Turkish Unmanned Vehicle Programs

[-SINAN-]

So yeah apparantly there are 2 version of Karayel. I came across this:

It has better payload capacity then Bayraktar TB2

 

[BordoEnes]

I cant believe nobody pointed out the fact these systems not only met the requirements, but completely exceeded them by further developing and maturing their platforms. Caldiran can already be classified as a MALE (Initialy a tactical UAV) and the Karayel is getting there aswell.

SSM requirements where:
flying at 18000 feet, 10hours endurance and >35kg payload

I mean the initial Caldiran specs were:
Wing Span: 9 m
Length: 5.5 m
Cruise Speed: 100 Knots
Endurance: 14 Hours
Flight Range: 1500 Km
Communication Range: 150 Km
Operational Altitude: 22,500 Feet
Payload: 50 kg

Newer Caldiran specs:
Wing Span: 12 m
Length: 6.5 m
Cruise Speed: 70 Knots (yeah this one kinda didnt get better)
Endurance: 24+ Hours
Flight Range: ?
Communication Range: 150 Km
Operational Altitude: 24,000 Feet
Payload: 55 kg

Karayel specs have been previously posted.

 

[FutureMe]

I like the idea of having many developers for any given platform but we should see some difference in the capacities of their products. Like how is this Karayel going to be useful. It is meant to be used on navy ships, but how?

 

[BordoEnes]

I like the idea of having many developers for any given platform but we should see some difference in the capacities of their products. Like how is this Karayel going to be useful. It is meant to be used on navy ships, but how?

Catapult launched. Similair to US Navy's Scan eagle

 

[FutureMe]

Both Bayraktar and Karayel uses the same Rotax engine with some modifications. So there shouldn't be a remarkable difference in their speed and payload capacity. It only depends on configuration preferences and platform requirements. And there is some room for performance gain due to airframe design streamlining, surely, but margianlly.

What makes me think is how is Karayel going to be usefull when used on a ship?

Catapult launch can work, but parachute recovery may mean a big likelyhood of losing the vehicle.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Turkey To Outfit Drones with Local Mini Rocket
By Burak Ege Bekdil
May 17, 2015

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey will outfit its locally-built drones with a new mini laser-guided rocket, the Bozok.

Officials said they plan serial production of the Bozok soon. The rocket was designed and developed by Tubitak SAGE, a government-controlled defense industry research and development institute.

"With this program we aim to earn our drones attack capabilities," Turkish Science, Industry and Technology Minister Fikri Isik told reporters. "The Bozok is an ideal solution especially in asymmetrical war."

The 79-centimeter Bozok ("white arrow" in Turkish) weighs 16 kilograms. It can hit targets at a maximum distance of six kilometers.

Procurement officials say the Bozok can be an ideal attack asset for the Anka S, Turkey's first indigenous drone, built by Tusas Turkish Aerospace Industries. Tusas plans to move forward to serial production phase of the program.

Turkey To Outfit Drones with Local Mini Rocket

 

[FutureMe]

There is a need to develop a platform that can fly like a plane and land like a helicopter.

 

[atatwolf]

 

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Both Bayraktar and Karayel uses the same Rotax engine with some modifications. So there shouldn't be a remarkable difference in their speed and payload capacity. It only depends on configuration preferences and platform requirements. And there is some room for performance gain due to airframe design streamlining, surely, but margianlly.

What makes me think is how is Karayel going to be usefull when used on a ship?

Catapult launch can work, but parachute recovery may mean a big likelyhood of losing the vehicle.

...

Sallama Recep.

www.ulpower.com

 

[FutureMe]

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Sallama Recep.

www.ulpower.com

Dude, behave, will you!

Check out the specs in the previous posts and see that none of the designs use an 80hp engine.

 

[-SINAN-]

@Hakan Please, a little bit more strict moderation please....forum turning into a sandbox...

 

[Mert_Ank]

So yeah apparantly there are 2 version of Karayel. I came across this (I actually knew this shitt but i totally forgat about it):

Endurance : 20 hours
Service Ceiling :22500 feet
FLIR: L3 - MX-15D (51.4 kg)
LOS : 210 km successfully tested
Armament : SAGE and/or Roketsan
Catapult : Zor dostum
Length: 6.5 mt
Wingspan : 10,5 mt
Weight 500 kg

 

[BordoEnes]

There is a need to develop a platform that can fly like a plane and land like a helicopter.

You mean something along the lines of Fire scout? Because AFAIK there is an ongoing program to develop something similair to that.

Fire scout

 

[bedbin]

what i dont undestand is whats the difference between anka and bayraktar, they have same the features? being heavier makes it better or smthn?

 

[Mert_Ank]

what i dont undestand is whats the difference between anka and bayraktar, they have same the features?

: ) Ask to KUL he is really good at this one