type 052C VS. type 45

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what do you think when PLA 052C VS. type 45 daring class........

 

[A.Rahman]

just ..WOW...

can you please post specs? like unit cost? displacement?

Thanks

 

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Type 45
Propulsion - Rolls-Royce/Northrop Grumman WR-21 Advanced gas turbine with ICR
Displacement - 7,350 tonnes
Length - 152.4 m
Beam - 21.2
Draught - 5 m
Speed - 27 knots
Armament:
8 x AGM-84 Harpoon
48 VLS Aster missiles
2 x Phalanx CIWS
1 x 114 mm Mk 8 Mod. 1 gun
2 x 30 mm guns
1 x Lynx HMA 8 helicopter

Type 052C
Propulsion - 2 Ukraine DN80 gas-turbines and 2 MTU 12V 1163TB83 diesels
Displacement - 7,000 tonnes
Length - 153 m
Beam - 16.5 m
Draft - 6 m
Speed - 30 knots (56 km/h)
Armament:
8x YJ-62
48 VLS HHQ-9 SAM
1 x 100 mm gun
2 x 30 mm Type 730 CIWS
4 x 16 barrel Multiple rocket launcher
1 x Kamov Ka-28 ASW helicopter

 

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they all only have 48 air-defense missiles.... hahahaha

 

[Officer of Engineers]

A PLAAF regiment is only 24 planes.

 

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so... wats your point?

 

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[Officer of Engineers]

so... wats your point?

It means that it's adequate considering the threat they're facing.

 

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then y the hill Burke class have so many of them?

VS

 

[MOO]

The 52C has a better offensive punch with more powerful long range anti-ship cruise missiles to attack the Type 45 at a safer distance.

 

[A.Rahman]

A PLAAF regiment is only 24 planes.

so they can take out 2 regiments?

 

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and 052c has 4 x 18 tubes MRL....... (unkown purpose....)

 

[Officer of Engineers]

then y the hill Burke class have so many of them?

Different mission profile. That class was desgined to repelled an attack of 100s of Badgers and Backfires.

so they can take out 2 regiments?

It can hold off an entire division/wing. Until that ship is reduced, that entire approach is denied.

 

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anyway bak to the topic.... which ship you think is better and why.......

i choose 052C ddg because VLS cold launch (less problems and short reaction time) and it also has more powerful anti-ship missiles........ btw i also love its AEGIS like combat system.....

 

[Akasa]

LET US COMPARE:
- 052C CARRIES UAVs. TYPE 45 DOESN'T.
- 052C CARRIES ANTI-SUBMARINE ROCKETS. THE TYPE 45 DOESN'T.
- 052C HAS ROCKET DECOYS. TYPE 45 DOESN'T.
- TYPE 45 DOESN'T HAVE ANY ANTI-SHIP CAPABILITIES (EXCEPT FOR ITS SINGLE MEDIUM-CALIBER GUN)
- 052C CAN FIRE HN-2 LONG-RANGE NUCLEAR CRUISE MISSILES (1800 KM RANGE WITH NUCLEAR WARHEADS). TYPE 45 CAN'T FIRE ANY MISSILES OTHER THAN SAMs.
- 052C CAN FIRE C-805 ANTI-SHIP/LACM MISSILE (AMONG THE BEST IN THE WORLD WITH 500+ KM RANGE). TYPE 45 CAN'T FIRE ANY MISSILES OTHER THAN SAMs.
- 052C CAN FIRE C-602 ANTI-SHIP/LACM MISSILE (AMONG THE WORLD'S BEST ANTI-SHIP AND CRUISE MISSILES WITH 300 KM RANGE). TYPE 45 CAN'T FIRE ANY MISSILES OTHER THAN SAMs.
- 052C CAN CARRY 4 X 18-BARREL MULTIPLE ROCKET LAUNCHER (MRL) SYSTEMS. TYPE 45 DOESN'T.
- 052C HAS AIR DEFENCE COMPARABLE TO AEGIS. (READ BELOW COMMENT)
- CHINESE HHQ-9 and HQ-19/S-400 ARE THE 2 WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED SAMs. THE EUROPEAN ASTER IS NO MATCH FOR ANY OF THEM.
- 052C CAN FIRE TORPEDOES. TYPE 45 CAN'T.
- 052C CAN TRAVEL AT 30+ KNOTS. TYPE 45 CAN ONLY TRAVEL AT 27.
- ALL CHINESE DESTROYERS (INCLUDING 052C) HAS LONGER RANGE
- 052C CAN CARRY MORE CREW
- TYPE 45 ISN'T DUE TO ENTER FULL SERVICE UNTIL 2010. BY THEN, CHINA WILL HAVE BUILT NEWER TYPES OF DESTROYERS ALREADY.
- MUCH MUCH MORE...

AND, THE TYPE 052C ISN'T EVEN CHINA'S FRONT-LINE DESTROYER.

2 NEW VERSIONS (CALLED TYPE 052D AND TYPE 051D) HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT