TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

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imaginary issues like 'Islamophobia'.

During the last elections, there was a rumor that Obama is Hindu.
Angela Merkel and David Cameron complained about integrating Hindu communities.
Switzerland enacted a ban on Hindu temples.
France and Germany have disallowed the Hindu teeka on the forehead on school grounds.
The stereotypical villains in many Hollywood movies are Indian Hindus.
Politicians in Western Europe are making movies about the evils of the Mahabharata.
Europe is in an artificial frenzy over its alleged transformation into Eurindia.

Yup, Islamophobia is all imaginary.

 

[Roybot]

He could have just shot her, what was the need to behead her? and then people wonder why such crimes are given a religious angle

 

[SMC]

I think so too. Pakistanis in US are well integrated . Cases of them involving crimes is very rare. The credit also goes to US for giving them the opportunity to integrate unlike UK, were they seem marginalized .

Yes. There are generally no complains about Pakistanis in US any more than any other random ethnic group. If there are complains (shall we call it bigotry?), it's about the religion, not the nationality.

This guy is acting like an expert when in fact he has no idea what he's talking about.

 

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Wow, racism personified. The hundreds of thousands that live peacefully, pay taxes, support various humanitarian causes, win western countries world championship titles are not significant but the few that go to jails should be truly considered representable of Pakistanis.

This may be what INDIANS want others to believe since its not enough to have political issues, but your brand of Indians also want the people of the other side to suffer and be victims of hate crimes.

 

[SMC]

Wow, racism personified. The hundreds of thousands that live peacefully, pay taxes, support various humanitarian causes, win western countries world championship titles are not significant but the few that go to jails should be truly considered representable of Pakistanis.

This may be what INDIANS want others to believe since its not enough to have political issues, but your brand of Indians also want the people of the other side to suffer and be victims of hate crimes.

Yes, and I should repeat that only (some) Indians find this link and/or do the stereotyping. No one else.

 

[StingRoy]

He could have just shot her, what was the need to behead her? and then people wonder why such crimes are given a religious angle

Gourav, I don't think shooting anyone is any better than beheading... the fact is that such things are prevalent amongst a few knuckleheads and those who commit such crimes are justified a death penalty nonetheless.

 

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@Xeric,

Maybe you and SMC are right. I didn't account for the general lack of knowledge regarding world affairs/geography among the American public.

 

[SMC]

During the last elections, there was a rumor that Obama is Hindu.
Angela Merkel and David Cameron complained about integrating Hindu communities.
Switzerland enacted a ban on Hindu temples.
France and Germany have disallowed the Hindu teeka on the forehead on school grounds.
The stereotypical villains in many Hollywood movies are Indian Hindus.
Politicians in Western Europe are making movies about the evils of the Mahabharata.
Europe is in an artificial frenzy over its alleged transformation into Eurindia.

Yup, Islamophobia is all imaginary.

LOL. Looks like I missed that part. That's quite a big denial if there ever was. The fact that a murder carried out by a muslim gets about a million times more attention than one carried out by any other group (there are about 1,800 domestic violence homicides in the US each year) makes it bloody damn obvious that there is some form of biogtry going on.

 

[SMC]

@SMC

My apologies to 'tareymareymarzi', it was you who tried to trivialize terrorism wasn't it?

I was referring to murder in that thread, and in the context of that thread, the difference between murder and terrorism was irrelevant, as I said then several times in that thread. Don't misinterpret me please.

Make no mistake the Pakistani community has been in the limelight for all the wrong reasons recently. Americans, generally speaking, are 'geographically impaired' so I definitely see your point. And yes, things aren't as bad as they are in the UK, but as I said in my post to 'tareymarzi' a lot of these incidents are/have been traced back to Pakistan so perceptions are most certainly changing.

There's no issue of geographical impairment. They will at least remember the name of the country, if not it's location, if they want to. What they want to do is to use the action of a few muslims (in this case being ethnically Pakistani) to stereotype muslims. They are not interested in stereotyping just Pakistan, but muslims as a whole. They group all muslims into one group (again, the bigoted muslims) and then stereotype all muslims based on one person. Unfortunately, you seem to be using such bigotry against us as a way to try intimidate us, if not make fun of us at least.

 

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LOL. Looks like I missed that part. That's quite a big denial if there ever was. The fact that a murder carried out by a muslim gets about a million times more attention than one carried out by any other group (there are about 1,800 domestic violence homicides in the US each year) makes it bloody damn obvious that there is some form of biogtry going on.

It would've been bigotry if I was trying to blow a simple domestic homicide into something more sinister.

He (ironically enough) ran a channel to combat 'negative perceptions' about Islam. He BEHEADED his wife.

Try and tell me there isn't a religious angle there.

 

[Roybot]

Gourav, I don't think shooting anyone is any better than beheading... the fact is that such things are prevalent amongst a few knuckleheads and those who commit such crimes are justified a death penalty nonetheless.

I was not saying if its better or not, I was just trying to point out that maybe"beheading" is the reason why people try to give a religious angle to such crimes.

Agreed Islamophobia exists, but maybe its not as irrational as everyone thinks it is?

 

[SMC]

The beheading angle makes it look worse, but nevertheless, even if it was murder carried out using a weapon such as gun, there's no doubt it would receive more coverage than a homicide carried out by a non-muslim. Fact of the matter is many people in the west want to hear this stuff, and it makes good news in the west. That's not considering that fact that shooting doesn't make any significant difference than beheading.

 

[Roybot]

The beheading angle makes it look worse, but nevertheless, even if it was murder carried out using a weapon such as gun, there's no doubt it would receive more coverage than a homicide carried out by a non-muslim. Fact of the matter is many people in the west want to hear this stuff, and it makes good news in the west.

Its not just that. Muzammil Hassan used to run Bridges TV, which used to show the good sides of Muslims, so he was already at loggerheads with the anti-multiculturists/racists. These anti-multiculturists have now got something big against the very guy who was showing the positive image of Islam to the world. So thats probably why you see so much media coverage and discussions on all sorts of forums on the internet.

 

[SMC]

Its not just that. Muzammil Hassan used to run Bridges TV, which used to show the good sides of Muslims, so he was already at loggerheads with the anti-multiculturists/racists. These anti-multiculturists have now got something big against the very guy who was showing the positive image of Islam to the world. So thats probably why you see so much media coverage and discussions on all sorts of forums on the internet.

But these anti-multiculturists or whatever are not running the news channels. I mean I saw this as the 2nd top news on BBC website. Surely there are more important things to cover, and if they want to cover this story, they should at least mention any other random domestic violence homicide in western countries on their website. It doesn't have to be the 2nd top news.

 

[Spitfighter]

During the last elections, there was a rumor that Obama is Hindu.

His name has Hussein in it, not that it stopped him from winning by a landslide.

Angela Merkel and David Cameron complained about integrating Hindu communities.

And this is because they're 'Islamophobic'? There are no real issues, they're just plain ol racist?

Switzerland enacted a ban on Hindu temples.

The whole country, in their largest cities? I see your point, but fortunately there are institutionalized mechanisms in place to combat intolerance. They're going to take it to court.

France and Germany have disallowed the Hindu teeka on the forehead on school grounds.

How is that a problem? So has turkey.

The stereotypical villains in many Hollywood movies are Indian Hindus.

Lol. Too much of an exaggeration there.

Politicians in Western Europe are making movies about the evils of the Mahabharata.

Politician or politicians?

Europe is in an artificial frenzy over its alleged transformation into Eurindia.

You're talking as if they're saying a Muslim's life is worth only half as much as a Christian. Oh wait a minute. That's already happened, and it ain't in Europe. There's so much more.

Yup, Islamophobia is all imaginary.

People are 'concerned' and rightly so. Look at how things are in Pakistan, Afghanistan and even in the UK for that matter.

Political Islam is a problem, there's no two ways around it. Now I'm sure you're thinking I'm a racist bigot. Of course. But if I was Turkish you'd be all praises and call me your brother.