Two sisters kill father for refusing marriage proposal

[khail007]

So very lower than average coverage of crime committed and condemnation.
If otherwise, social media/media/civil society/human rights most will become mad on the issue.
Women in Pakistan not so innocent or helpless as posed in media. Feminism soon become curse for the society. Recently a professor committed suicide in Lahore due to 'harassment' case against him by a female student which was proven fake after investigation. May the soul of professor haunt that girl for rest of her abnormal life.

 

[Safriz]

The evil witches should rot in prison for the rest of their lives and enjoy some lesbian jail love

 

[LeGenD]

Perks of Feminist women empowerment.

Continue to tolerate this nonsense and your very lives will be at stake once you draw the line.

 

[Trango Towers]

Father was just trying to protect his daughter from becoming someone's second wife. Good father. Stupid daughter.

We dont know the real reason. Tragedy.
In pakistan a story is never as straight as it appears

 

[Menace2Society]

Perks of Feminist women empowerment.

Continue to tolerate this nonsense and your very lives will be at stake once you draw the line.

woman hating fool. What you going to do? Beat them into submission?

Stare at them in public up and down then beat them in private? No wonder the whole world thinks you are a bunch of savages.

 

[LeGenD]

woman hating fool. What you going to do? Beat them into submission?

Stare at them in public up and down then beat them in private? No wonder the whole world thinks you are a bunch of savages.

I am not a woman hating fool. My viewpoint have philosophical underpinnings; I just happen to see and understand how Feminism is damaging societies worldwide.

Empowerment of women should not be at the expense of men. Being selfish and immoral are not virtues but EVIL (applicable to all genders). Feminism is leading women astray under the banner of women empowerment; this ideology inculcate selfishness and immorality in women in subtle ways.

I see three wrongs in a 'single' case here.

1. The girl was having an affair with a married man and wanted to marry him.
2. The father tried to stop his girl from wrongdoing but lost his life in the process.
3. Both girls are complicit in murder.

Empowered women feeling really motivated these days. Anybody who dare to stand in their way, is to be cut down...

You will see in time.

 

[B.K.N]

Perks of Feminist women empowerment.

This murder has nothing to do with feminism two daughters killed their father in anger itni si baat hai
Fathers also kill their daughters sons kill father brother kills brother

 

[Menace2Society]

I am not a woman hating fool. My viewpoint have philosophical underpinnings; I just happen to see and understand how Feminism is damaging societies worldwide.

Empowerment of women should not be at the expense of men. Being selfish and immoral are not virtues but EVIL (applicable to all genders). Feminism is leading women astray under the banner of women empowerment; this ideology inculcate selfishness and immorality in women in subtle ways.

I see three wrongs in a 'single' case here.

1. The girl was having an affair with a married man and wanted to marry him.
2. The father tried to stop his girl from wrongdoing but lost his life in the process.
3. Both girls are complicit in murder.

Empowered women feeling really motivated these days. Anybody who dare to stand in their way, is to be cut down...

You will see in time.

More men have killed women than women have killed men.

You protect your women, not beat them into obiedience. We are not saudis.

 

[LeGenD]

This murder has nothing to do with feminism two daughters killed their father in anger itni si baat hai
Fathers also kill their daughters sons kill father brother kills brother

Looking at murders in isolation, solve nothing. Societal reforms are necessary.

Feminism; Watta Satta; Karo Kari; Relations outside wedlock - all wrong. Revisit to 'values' is increasingly important.

More men have killed women than women have killed men.

You protect your women, not beat them into obiedience. We are not saudis.

This isn't a contest of statistics. See above.

Men are supposed to protect women, not bitches.

Although, state is the new husband of women and they may not need protection of 'men' - many can manage without men today. Equal rights = Shared responsibilities.

 

[Menace2Society]

Looking at murders in isolation, solve nothing. Societal reforms are necessary.

Feminism; Watta Satta; Karo Kari; Relations outside wedlock - all wrong. Revisit to 'values' is increasingly important.


This isn't a contest of statistics. See above.

Men are supposed to protect women, not bitches.

Although, state is the new husband of women and they may not need protection of 'men' - many can manage without men today. Equal rights = Shared responsibilities.

You're telling me this but everyday I am experiencing equality between gender and race. Need to make sure school is mixed gender , sex education is taught. Socialised kids always mix better and don't go crazy like this example.

I can already see new generation of educated Pakistani kids are a lot better than the old generation. Just have to wait for them die out before we see progress. Women in the workforce is key to economic prosperity, empower them. These TLP and JUI supporters are a curse with their ideology, when woman walks past and they stare at them up and down like an object. They don't know what to do with them because of madrassah boy only upbringing. So when they marry them they attack them because they are weak and read their books which justify their behaviour. Girl grows up dependant on another abusive man. This cycle needs to stop.

 

[LeGenD]

You're telling me this but everyday I am experiencing equality between gender and race. Need to make sure school is mixed gender , sex education is taught. Socialised kids always mix better and don't go crazy like this example.

I can already see new generation of educated Pakistani kids are a lot better than the old generation. Just have to wait for them die out before we see progress. Women in the workforce is key to economic prosperity, empower them. These TLP and JUI supporters are a curse with their ideology, when woman walks past and they stare at them up and down like an object.

I see two extremes actually.

On one end, there are TLP and JUI-F types.

On the other end, the supposedly enlightened men are no longer questioning women. In fact, these men are complicit in spreading immorality.

In the very street where I live, there is a house... I will wait and see. If these clowns do not straighten their ways, I will take action.

Co-education have both pros and cons.
Men and Women receiving education separately, is not an issue at all, and both turn out just fine. In fact, fights over women and threats of harassment lessen to large extent. I have seen it all.

This come down to what kind of society WE are aspiring for. Why it cannot be as per instructions in the Holy Quran and hadith?

 

[Menace2Society]

I see two extremes actually.

On one end, there are TLP and JUI-F types.

On the other end, the supposedly enlightened men are no longer questioning women. In fact, these men are complicit in spreading immorality.

In the very street where I live, there is a house... I will wait and see. If these clowns do not straighten their ways, I will take action.

Co-education have both pros and cons.
Men and Women receiving education separately, is not an issue at all, and both turn out just fine. In fact, fights over women and threats of harassment lessen to large extent. I have seen it all.

This come down to what kind of society WE are aspiring for. Why it cannot be as per instructions in the Holy Quran and hadith?

boys and girls fully socialized with Pakistani modesty values is enough. I agree the purist western approach might not suit but a fusion without the obnoxious sexualisation in India model will suit.

Your Quran and Hadith is good for spiritual development but a 7th century system which has been attempted multiple times and failed is not fit for purpose. Taliban,Iran,Saudis,Ottomans all tried and failed. Its okay to adjust and evolve. Being static gets you nowhere.

 

[LeGenD]

boys and girls fully socialized with Pakistani modesty values is enough. I agree the purist western approach might not suit but a fusion without the obnoxious sexualisation in India model will suit.

Your Quran and Hadith is good for spiritual development but a 7th century system which has been attempted multiple times and failed is not fit for purpose. Taliban,Iran,Saudis,Ottomans all tried and failed. Its okay to adjust and evolve. Being static gets you nowhere.

Friend,

Boys and girls fully socialized with Pakistani modesty values is unrealistic. Checks and balances are necessary. I do not live in a cave.

Holy Quran is divine knowledge; not 7th century stuff. There are revelations in Holy Quran which are becoming clear in the present age due to significant advances in our understanding of how things are working, and there are revelations which cannot be understood even in the present age because some of the events have yet to materialize and/or our knowledge is limited.

Even a large number of hadith are proving true in the present age, and this make one wonder how Holy Prophet PBUH knew so much.

Divine revelations guided mankind to the right path (the path of civilization and modesty) but human behavior have continued to conform to either purity or immorality, or somewhere inbetween (hypocrisy) across ages. You think LGBTQ+ is evolution? No, this filth is recurrence of EVIL practices of past societies and Allah Almighty have punished these societies from time-to-time.

It is the responsibility of leadership to offer guidance to masses and create an environment that works best for all and not just for few. If wrong leaders are brought to power then they will ruin everything. For instance, the likes of PPP and PML(N) inculcated values of corruption in Pakistan through the years, and this is why this rot is not easy to curb at present. This isn't to say that PTI is perfect - far from it.

Thirst for greater power and 'interests' = ruins everything; selfishness and immorality are at the core of rot in any society. Do you think that only supposedly Muslim-majority states have failed from time to time? Many states failed due to corruption. Roman Empire also eventually failed due to corruption.

Remember this. Allah Almighty is not one-eyed and impure but opposite. Allah Almighty is the energy source which binds the entire universe together and make it function brilliantly. Mankind can never attain such brilliance but can strive for betterment (the path of civilization and modesty).

 

[dalvash]

We are not saudis.

Thank Allah for that!

 

[Menace2Society]

Friend,

Boys and girls fully socialized with Pakistani modesty values is unrealistic. Checks and balances are necessary. I do not live in a cave.

Holy Quran is divine knowledge; not 7th century stuff. There are revelations in Holy Quran which are becoming clear in the present age due to significant advances in our understanding of how things are working, and there are revelations which cannot be understood even in the present age because some of the events have yet to materialize and/or our knowledge is limited.

Even a large number of hadith are proving true in the present age, and this make one wonder how Holy Prophet PBUH knew so much.

Divine revelations guided mankind to the right path (the path of civilization and modesty) but human behavior have continued to conform to either purity or immorality, or somewhere inbetween (hypocrisy) across ages. You think LGBTQ+ is evolution? No, this filth is recurrence of EVIL practices of past societies and Allah Almighty have punished these societies from time-to-time.

It is the responsibility of leadership to offer guidance to masses and create an environment that works best for all and not just for few. If wrong leaders are brought to power then they will ruin everything. For instance, the likes of PPP and PML(N) inculcated values of corruption in Pakistan through the years, and this is why this rot is not easy to curb at present. This isn't to say that PTI is perfect - far from it.

Thirst for greater power and 'interests' = ruins everything; selfishness and immorality are at the core of rot in any society. Do you think that only supposedly Muslim-majority states have failed from time to time? Many states failed due to corruption. Roman Empire also eventually failed due to corruption.

Remember this. Allah Almighty is not one-eyed and impure but opposite. Allah Almighty is the energy source which binds the entire universe together and make it function brilliantly. Mankind can never attain such brilliance but can strive for betterment (the path of civilization and modesty).

Brother I agree with you about Allah/God being the source of all energy but that is not the point I'm making.

Back then fear was used as a leadership tool, it was thought to be best method to lead the masses.

We know now collaboration and shared responsibility with empowerment are the best methods.

This is why HR departments in companies exist, democracy exists.

So collaborate with your women rather than ruling them through fear, the world has outgrown this method. They will work with you in harmony and respect.

Collaboration begins in the school so thats where we need to make an impact. You bring them up as equals they will treat each other as equals in adulthood.

If you don't agree then feel free to but I am the first of many who has achieved full completely impartial gnosis within our community. The revolution has begun.