Two Christians killed, churches burned: extremists respond to Florida Koran

[justanobserver]

Share the source first. No matter what the incident is, the source is doubtful.

I just copy-pasted what was written in the first page

Pakistan Christian Post

Hyderabad: March 23, 2011.(Barnabas Fund News) Two Christian men were shot dead in an attack on a Pakistan church by Muslim youths last night (Monday 21 March).

Father of four Yunis Ilyas (47), whose family is supported by a Barnabas Fund feeding programme, and newly-wed Jameel Masih (21) were killed on the spot during the incident at a church in Hoor Camp, Hyderabad. Two others were injured; one of them, Sadiq Masih, was transferred to a hospital in Karachi, where he is in a critical condition.

The incident started at around 6.30pm when Muslim youths began shouting vulgar abuse at Christians who were arriving for a prayer service at the church. The pastor and a number of other Christians remonstrated with the Muslim boys, but they continued insulting the Christian girls. The Muslim aggressors left the scene, but they returned shortly afterwards with pistols and fired at Christians as they were coming out of the church.

As for the link for Kerala, I used the same link as yours

The reason for the fire is not known.

St.Mary's Malankara Catholic church set on fire in Kerala? | Christian Persecution Update India

 

[mehru]

I'm not denying communal incidences occurring in India. But such incidences are quite rare in Kerala. A place which has 20-30% Christians, in the upper echelons of society, you really expect such an incident (if it were communal in nature) to go unnoticed ?

That is what can be said about this incident as well. How come the murder of Christians in Hyderabad went unnoticed? Hyderabad is a main city of Sindh.

 

[mehru]

Oh dear! Pakistan Christian post is as unreliable as Spero news. It report many such incidents which i don't find any where. I already mentioned that. It is a not a neutral site.

 

[justanobserver]

That is what can be said about this incident as well. How come the murder of Christians in Hyderabad went unnoticed? Hyderabad is a main city of Sindh.

Well Christians aren't a powerful minority there. AFAIK in Pakistan most of the lower rungs of the society are Christians mainly the sweepers.

In India Christians are a wealthy and well educated minority (main exception being the Tribals in Jharkhand-Orissa and North East, where communal incidents happen due to mindless proselytization )

 

[rockstarIN]

I have only reported the sources. You don't want to believe it then it's your problem. Keep denying.

Besides there is no proof either that two Christians were killed in response to Florida incident. Now i will do the same.

I do not know about the response of Florida incident.

And about the Kerala incident, it may hardly a short circuit, why Im saying this because there are more than 20 TV channels in Malayalam ( searching for breaking news).Nothing did come up with such magnitude. It is a very advanced society in term s of information and technology. You can't even hide a small such incident.

 

[khanz]

I really hate this stupid mob mentality and hypocrisy in pakistan this is why lack of education is such a big problem.Anytime something happens anywhere in the world mob gathers and kills innocent people in pak no respect for their own countrymen or anyone's property mobs should be shot and tear gassed only way they will learn is with an iron fist.
Mostly it's innocent minorities that suffer i rarely hear of these revenge incidents happening anywhere else mostly only in pakistan some people are so stupid i dunno what their logic is they are not guardians of islam just illiterate thugs and murderers.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Religious bigotry is just a common thing in Sth Asia and seems to have entrenched itself amongst all of its peoples. India with its various religions and sects of those religions and sub sects of those sects has enough bigotry to be shared amongst the globe a million times. Pakistan also has its fair share of extremism. The sad part is that such bigotry can never be condoned. The bigots are usually insecure people who have no real idea about the message behind their religion. They are in fact brothers-in arms of people like that Terry dude in the USA. They may call themselves Muslim or Christian or Hindu etc and believe that they are on a religious crusade to fight for their religion but the fact is that they are no more than insecure gangsters who refuse to conform and live within the expectations of an orderly society.

 

[Developereo]

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

Education, tolerance, etc. are all worthy, long term goals, but the reason these crimes happen, and the quickest way to fix the situation, is to beef up law enforcement. If every hot headed fool realizes they will be held accountable for their actions, they will cool off real quick.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Thats the same logic as the terrorists, " because pakistan supports the US i blew up a school bus"

If you are mad at Jones yell rant write even fly to the US and punch the guy in the nose.

To murder a person who has no connection to Jones and excuse it by saying oh but i was angry is barbarisim.

How hard is it to accept that it is not right to murder another human being just because you got angry.
Pointing the finger at some one else and saying but its his fault he made me angry is just bulshit.

A mature person takes responsibility for their own actions a child blames every thing on some one else.

im not saying im angry or other ppl are, i said there is not much education in Pakistan which is the cause of these kind of problems, people who are illiterate dont think its wrong or right, they just do it

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Thats the same logic as the terrorists, " because pakistan supports the US i blew up a school bus"

If you are mad at Jones yell rant write even fly to the US and punch the guy in the nose.

To murder a person who has no connection to Jones and excuse it by saying oh but i was angry is barbarisim.

How hard is it to accept that it is not right to murder another human being just because you got angry.
Pointing the finger at some one else and saying but its his fault he made me angry is just bulshit.

A mature person takes responsibility for their own actions a child blames every thing on some one else.

if ur so mature then tell why is usa killing millions of innocents?

 

[Frank Martin]

I think it is mentioned that only local sources reported it so yeah it's a possibility that many mainstream news sources missed this incident.

St.Mary's Malankara Catholic church set on fire in Kerala?

Fire at Poddiyatuvilla St Mary's church Kottarakara(Kerala): Fire was reported at the Poddiyatuvilla St Mary's Malankara Catholic Church on Wednesday morning(23rd March). The holy attire and other holy belongings were destroyed. The Fire Force and police reached the spot and put out the fire. The reason for the fire is not known.

St.Mary's Malankara Catholic church set on fire in Kerala? | Christian Persecution Update India

here is another link

St.Mary's Malankara Catholic church set on fire in Kerala?

Now before you claim authenticity again, i must tell you that even in our country many such incidences go unreported in mainstream media. For example only Pakistan Christian post report many such incidences which you will not find anywhere on the net.

By the way this link will help you to know about the condition of Indian Christians.
Christian Persecution Update India | Window to the persecuted and suffering Christian faith of India

Even i could dispute this reaction to Florida Quran burning considering that no local authority is reporting it and only Christian sites, spero news is reporting it. However i will not dismiss such claim like you and will certainly search for it.

Ok.Can you read it?where the hell it says that Hindu extremists torched the Church?lol what is the relation of a minor fire accident to the Original topic..in the news its clearly says that the reason is unknown..what could it be a short circuit that causes the fire?i am from Kerala, and i cant see that even in any Christian favoured channels not even says it except you lol..
So if a church caught fire then it is done by Hindus?get a life

 

[mehru]

Ok.Can you read it?where the hell it says that Hindu extremists torched the Church?lol what is the relation of a minor fire accident to the Original topic..in the news its clearly says that the reason is unknown..what could it be a short circuit that causes the fire?i am from Kerala, and i cant see that even in any Christian favoured channels not even says it except you lol..
So if a church caught fire then it is done by Hindus?get a life

Did i claim anything? I didn't suspect anyone. Neither i am reporting the incident. Just gave the source of the news. You could check it out yourself. If you say it didn't happen then i believe you.

Similarly coming to the original topic, i could claim the same. No local news source reported this incident. Our newspapers don't miss such news. So get a life yourself as well.

 

[mehru]

I really hate this stupid mob mentality and hypocrisy in pakistan this is why lack of education is such a big problem.Anytime something happens anywhere in the world mob gathers and kills innocent people in pak no respect for their own countrymen or anyone's property mobs should be shot and tear gassed only way they will learn is with an iron fist.
Mostly it's innocent minorities that suffer i rarely hear of these revenge incidents happening anywhere else mostly only in pakistan some people are so stupid i dunno what their logic is they are not guardians of islam just illiterate thugs and murderers.

Khanz! I don't deny these things do happen and i suspect that this incident perhaps has indeed occurred. Still i will ask you to wait for the confirmation before commenting on it.

 

[Frank Martin]

Did i claim anything? I didn't suspect anyone. Neither i am reporting the incident. Just gave the source of the news. You could check it out yourself.

Similarly coming to the original topic, i could claim the same. No local news source reported this incident. Our newspapers don't miss such news.

If you want then i can give you newes from our local media also..the problem is they have not given much importance to it.Its a total off topic and irrevelent, only a cheap shot excuse to what the main thread has discussed.

 

[mehru]

If you want then i can give you newes from our local media also..the problem is they have not given much importance to it.Its a total off topic and irrevelent, only a cheap shot excuse to what the main thread has discussed.

No need. It's your problem and your country. Similarly what happens to minorities in our country is our problem, our headache. I will very much appreciate if Indians stop posting thread about the minority issues of our country. Same advice goes to my countrymen.