is your opinion on the 4th eelam war as a whole.

4) According to you what is the "Tamil Problem" and what is the solution to fix it.

I hope you would answer these questions.

Well the UNHRC clearly states it's a Human Rights investigation NOT a Criminal Investigation.. Under No I Introduction/ No.4 paragraph

UNHRC Advanced Unedited Report on Sri Lanka 2015

Can anyone prosecute SL leaders making UNHRC report as a basis. If not what is the purpose of this report?

@Saradiel The US has nothing to do with our constitution and the people of SL will take care of that.
You are the one who is dragging the US for no reason

You don't think CIA or US double agent can write our constitution. You don't think this possibility is valid practically?

If a Sri Lankan prepared the our constitution it will be all ok. US interests won't be met at any scenario?

 

[Godman]

You don't think CIA or US double agent can write our constitution. You don't think this possibility is valid practically?

If a Sri Lankan prepared the our constitution it will be all ok. US interests won't be met at any scenario?

LOL
A committee made up of professionals has already been appointed to create the new constitution.