Two Pakistani men accused of raping domestic worker in South Africa

[PlanetWarrior]

• South Africa does not have the death penalty
• If these men are arrested, they are in deep shyte. The prison system in South Africa is worse than that of Pakistan and India combined
• Rape carries a no bail automatic incarceration. Being foreigners, their chances of getting bail is slim to zero
• Unfortunately the majority of rape victims in that country are the poor. After a few months, they are difficult to locate by the police and by the time of trial, the accused is let off on the basis that the victim cannot be located. If there is any justice served it is usually that the accused spends a considerable amount of time in prison awaiting trial and is usually raped on numerous times whilst in prison. Karma is a b!tch they say

 

[Diggy]

@Horus
This Sadistic bharti zebra is probably frustrated at BBC for making a documentary about rapes in india. Instead of responding to BBC He is venting his anger out in the wrong place. Ban him for good


They are accused right now so they have a right to trial,If they are convicted with evidence then they should be hung.

are you crazy or something ? this forum is flooded with rape threads on india , every 10 minutes that guy 78 and zarvan open a new thread on rape in india but indian members cant even open a thread on a genuine news.

and may i know why did you give me a -ve rating , did i use any foul language or abuse someone. I would be taking this matter to the authorities if you don't take it back , i don't think you are fit to be a think thank with such an insecure mentality. I said a fact and can give you evidence for that if you want a clarification from my side.

If i am banned for this then i am sorry rules & regulations thing on this forum would be a joke , please check the number of rape threads on india in the past 2 hours. Admit that the sole purpose of this forum being into existence is to humiliate india and not for any meaningful discussions and i will promise not to open any rape related threads on pakistan ever.

 

[Mugwop]

are you crazy or something ? this forum is flooded with rape threads on india , every 10 minutes that guy 78 and zarvan open a new thread on rape in india but indian members cant even open a thread on a genuine news.

and may i know why did you give me a -ve rating , did i use any foul language or abuse someone. I would be taking this matter to the authorities if you don't take it back , i don't think you are fit to be a think thank with such an insecure mentality. I said a fact and can give you evidence for that if you want a clarification from my side.

If i am banned for this then i am sorry rules & regulations thing on this forum would be a joke , please check the number of rape threads on india in the past 2 hours. Admit that the sole purpose of this forum being into existence is to humiliate india and not for any meaningful discussions and i will promise not to open any rape related threads on pakistan ever.

We have been trying to curb all rape threads here.Your fellow country man started it and then some members retaliated,Most of those members were not even Pakistani like 78.

I gave you a Negative rating because what happened in South africa has nothing to do with conviction rate in Pakistan.Our country has a lot of flaws but we don't tolerate rapists here. I am not insecure,"Boasting too much about yourself is a sign of insecurity" that is what 85 percent of indian members here do.I don't need clarifications.You want facts try a social experiment in Pakistan and see for yourself.

Biggest bullsh*t I heard!The purpose of this forum is not to humiliate india. If that was the case we wouldn't have indian TTA here.We wouldn't provide the counter perspective either.The people humiliating india are in BBC,BBC BBC.Vent your anger out on them.

 

[Diggy]

We have been trying to curb all rape threads here.Your fellow country man started it and then some members retaliated,Most of those members were not even Pakistani like 78.

bullshit , sorry but that is what it is , not a single troll thread opened by 78 or zarvan has been deleted by you guys and just as we speak mr 78 (he might not be a pakistani but forum toh apki hai na) has opened another rape thread on india (he has a record of opening rape threads every 5 mins) . I won't be going into this who started thing , lets talk about present.

I gave you a Negative rating because what happened in South africa has nothing to do with conviction rate in Pakistan.Our country has a lot of flaws but we don't tolerate rapists here. I am not insecure,"Boasting too much about yourself is a sign of insecurity" that is what 85 percent of indian members here do.I don't need clarifications.You want facts try a social experiment in Pakistan and see for yourself.

i was replying to a post and you can see in what context i was talking , Yeah thats a very nice thing say that we don't tolerate rapists just like you say we don't tolerate terrorists ? Facts speak otherwise

check this out
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
pathetic record to say the least , you rape laws are a big joke and i was talking in that context. To say we will kill rapists , hang them by their balls blah blah blah is pretty easy and sounds very nice to hear , but do you have such a system in place which will at-least convict the rapists . Do you know about the 4 witness law of yours and if the victim can't prove the charges she will be accused of adultery , this is the kind of crap your legal system is.

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Biggest bullsh*t I heard!The purpose of this forum is not to humiliate india. If that was the case we wouldn't have indian TTA here.We wouldn't provide the counter perspective either.The people humiliating india are in BBC,BBC BBC.Vent your anger out on them.

Having an indian TT or mod doesn't mean anything , the quality of the discussion or debating would indicate towards the level of neutrality.

BBC is an expert at humiliating other countries , pakistan is no exception

check this out

How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

BBC News - How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

 

[pursuit of happiness]

We have been trying to curb all rape threads here.Your fellow country man started it and then some members retaliated,Most of those members were not even Pakistani like 78.

I gave you a Negative rating because what happened in South africa has nothing to do with conviction rate in Pakistan.Our country has a lot of flaws but we don't tolerate rapists here. I am not insecure,"Boasting too much about yourself is a sign of insecurity" that is what 85 percent of indian members here do.I don't need clarifications.You want facts try a social experiment in Pakistan and see for yourself.

Biggest bullsh*t I heard!The purpose of this forum is not to humiliate india. If that was the case we wouldn't have indian TTA here.We wouldn't provide the counter perspective either.The people humiliating india are in BBC,BBC BBC.Vent your anger out on them.

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BBC is nothing to humilate india .. nor this forum .. but activites of some mmebr are inclined to that ..
we have issue now india is talking its evils on national daily.. that a huge leap forward.. as trasnformtion
need to first acceptance of problem .. in right context .. so this is our first step..
those who have no rapes in their countires .. those women are free from any gender discrimation may come forward and give advice to india ..
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its nothing about pak or india or xyz
its just being human .. when human become lesser thn animal..
some trying to bring that shit on face value to still to remain relevant as human

bullshit , sorry but that is what it is , not a single troll thread opened by 78 or zarvan has been deleted by you guys and just as we speak mr 78 (he might not be a pakistani but forum toh apki hai na) has opened another rape thread on india (he has a record of opening rape threads every 5 mins) . I won't be going into this who started thing , lets talk about present.



i was replying to a post and you can see in what context i was talking , Yeah thats a very nice thing say that we don't tolerate rapists just like you say we don't tolerate terrorists ? Facts speak otherwise

check this out
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
pathetic record to say the least , you rape laws are a big joke and i was talking in that context. To say we will kill rapists , hang them by their balls blah blah blah is pretty easy and sounds very nice to hear , but do you have such a system in place which will at-least convict the rapists . Do you know about the 4 witness law of yours and if the victim can't prove the charges she will be accused of adultery , this is the kind of crap your legal system is.

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Having an indian TT or mod doesn't mean anything , the quality of the discussion or debating would indicate towards the level of neutrality.

BBC is an expert at humiliating other countries , pakistan is no exception

check this out

How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

BBC News - How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

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dear
hope you point is show social evil and not india vs pak
let them call 100s thread .. we are on right path .. peoplea re talking on antional daily on sex education,, patriarchy,, social and gender discrimation .. which is huge huge thing for our society..
just leave that topic ..
focus on indian thread where we can use find methods of course correction and to have better world a bettter india

 

[Mugwop]

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BBC is nothing to humilate india .. nor this forum .. but activites of some mmebr are inclined to that ..
we have issue now india is talking its evils on national daily.. that a huge leap forward.. as trasnformtion
need to first acceptance of problem .. in right context .. so this is our first step..
those who have no rapes in their countires .. those women are free from any gender discrimation may come forward and give advice to india ..
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its nothing about pak or india or xyz
its just being human .. when human become lesser thn animal..
some trying to bring that shit on face value to still to remain relevant as human

Some women don't come forward because they are afraid of being stigmatized that is the part of the problem.Secondly their families try to solve everything outside of court rooms,under the radar.There are a lot of members here and the moderators have a difficult job curbing all the threads but they are neutral and doing a good job. As for BBC well all I can say is they have serious issues.

 

[Screambowl]

Oo Bhai Parosiyo Kanjaro keh Suhbat ka asar b tu hona hai !

bakwas band

 

[Mugwop]

bullshit , sorry but that is what it is , not a single troll thread opened by 78 or zarvan has been deleted by you guys and just as we speak mr 78 (he might not be a pakistani but forum toh apki hai na) has opened another rape thread on india (he has a record of opening rape threads every 5 mins) . I won't be going into this who started thing , lets talk about present.



i was replying to a post and you can see in what context i was talking , Yeah thats a very nice thing say that we don't tolerate rapists just like you say we don't tolerate terrorists ? Facts speak otherwise

check this out
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
pathetic record to say the least , you rape laws are a big joke and i was talking in that context. To say we will kill rapists , hang them by their balls blah blah blah is pretty easy and sounds very nice to hear , but do you have such a system in place which will at-least convict the rapists . Do you know about the 4 witness law of yours and if the victim can't prove the charges she will be accused of adultery , this is the kind of crap your legal system is.

.

Having an indian TT or mod doesn't mean anything , the quality of the discussion or debating would indicate towards the level of neutrality.

BBC is an expert at humiliating other countries , pakistan is no exception

check this out

How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

BBC News - How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

bullshit , sorry but that is what it is , not a single troll thread opened by 78 or zarvan has been deleted by you guys and just as we speak mr 78 (he might not be a pakistani but forum toh apki hai na) has opened another rape thread on india (he has a record of opening rape threads every 5 mins) . I won't be going into this who started thing , lets talk about present.



i was replying to a post and you can see in what context i was talking , Yeah thats a very nice thing say that we don't tolerate rapists just like you say we don't tolerate terrorists ? Facts speak otherwise

check this out
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators
103 rape cases: Zero conviction stuns senators - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
pathetic record to say the least , you rape laws are a big joke and i was talking in that context. To say we will kill rapists , hang them by their balls blah blah blah is pretty easy and sounds very nice to hear , but do you have such a system in place which will at-least convict the rapists . Do you know about the 4 witness law of yours and if the victim can't prove the charges she will be accused of adultery , this is the kind of crap your legal system is.

.

Having an indian TT or mod doesn't mean anything , the quality of the discussion or debating would indicate towards the level of neutrality.

BBC is an expert at humiliating other countries , pakistan is no exception

check this out

How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

BBC News - How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan

This forum has a a lot of members and the moderators have a difficult job.

Two rapists sentenced to death !
^This happened way before this zero conviction news came out.

I have stated before our legal system is not perfect but we are working on it,You are in no position to talk about it.
Women's Protection Bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We will respond to BBC if they try to malign us without making threads about india.

 

[Diggy]

This forum has a a lot of members and the moderators have a difficult job.

you know thats a bogus excuse you are giving , if there are 100 members on this forum only 10 are the trouble makers , you need to take care of the trouble makers who are easily identifiable. Every 10 minutes 78 opens a rape thread on india is it not visible to you and the mods here and he has been doing it for the last one week , have the mods gone on some long vacation or something. To the contrary you come here on a genuine thread i started , give a -ve rating to one of my post which had nothing wrong & want me banned because you felt an itch after you saw my flags is it , TTs like you and syedji seem to have a problem with indians and don't seem to need a reason to show your bias against us , how many negative ratings you have given to 78 or zarvan in the past one week ? Shall i show you some of their posts here and show you the quality ?

Two rapists sentenced to death !
^This happened way before this zero conviction news came out.

Incorrect , you should have checked the dates , this article chapa in 2013 and conviction hua in 2014.

hearing of the case started in 2012 and ended in 2014

I have stated before our legal system is not perfect but we are working on it,You are in no position to talk about it.
Women's Protection Bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL why not ? should i have law degree to talk about it.

and every legal system in this world has some flaws , but it depends how big those flaws are.

i was trying to indicate this to your countrymen who start blabbering whenever there is a rape in pakistan without even understanding how weak their rape laws are. I was reading about hudood ordinances and i will read the women protection bill and give you my opinion on it to you later.

We will respond to BBC if they try to malign us without making threads about india.

they have already maligned you and this thread has nothing to do with those spamming that your countrymen have been doing on that bbc documentary.

 

[Nawaba]

Oo Bhai Parosiyo Kanjaro keh Suhbat ka asar b tu hona hai !

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Some women don't come forward because they are afraid of being stigmatized that is the part of the problem.Secondly their families try to solve everything outside of court rooms,under the radar.There are a lot of members here and the moderators have a difficult job curbing all the threads but they are neutral and doing a good job. As for BBC well all I can say is they have serious issues.

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BBC
they have legacy. but they have serious question too whcihc need ans .. as you said ..
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Women .. society,, rape cases ..
true.. indian society.. still consider rape as end of day for girl but guy still come of and live normal life .. that sad story
but now things ar changing .. media ,, socety taking on radar .. for their own benefit but its on prime time
many here from top brass of society to bottom have view
like
why girl went our in night ..
why girl wear jean
why girl had male frined in night measn she is ..
what SANSKAR she have
and i can post some BABA and MPs quate which are belwo athe belt and humanility to any common human soul
read about asaram baba and his son .. now jail in rape case
these pople dont want society to know that there thoguh is same as rapist..
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BBC doc
there are serious lapses on documetray being made and how it got clearance which not as per procedure
yes india did wrong on baning but same time they have more info on same which made them sure that baning is on national intreset to ban it ..
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i stil happy this episode showing dirt we have in our mind ...

 

[WAR-rior]

Seems these guyz fugot that its not Pakistan where you need witness to proceed with conviction.

C'mon Pakistanis. Get off with this pathetic law for heavens sake.

 

[Mugwop]

you know thats a bogus excuse you are giving , if there are 100 members on this forum only 10 are the trouble makers , you need to take care of the trouble makers who are easily identifiable. Every 10 minutes 78 opens a rape thread on india is it not visible to you and the mods here and he has been doing it for the last one week , have the mods gone on some long vacation or something. To the contrary you come here on a genuine thread i started , give a -ve rating to one of my post which had nothing wrong & want me banned because you felt an itch after you saw my flags is it , TTs like you and syedji seem to have a problem with indians and don't seem to need a reason to show your bias against us , how many negative ratings you have given to 78 or zarvan in the past one week ? Shall i show you some of their posts here and show you the quality ?



Incorrect , you should have checked the dates , this article chapa in 2013 and conviction hua in 2014.

hearing of the case started in 2012 and ended in 2014






LOL why not ? should i have law degree to talk about it.

and every legal system in this world has some flaws , but it depends how big those flaws are.

i was trying to indicate this to your countrymen who start blabbering whenever there is a rape in pakistan without even understanding how weak their rape laws are. I was reading about hudood ordinances and i will read the women protection bill and give you my opinion on it to you later.





they have already maligned you and this thread has nothing to do with those spamming that your countrymen have been doing on that bbc documentary.

So you started this thread because you were mad at 78.What I don't understand is why are you ridiculing the the system in Pakistan when the crime took place in South Africa? I can give you over 100 examples that make indian laws look weak but I am not gonna stoop to your level.. I don't have a problem with all indians,I have a problem with sadistic hindu fundamentals who have a half baked superiority complex.. I didn't give those members you mentioned a negative rating but I have butted heads against them.See the thread about the "Alabama cops and the indian victim" 1 dude was trying to justify their actions and I butted heads with him. The reason I don't butt heads or engage in a discussion with sadists is because they are pugnacious their response is always about matching Pak/india failures. You on the other hand responded better than them so I'll consider taking the negative rating off.

The article proves that the 0 conviction law is bull.Some proceeding take long because few women lie and try to frame guys.When I was in Pakistan I saw a innocent guy who got framed by his girlfriend.In america Mike tyson got punished for a false accusation. I heard stories about india also but my point is you can't punish someone right away.Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

If you don't talk about it in a condescending way,Then I don't have a problem with it.

BBC can malign,fabricate,print,publish what they want but I will respond to their rhetoric with just 1 name "jimmy savile"

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BBC
they have legacy. but they have serious question too whcihc need ans .. as you said ..
--
Women .. society,, rape cases ..
true.. indian society.. still consider rape as end of day for girl but guy still come of and live normal life .. that sad story
but now things ar changing .. media ,, socety taking on radar .. for their own benefit but its on prime time
many here from top brass of society to bottom have view
like
why girl went our in night ..
why girl wear jean
why girl had male frined in night measn she is ..
what SANSKAR she have
and i can post some BABA and MPs quate which are belwo athe belt and humanility to any common human soul
read about asaram baba and his son .. now jail in rape case
these pople dont want society to know that there thoguh is same as rapist..
---
BBC doc
there are serious lapses on documetray being made and how it got clearance which not as per procedure
yes india did wrong on baning but same time they have more info on same which made them sure that baning is on national intreset to ban it ..
--
i stil happy this episode showing dirt we have in our mind ...

I was talking about women in general who don't live in the west.They feel that way.
I think they banned that documentary because it might be offensive.When someone equates crime and culture together than people take offense.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

So you started this thread because you were mad at 78.What I don't understand is why are you ridiculing the the system in Pakistan when the crime took place in South Africa? I can give you over 100 examples that make indian laws look weak but I am not gonna stoop to your level.. I don't have a problem with all indians,I have a problem with sadistic hindu fundamentals who have a half baked superiority complex.. I didn't give those members you mentioned a negative rating but I have butted heads against them.See the thread about the "Alabama cops and the indian victim" 1 dude was trying to justify their actions and I butted heads with him. The reason I don't butt heads or engage in a discussion with sadists is because they are pugnacious their response is always about matching Pak/india failures. You on the other hand responded better than them so I'll consider taking the negative rating off.

The article proves that the 0 conviction law is bull.Some proceeding take long because few women lie and try to frame guys.When I was in Pakistan I saw a innocent guy who got framed by his girlfriend.In america Mike tyson got punished for a false accusation. I heard stories about india also but my point is you can't punish someone right away.Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

If you don't talk about it in a condescending way,Then I don't have a problem with it.

BBC can malign,fabricate,print,publish what they want but I will respond to their rhetoric with just 1 name "jimmy savile"


I was talking about women in general who don't live in the west.They feel that way.
I think they banned that documentary because it might be offensive.When someone equates crime and culture together than people take offense.

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i dont know why it banned..
its like it was a knief (docu) now govt knows whether make of documentary was having intention of doctor to cure evil of society aka rape or dacoit who will threaned with same knief and burg (culture , image , ) and had some evil motive in mind ..
still it did good that ...
after nirbhaya case .. and all movment neither rape stopped not system was that strenghtn to take care of it ..
and people and media forgot
so it was nasty reminder

 

[Diggy]

So you started this thread because you were mad at 78.What I don't understand is why are you ridiculing the the system in Pakistan when the crime took place in South Africa? I can give you over 100 examples that make indian laws look weak but I am not gonna stoop to your level

LOL stoop to my level ? this was my first thread on rape and go check those threads started by that 78 guy , whenever he opens a rape thread on india its pakistanis who are the first to arrive for cheerleading as if their country is a symbol of womens rights , and whenever there is a rape incident in their own country or where their own people are involved response would 'oh these mfs are dead now' , 'hang them by their balls' blah blah bullshit as if it is really going to happen . Some people need to be shown the mirror so that they know what they are talking. Its not like i enjoy mocking someone's miseries or shortfalls , both india and pakistan are developing countries & are democratic hence our systems are slow and flawed in many ways i never said we are the pinnacle of justice deliverance.

By the way i have never opened a troll thread on terror attacks in pakistan , never trolled on threads related to terror attacks in pakistan , while you will find most of the pakistani members swarming threads on rape in india to give their expert opinions on indian culture to what not.

I don't have a problem with all indians,I have a problem with sadistic hindu fundamentals who have a half baked superiority complex.. I didn't give those members you mentioned a negative rating but I have butted heads against them.See the thread about the "Alabama cops and the indian victim" 1 dude was trying to justify their actions and I butted heads with him. The reason I don't butt heads or engage in a discussion with sadists is because they are pugnacious their response is always about matching Pak/india failures. You on the other hand responded better than them so I'll consider taking the negative rating off.

your problem with what you call a 'sadistic hindu fundamentalist' is something i can't really opiniate about since i still don't understand your psyche.

my only problem is that you use iron hand against indians even when there is no wrong doing from our side while go soft when there is absolute trolling from members of your own country and other countries like china , bd and sri lanka.

The article proves that the 0 conviction law is bull.Some proceeding take long because few women lie and try to frame guys.When I was in Pakistan I saw a innocent guy who got framed by his girlfriend.In america Mike tyson got punished for a false accusation. I heard stories about india also but my point is you can't punish someone right away.Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

i agree to that , laws can be misused and happens many times in western & euro countries including ours.

but laws which charge a women with adultery if she can't prove charges is wrong right ?

and i have not gone through the link you gave on some anti-rape measures , i am talking about the old laws you have.

If you don't talk about it in a condescending way,Then I don't have a problem with it.

why would i humiliate someone when there are probs in my own country , but if pakistani members here keep provoking us we need to show them some of their own facts to shut them up for a moment so that they give us some breathing space.

BBC can malign,fabricate,print,publish what they want but I will respond to their rhetoric with just 1 name "jimmy savile"
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ok


but before i end my argument with you i will have to show you a view of what you called 'central & south asia' section of your forum which apparently has become joke section due to the quality of discussions

check this out

Tell me is it so difficult to identify a troll , i just went to joke section and it was all visible there , and you act as if moderation is some real tough work.

I hope you checked the first four images , in a span of 10 minutes he opened 4 rape threads on india , did you care to go in there and give him any negative rating , did mods care to delete these unnecessary troll threads or ban this guy . This is a collection for the last 2 days and i had to filter some since i am allowed to post only 8 images (concentrated only on 78 while there are many more like samv , zarvan etc) . And you wanted me banned for opening one thread during my entire stay on this forum. Next time i hope you and syedji at-least make an effort to hide your hatred & bias towards indian members.

As i type this post samv opened another rape thread in joke section , sigh , RIP rules & regulations.


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fine thank you for taking that -ve rating back. Had not seen it before