Turkiye has started the warning bombardment to Syria
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@Blackeagle... wow, thought you were an arab nationalist 
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Turkey's military struck targets inside Syria on Wednesday in response to a mortar bomb fired from Syrian territory which killed five Turkish civilians, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's office said in a statement.
"Our armed forces in the border region responded immediately to this abominable attack in line with their rules of engagement; targets were struck through artillery fire against places in Syria identified by radar," the statement said.
"Turkey will never leave unanswered such kinds of provocation by the Syrian regime against our national security," it added.
There were no immediate details of the Turkish strikes against Syria, nor was it clear who had fired the mortar into Turkish territory.
Davutoğlu had also agreed with NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen on the need for an emergency meeting of NATO members, the statement said.
A mortar bomb fired from Syria landed in a residential district of the southeastern Turkish town of Akçakale on Wednesday, killing a woman and four children from the same family and wounding at least 13 other people.
A cloud of dust and smoke rose up over low-rise buildings as residents ran to help the wounded. Others, infuriated by the increasing spillover of violence from Syria's civil war, took to the streets shouting protests against the local authorities.
Davutoğlu phoned UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to brief him about the incident and also spoke with senior military officials and Syria crisis mediator Lakhdar Brahimi, his ministry said in a statement.
Davutoğlu signaled over the weekend that Turkey would take action if there was a repeat of a mortar strike which damaged homes and workplaces in Akçakale last Friday.
"It (latest mortar round) hit right in the middle of the neighbourhood. The wife and four children from the same family died," Ahmet Emin Meşhurgül, local head of the Turkish Red Crescent, told Reuters, adding he knew the victims personally.
"People here are anxious, because we got hit before. Security forces tried to convince people to empty the neighbourhood near the border, but now we've been hit right in the middle of the town," he said.
A Reuters witness saw three police officers among the wounded being taken to hospital.
Erdoğan long cultivated good relations with Assad but became a harsh critic after Syria's popular revolt began last year, accusing him of creating a "terrorist state". Erdoğan has allowed Syrian opposition fighters to organize on Turkish soil and pushed for a foreign-protected safe zone inside Syria.
The Obama administration said it is "outraged" by the Syrian mortar shell. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the US is consulting its NATO ally on what she termed a "very dangerous situation."
She plans to speak to her Turkish counterpart later on Wednesday.
Speaking in Washington, Clinton said Syria's leaders were causing untold suffering to their own people, driven solely by their desire to cling to power.
Rasmussen told Davutoğlu in a phone conversation on Wednesday that he strongly condemned the mortar strike from Syria, a NATO spokeswoman said.
The spokeswoman said NATO continued to follow developments in the region "closely and with great concern".
Davutoğlu earlier had contacted Rasmussen, who has said repeatedly that NATO has no intention of intervening in Syria but stood ready to defend NATO member Turkey, if necessary.
In Belgium, NATO's National Atlantic Council, which is composed of the national ambassadors, held an emergency meeting in Brussels on Wednesday night at Turkey's request to discuss the cross-border incident. NATO also held an emergency meeting when a Turkish jet was shot down by Syria in June.
A NATO official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of NATO rules, said the meeting in Brussels was being held under a treaty article that states "the parties will consult whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any of the parties is threatened."
Turkey, a NATO ally, is anxious to avoid going into Syria on its own. It has been pushing for international intervention in the form of a safe zone, which would likely entail foreign security forces on the ground and a partial no-fly zone.
However, the allies fear military intervention in Syria could ignite a wider conflict, and few observers expect robust action from the United States, which Turkey views as vital to any operation in Syria, ahead of the presidential election in November.
NATO demanded an immediate halt to "aggressive acts" against alliance member Turkey after the mortar strike from Syria.
The shelling "constitutes a cause of greatest concern for, and is strongly condemned by, all allies", NATO ambassadors said in a statement, after they held a rare late-night meeting at Turkey's request to discuss the incident.
"The alliance continues to stand by Turkey and demands the immediate cessation of such aggressive acts against an ally, and urges the Syrian regime to put an end to flagrant violations of international law," the statement said.
"This latest incident is the last straw. Turkey is a sovereign country. There was an attack on its territory. There must certainly be a response in international law. ... I hope this is Syria's last craziness. Syria will be called into account," said Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç.
"There must be a response to this under international law," he said, according to Turkey's Cihan news agency.
UN spokesman Martin Nesirky told reporters that Ban spoke with Davutoğlu and "encouraged the minister to keep open all channels of communications with the Syrian authorities with a view to lessening any tension that could build up as a result of the incident."
That statement was issued before Turkey's announcement that it had struck targets inside Syria.
In a second statement issued shortly after Turkey's announcement, Ban urged the Syrian government to respect the territorial integrity of its neighbors and warned that the 18-month-long conflict in Syria was increasingly harming other countries in the region.
"The Secretary-General calls on the Syria Government to respect fully the territorial integrity of its neighbors as well as to end the violence against the Syrian people," Ban's press office said in a statement.
"Today's incidents, where firing from Syria struck a Turkish town, again demonstrated how Syria's conflict is threatening not only the security of the Syrian people but increasingly causing harm to its neighbors," it said.
The statement called on all sides in the Syrian conflict to work towards peaceful resolution of the crisis.
Asked about the incident on the Turkish-Syrian border, Lyall Grant told reporters: "It's very worrying, and it was raised and discussed briefly in the council this afternoon."
He added that the council was now awaiting a letter from Turkey on the incident before it considered possible moves.
The 15-member council was already in a meeting to discuss other issues when Turkey announced it had struck targets in Syria. It is the most serious cross-border escalation of the Syria uprising, which began as peaceful pro-democracy protests.
When asked if the Security Council would get involved, US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told reporters: "We'll wait to see."
The council has been deadlocked on the Syria for more than a year. Russia, a staunch ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and China have vetoed three resolutions condemning Assad's government and rejected the idea of imposing sanctions.
Gunfire straying over border
Syria's worsening bloodshed has increasingly affected border zones, with stray bullets flying into Turkish territory.
"Over the last 20 to 25 days there have been very heavy clashes on the Syrian side. We have felt the effects of these in Akçakale," Labor Minister Faruk Çelik, an MP for the province where Akçakale is located, told parliament.
In April, Turkey reported an incident to the United Nations in which at least five people, including two Turkish officials, were wounded when cross-border gunfire struck a Syrian refugee camp in Kilis, further west along the frontier.
Turkey beefed up its troop presence and air defences along its 900-km (560-mile) border after Syria shot down a Turkish reconnaissance jet in June. But residents in Akcakale said there was still not enough security.
"People here are rising up, there is no security. People were chanting for the local governors to resign," local resident İbrahim Halil Arslan told CNN Turk television.
"Everybody here is so anxious. We keep our children locked at home, and we are trying to live under this psychological pressure," he said.
Washington sees Turkey as the pivotal player in backing Syria's opposition and planning for the post-Assad era. But Ankara has found itself increasingly isolated and frustrated by a lack of international consensus on how to end the conflict.
Turkey is also sheltering more than 90,000 refugees from Syria and fears a mass influx similar to the flight of half a million Iraqi Kurds into Turkey after the 1991 Gulf War.
source:Turkey strikes targets in Syria after mortar attack
It's only natural to respond to mortar attacks, it's important to get rid of any mortar/artillery installation that aims in the general direction of Turkey. Especially if it's close to the border, and can hit Turkey.
We are not interested in war, and I hope we can avoid that. But I also hope that any miss fire that hits turkey result in retaliation 10x as harsh. be it FSA or Assads forces doesn't matter. Those fuckers should stay away from the Turkish border!
"Our armed forces in the border region responded immediately to this abominable attack in line with their rules of engagement; targets were struck through artillery fire against places in Syria identified by radar," the statement said.
"Turkey will never leave unanswered such kinds of provocation by the Syrian regime against our national security," it added.
There were no immediate details of the Turkish strikes against Syria, nor was it clear who had fired the mortar into Turkish territory.
Davutoğlu had also agreed with NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen on the need for an emergency meeting of NATO members, the statement said.
A mortar bomb fired from Syria landed in a residential district of the southeastern Turkish town of Akçakale on Wednesday, killing a woman and four children from the same family and wounding at least 13 other people.
A cloud of dust and smoke rose up over low-rise buildings as residents ran to help the wounded. Others, infuriated by the increasing spillover of violence from Syria's civil war, took to the streets shouting protests against the local authorities.
Davutoğlu phoned UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to brief him about the incident and also spoke with senior military officials and Syria crisis mediator Lakhdar Brahimi, his ministry said in a statement.
Davutoğlu signaled over the weekend that Turkey would take action if there was a repeat of a mortar strike which damaged homes and workplaces in Akçakale last Friday.
"It (latest mortar round) hit right in the middle of the neighbourhood. The wife and four children from the same family died," Ahmet Emin Meşhurgül, local head of the Turkish Red Crescent, told Reuters, adding he knew the victims personally.
"People here are anxious, because we got hit before. Security forces tried to convince people to empty the neighbourhood near the border, but now we've been hit right in the middle of the town," he said.
A Reuters witness saw three police officers among the wounded being taken to hospital.
Erdoğan long cultivated good relations with Assad but became a harsh critic after Syria's popular revolt began last year, accusing him of creating a "terrorist state". Erdoğan has allowed Syrian opposition fighters to organize on Turkish soil and pushed for a foreign-protected safe zone inside Syria.
The Obama administration said it is "outraged" by the Syrian mortar shell. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the US is consulting its NATO ally on what she termed a "very dangerous situation."
She plans to speak to her Turkish counterpart later on Wednesday.
Speaking in Washington, Clinton said Syria's leaders were causing untold suffering to their own people, driven solely by their desire to cling to power.
Rasmussen told Davutoğlu in a phone conversation on Wednesday that he strongly condemned the mortar strike from Syria, a NATO spokeswoman said.
The spokeswoman said NATO continued to follow developments in the region "closely and with great concern".
Davutoğlu earlier had contacted Rasmussen, who has said repeatedly that NATO has no intention of intervening in Syria but stood ready to defend NATO member Turkey, if necessary.
In Belgium, NATO's National Atlantic Council, which is composed of the national ambassadors, held an emergency meeting in Brussels on Wednesday night at Turkey's request to discuss the cross-border incident. NATO also held an emergency meeting when a Turkish jet was shot down by Syria in June.
A NATO official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of NATO rules, said the meeting in Brussels was being held under a treaty article that states "the parties will consult whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any of the parties is threatened."
Turkey, a NATO ally, is anxious to avoid going into Syria on its own. It has been pushing for international intervention in the form of a safe zone, which would likely entail foreign security forces on the ground and a partial no-fly zone.
However, the allies fear military intervention in Syria could ignite a wider conflict, and few observers expect robust action from the United States, which Turkey views as vital to any operation in Syria, ahead of the presidential election in November.
NATO demanded an immediate halt to "aggressive acts" against alliance member Turkey after the mortar strike from Syria.
The shelling "constitutes a cause of greatest concern for, and is strongly condemned by, all allies", NATO ambassadors said in a statement, after they held a rare late-night meeting at Turkey's request to discuss the incident.
"The alliance continues to stand by Turkey and demands the immediate cessation of such aggressive acts against an ally, and urges the Syrian regime to put an end to flagrant violations of international law," the statement said.
"This latest incident is the last straw. Turkey is a sovereign country. There was an attack on its territory. There must certainly be a response in international law. ... I hope this is Syria's last craziness. Syria will be called into account," said Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç.
"There must be a response to this under international law," he said, according to Turkey's Cihan news agency.
UN spokesman Martin Nesirky told reporters that Ban spoke with Davutoğlu and "encouraged the minister to keep open all channels of communications with the Syrian authorities with a view to lessening any tension that could build up as a result of the incident."
That statement was issued before Turkey's announcement that it had struck targets inside Syria.
In a second statement issued shortly after Turkey's announcement, Ban urged the Syrian government to respect the territorial integrity of its neighbors and warned that the 18-month-long conflict in Syria was increasingly harming other countries in the region.
"The Secretary-General calls on the Syria Government to respect fully the territorial integrity of its neighbors as well as to end the violence against the Syrian people," Ban's press office said in a statement.
"Today's incidents, where firing from Syria struck a Turkish town, again demonstrated how Syria's conflict is threatening not only the security of the Syrian people but increasingly causing harm to its neighbors," it said.
The statement called on all sides in the Syrian conflict to work towards peaceful resolution of the crisis.
Asked about the incident on the Turkish-Syrian border, Lyall Grant told reporters: "It's very worrying, and it was raised and discussed briefly in the council this afternoon."
He added that the council was now awaiting a letter from Turkey on the incident before it considered possible moves.
The 15-member council was already in a meeting to discuss other issues when Turkey announced it had struck targets in Syria. It is the most serious cross-border escalation of the Syria uprising, which began as peaceful pro-democracy protests.
When asked if the Security Council would get involved, US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told reporters: "We'll wait to see."
The council has been deadlocked on the Syria for more than a year. Russia, a staunch ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and China have vetoed three resolutions condemning Assad's government and rejected the idea of imposing sanctions.
Gunfire straying over border
Syria's worsening bloodshed has increasingly affected border zones, with stray bullets flying into Turkish territory.
"Over the last 20 to 25 days there have been very heavy clashes on the Syrian side. We have felt the effects of these in Akçakale," Labor Minister Faruk Çelik, an MP for the province where Akçakale is located, told parliament.
In April, Turkey reported an incident to the United Nations in which at least five people, including two Turkish officials, were wounded when cross-border gunfire struck a Syrian refugee camp in Kilis, further west along the frontier.
Turkey beefed up its troop presence and air defences along its 900-km (560-mile) border after Syria shot down a Turkish reconnaissance jet in June. But residents in Akcakale said there was still not enough security.
"People here are rising up, there is no security. People were chanting for the local governors to resign," local resident İbrahim Halil Arslan told CNN Turk television.
"Everybody here is so anxious. We keep our children locked at home, and we are trying to live under this psychological pressure," he said.
Washington sees Turkey as the pivotal player in backing Syria's opposition and planning for the post-Assad era. But Ankara has found itself increasingly isolated and frustrated by a lack of international consensus on how to end the conflict.
Turkey is also sheltering more than 90,000 refugees from Syria and fears a mass influx similar to the flight of half a million Iraqi Kurds into Turkey after the 1991 Gulf War.
source:Turkey strikes targets in Syria after mortar attack
It's only natural to respond to mortar attacks, it's important to get rid of any mortar/artillery installation that aims in the general direction of Turkey. Especially if it's close to the border, and can hit Turkey.
We are not interested in war, and I hope we can avoid that. But I also hope that any miss fire that hits turkey result in retaliation 10x as harsh. be it FSA or Assads forces doesn't matter. Those fuckers should stay away from the Turkish border!
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It would be nice if you had criticized your government's stance on Syria too.
Yesterday,Erdogan officially declared that Turkey is helping FSA politically,militarily and also funding them.
Don't you think your government is fueling the situation even more?Who gave FSA rocket launchers,mortars,heavy guns and other equipment?
Turkey is exactly playing the game that Arab countries want it to do,there is no interest for Turkey in Syrian crisis,whether Assad stays or go,Turkey may lose the much,if he goes,Arab countries win,if he stays,Iran wins.You are not acting upon your interests.
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when he declared we are helping militarily? you hear that from press tv?
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Mandate which let Turkish army to enter the Syria(If needed) is ready at present. It will be bringed on table for approval of MPs in TBMM tomorow at 10:00lt...
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@Blackeagle... wow, thought you were an arab nationalist
Yes, I am, that's why I would do whatever it takes to defend my beloved Syrian people from Iranian proxies or shall I say (traitors), Turkey has never been but a reliable friend in this conflict. Being an Arab nationalist doesn't mean to side with a traitor who killed and harmed Arabs more than their enemies.
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This is golden opportunity for Turkey to level Syrian Bases. If turkey does not up the ante after losing five of its citizens, it will appear weak and lose credibility.
Take Assad Forces out Turkey, Pakistan is with you.
Take Assad Forces out Turkey, Pakistan is with you.
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I will not enter that argument, if turkey has supplied FSA or not. Iran has been supplying Assad with weapons as well. And it could just as well have been Iranian mortar that struck Turkey.
What's important is that anyone who does gets punished regardless of who they are!
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Hope this will quicken the fall of murderous Assad regime
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Are you sure ? Turkish industry, especially construction industry (in top-3 in World) also work as an army to boost the economy and They are waiting to re-construct the new Syria After Assad "retired". They did it in Irak and they will do it in Syria as well..
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That was the worst example one could bring.Iran was selling weapons to Syria from more than 15 years ago,not after it fell in to a crisis.There is a very huge difference here.
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