Turns out the "Aryan" invaded Europe :D

[Kashmiri Pandit]

There was no Aryan invasion to India, maybe some migration did take place, ''Aryans'' also didn't destroy Indus Valley civilisation(it was the severe change in weather and drying up of river/s?), these lies were spread by some racist British colonists to divide and rule in South Asia.

Also If I'm not wrong Arya has nothing to do with ethnicity but for a title for religious or noble people? @Kashmiri Pandit

Yup .

Migration always happen . No one can deny that .
Human migration towards newly built civilizations is possible .
Yup . Climate change or Natural events are more acceptable than invading forces .

Only proof of ( Oldest ) an invading force in South Asia happens in 600-500 BCE ( ie 1000 years later ) when Cyrus or Dyus occupied the Ghandrava territories of Afghanistan . Only 300 years later under Alexander , Outside forces were able to penetrate into Punjab . After which it continued till Independence .

Exactly . It was more like a self designation among Ancient North Indians , Pakistanis and Persians .
It mostly meant Noble .

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Indians are Dravidians. Most of these so called Aryans are ancestors of modern day Pakistanis, and that's why the Dravids hate us so much There's a rivalry going back thousands of years.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Indians are Dravidians. Most of these so called Aryans are ancestors of modern day Pakistanis, and that's why the Dravids hate us so much There's a rivalry going back thousands of years.

I hope you know Pakistanis also carries the indigenous elements which becomes absent when you hit Iran, western Afg, albit the frequency increases as you go down south, but it's one of the main elements that makes someone a South Asian. Dravidians is a language group, most of India isnt that.

The animosity between Pakistan and India has nothing to do with that. What type of retarded thinking is that? Much of the Indian subcontinent had rivalry, or alliances, or indifferent.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Indians are Dravidians. Most of these so called Aryans are ancestors of modern day Pakistanis, and that's why the Dravids hate us so much There's a rivalry going back thousands of years.

Just like there are Sindhis , Bloachs , Punjabis , Mirpuris , Pashtuns in Pakistan .
We in India are made up of various kinds of people .

By Calling Indians Dravidian Your sole aim is to make the thread a bit feisty isn't it

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I hope you know Pakistanis also carries the indigenous elements which becomes absent when you hit Iran, western Afg, albit the frequency increases as you go down south, but it's one of the main elements that makes someone a South Asian. Dravidians is a language group, most of India isnt that.

The animosity between Pakistan and India has nothing to do with that. What type of retarded thinking is that? Much of the Indian subcontinent had rivalry, or alliances, or indifferent.

Indians are a docile Dravidian people. You guys look like you carry purses for your mothers.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Indians are a docile Dravidian people. You guys look like you carry purses for your mothers.

Great, we have a internet tough guy here.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Great, we have a internet tough guy here.

That looks like a fair skinned version of you.

 

[kempe]

In any case, Sanskrit language was proven to be brought from outside of India into India.

Can you please provide the proof or any references/sources ??
How come the people in central asia (Caspian and Aral Sea) forget sanskrit as they brought it to India?

 

[Pakistani E]

There was no Aryan invasion to India, maybe some migration did take place, ''Aryans'' also didn't destroy Indus Valley civilisation(it was the severe change in weather and drying up of river/s?), these lies were spread by some racist British colonists to divide and rule in South Asia.

Also If I'm not wrong Arya has nothing to do with ethnicity but for a title for religious or noble people? @Kashmiri Pandit

There was no single "Aryan" invasion I agree, but there were successive waves of Indo-"Aryan/Iranic" or whatever you want to call them, migrations in to what is now Pakistan and India. Genetics doesn't lie!

Explain this:

 

[Water Car Engineer]

That looks like a fair skinned version of you.

That's you buddy. Internet tough guy.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

That's you buddy. Internet tough guy.

Ok...

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

There was no single "Aryan" invasion I agree, but there were successive waves of Indo-"Aryan/Iranic" or whatever you want to call them, migrations in to what is now Pakistan and India. Genetics doesn't lie!

I agree with the rest of your post.

Then an important question arises .

IVC was not a civilization of Warriors . Then why didn't any invasion happened between 3300-1900 BCE when Ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamian were at the top of the civilization and were more War oriented than IVC . Why only after IVC's extinction , These Aryans came and invaded empty lands

In 1400 BCE , What were Ancient Aryan Tribes doing in Syria , when they were supposed to be developing and teaching Vedas to the People of subcontinent

 

[Pakistani E]

Then an important question rises .

IVC was not a civilization of Warriors . Then why didn't any invasion happened between 3300-1900 BCE when Ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamian were at the top of the civilization and were more War oriented than IVC . Why only after IVC's extinction , These Aryans came and invaded empty lands

What were Ancient Aryan Tribes doing in Syria , when they were supposed to be developing and teaching Vedas to the People of subcontinent

The IVC didn't speak Sanskrit or an Indo European Language. I don't subscribe to a big tribe of "Aryans" invading. I do believe there was a steady stream of migration by Indo European speaking people in to this area, which later morphed in to Sanskrit.

As for what the Aryans were doing in Syria or whatever, well like I said, they weren't one big tribe of people. They were a collection of tribes that migrated everywhere. It's not very far fetched to believe that a part of the Indo-Europeans migrated in to the Subcontinent, while the others took their own routes.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

The IVC didn't speak Sanskrit or an Indo European Language. I don't subscribe to a big tribe of "Aryans" invading. I do believe there was a steady stream of migration by Indo European speaking people in to this area, which later morphed in to Sanskrit.

As for what the Aryans were doing in Syria or whatever, well like I said, they weren't one big tribe of people. They were a collection of tribes that migrated everywhere. It's not very far fetched to believe that a part of the Indo-European migrated in to the Subcontinent, while the others took their own routes.

Yup Yup I was mentioning them in previous comment .
From their invasion/migration to development of Vedas it took over 500 years . So Vedic sanskrit came into existence many centuries later .
Now what happened to Indigenous people of IVC ? Were they erased , were they displaced ?
If IVC got extinct due to natural reasons , then where did this forced people to migrate ?

Did Aryans migrated at the end or after the end of civilization ?

So many questions not answered by the AMT .

 

[Water Car Engineer]

A migration(s) did happen from the steppes, into Europe, M.E., Subcontinent, Egypt, etc. The advantage of the chariot, and later when the breed of horses were strong enough to handle a single human each was, in my opinion, substantial. They were covering a lot of ground, plus the competition within the different tribes continually pushed them outside the steppes. In a blitzkrieg type of fashion.